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co-host dr. G is your guest tonight is
the holistic explorer Arianna joy
Arianna welcome to hxp thank you for
having me I’m honored to be here so you
have a highly intriguing story I know
that you suffered with chronic pain for
a long time as a child you were
diagnosed with Lyme disease you realized
that Western medicine couldn’t really
help you so let’s get into that let’s
share your story yeah it’s it’s been
quite a journey to say the least so I am
almost 20 50 I’ll be 25 next month and
when I was about 13 my parents kind of
started realizing that there was
something a little off about me and in
terms of my health I’d always kind of
been a sickly child not very strong
didn’t have a lot of vitality got a lot
of random you know ear infections sinus
infections just weak immune system
overall they’re very like lethargic
tired a lot i would get headaches and
then around 12 or 13 things just really
started to get worse and i started
having really bad digestive issues and
around the time my period came on
problems with that and around that time
i started having really severe muscle
pain to like just all over my body my
body would just be in pain constantly
and it was painful to do anything for
too long of a period of time if i was
laying down for too long it would hurt
if I was standing sitting walking you
name it it was very painful just to be
in my body and so my mom
is my biggest advocate and it might you
know such an angel to me and that she
started looking for answers for me and
she started with the conventional
Western medicine route which is what she
was taught and so we started by going to
our family practitioner and you know
they just thought I was depressed and
put me on antidepressants and then over
the course of the next two years or so
we visited a number of different
specialists and nobody really had any
answers it was always just kind of like
whatever field of specialty they were in
like yeah my symptoms kind of match to
that so that yeah okay you know go to
the rheumatologist and yeah you have
rheumatoid arthritis or lupus or early
stage ms or it’s all in my head and I’m
just making it up looking for attention
just go see a psychiatrist and it got um
a little you know it kind of broke me
down I just going through all of that
and I started to question myself like am
I am I crazy am I just making it up i
don’t i don’t know and and then when i
was 16 through a series of fortunate
events i was brought to an acupuncturist
who is what the one who diagnosed me
diagnosed me with lyme disease and based
on my symptoms and where I had lived and
everything just lined up to I was about
five years old when I contracted it is
what this acupuncturist told me and I
had thought that having a diagnosis was
gonna be the answer you know just give
me a diagnosis and I’ll take a pill and
I’ll be fine because that’s was the the
world view that I grew up with around
medicine and healing was you know trust
trust your doctor and they know and and
they’ll just give you pharmaceutical and
you’ll be fine tomorrow right and the
little did I know that Lyme disease is
one of the most controversial diseases
out there today and there hasn’t been a
lot of research done on it and what
research has been done is very
controversial and what the doctors say
and what the patients say is oftentimes
not in the line
and so from 16 up until about 21 I went
back and forth with the number of
different doctors again just trying to
get an even official diagnosis from a
medical doctor because the test that the
acupuncturist had run didn’t weren’t FDA
approved and so the medical doctors
wouldn’t even look at the paperwork and
so that was a whole experience in and of
itself and I can remember I was about 18
and I had met a doctor he was actually a
do so he was a little bit more holistic
and he looked at the blood tests and
everything and he was the first medical
doctor to say yes I do believe that you
have Lyme disease and again he didn’t
have any answers he actually told me
that the FDA approved protocol for Lyme
disease which is a course of antibiotic
treatment would actually harm my body
more than it would do me good and that
he didn’t recommend it from there he
didn’t have any answers he was like well
you know just take some vitamins you
know get a lot of rest manage your
symptoms and he basically told me to go
live my life while I can and enjoy it
while I can because there was no way to
tell how quickly it would progress or
how far it would go because Lyme disease
affects every body differently it can
manifest in any organ system it can go
from you know minor aches and pains to
extreme paralysis and organ failure so
it was kind of just you know hands up in
the air like go do what you can and and
that’s it and I kind of SAT with that
for a while and I rolled down into a
pretty deep depression for a while and
then I was actually a student at the
University of Florida and this was in
2011 and I started to have problems with
my kidneys and I was going to kidney
specialist I was traveling all around
the state to try and find answers and it
again I was just hitting road block
after road block and what I see now is
that that those road blocks were
actually one of my greatest gifts
because I was being read to
did in a direction that would allow me
to truly heal not just put a bandaid on
it like most of the doctors were wanting
to do so again I was led to an
acupuncturist who lived in Gainesville
Florida and he introduced me to to
Eastern medicine Eastern medicine and
the idea of energy in the body and about
the the cause of disease not just the
symptoms but the to go a little deeper
into it and he really I worked with him
for about a year and when I was working
with him I really started to open up my
mind just started to open to the
realization that what I had been taught
was not the truth there was some truth
to it it’s not that Western medicine is
evil and it has its place you know in
accidents and surgeries and things like
that I’m extremely grateful for it god
forbid I ever am in that situation
myself I really hope that there’s a
doctor there to help me through it and
when it comes to more of these chronic
illnesses and things that especially
things that Western medicine can’t fix
or heal that there’s an innate power
within us that we can tap into and that
we can heal ourselves way how did you
how did you get to that breakthrough
where you realized that ok Western
medicine is no longer helping me I’m
gonna try these other things and thank
you I think you spent some time in the
jungle right with a shaman I did yeah so
the journey from there just opened up in
that moment there was a very specific
moment one one evening when I was
sitting in my car and you know just the
world felt like it was crashing and
around me one of the doctors I told me
that I was potentially going into kidney
failure again they didn’t really know
what to do and I just surrendered I just
let go and I just said whatever is out
there God the universe I don’t know what
you are but if you are out there I need
help because I have done
everything in my power that I know of to
help myself and I don’t know what to do
from here so I need help is what I asked
for and from there the doors just
started opening I mean I was led to that
acupuncturist and then I ended up living
in Europe for 13 months where I worked
with the one of the leading lime
specialists in the Netherlands and I
worked with a number of other healing
practitioners alternative healing
practitioners to really bring my body
back into balance and it was a very
intense year six months of that was a
very very intense herbal protocol where
I was basically on the couch for six
months felt like I was dying but it was
part of the process you know that junk
all of those toxins were moving out of
me and it got to a point where one of
the therapist told me she said you know
I I think that your body is doing really
well all of these things that you’re
doing is really helping but it’s almost
as though your mind doesn’t know how to
be healthy because I’d been sick for so
long basically my entire life I’d been
sick and my mentality was that of a sick
person the only way that I knew how to
be in the world was as someone who had
an illness and so she said you know I
had kind of already started looking into
spirituality in the idea you know I
started meditating already but it was
kind of like a a side thing it wasn’t
really my focus so when she said that I
started to really put my awareness in
that like okay there’s something deeper
that I need to go into and I need I you
know again I just asked for guidance I
said what is it what’s next and it’s
just funny how it worked literally the
day after so I sat down in meditation
one night and I said all right I have a
feeling that my time in Europe is coming
to a close I know that my body is doing
really well what’s next and the next day
a friend sent me a link to a retreat
center in Peru which it was an ayahuasca
healing retreat center and as soon as I
read over the website I just knew
oh there’s just this inner knowing that
no matter what else was going on in the
world no matter all the reasons why I
shouldn’t go to Peru IE not having the
money you know all these different
reasons why logically it didn’t make
sense for me to go to Peru I knew that I
needed to go to the jungle that this was
an answer for me it was the next step so
far guys you quick quick question so so
before when you had the like the medical
issues how did they know it was Lyme
disease because you know there’s like
chronic Lyme disease did you have like
the did you have the the rash like the
the textbook rash they had two day check
for the bacteria how’d they do what was
the process there yes so I don’t ever
remember having a rash because I was so
young and which is common I think like
twenty-five percent of patients actually
don’t get the rash exactly yeah you know
estimates are always different 5220 you
know twenty-five to fifty percent of
people don’t get the rash and then from
there the the bacteria so lyme disease
is a bacterial infection and oftentimes
the bacteria will come along with
different co-infections viruses most
people with lyme disease have candida
all of these different things that can
wreak havoc in the body and but it can
lie dormant for a while so it’s just the
similar to people with like HIV you can
have the virus in your body but it could
be there for years before it actually
manifests and you start having symptoms
and so I think that’s kind of what
happened with me is that I started
having some symptoms my immune system
was a little weakened but it wasn’t
until I was a teenager and I had a
fairly traumatic emotional experience
being in an abusive relationship at a
young age when I was 13 that really
triggered this in me so to answer your
question I did test positive on some of
the test bad that the FDA approves but
not all of them there’s different
markers and things that they read and
then the tests that the acupuncturist
the original acupuncturist had had me do
was basically scanning my
blood for the bacteria and that was the
one that showed up positive but that
test was not approved by the FDA weird
disease because I mean a lot of the
blood tests show up especially early in
the disease process i’m pretty sure they
should have negative from what i
remember my uncle had Lyme disease also
and he was in a heavily like deer tick
populated area in Georgia but it’s just
such an odd disease you know that the
chronic levels versus you’re just cute
Lee getting it yeah it’s and it’s hard
to diagnose too because it does affect
everybody differently and you know some
people say that oh it doesn’t exist in
these states like when I got diagnosed I
was living in Florida and I kept being
told well we don’t have Lyme disease in
Florida and I didn’t grow up in florida
i grew up in the pacific northwest in
washington and oregon where lyme disease
is very prevalent i lived in the middle
like of a national forest basically for
ten years and so yeah it is a very
interesting disease and how it manifests
in the acute and the chronic and the
whole political side of it is a whole
nother story too hmm so it sounds like
you’re going through this process of
breaking down over and over and over and
then you get this call to go into the
jungle which you decide to do and
described to us let’s paint a picture of
what it feels like to work with a shaman
for was it was it six months was that
how long you were there yeah I was there
for almost six months so I had
originally planned to go to a healing
center for one month and my intuition at
this point had become pretty strong and
I knew that I wasn’t supposed to make
any plans for afterwards I just figured
you know I’ll go travel Peru kind of do
maybe like an Eat Pray Love sort of
experience and so I just booked one
month at the healing center and then I
just left it open after that and um in
my first ayahuasca ceremony ayahuasca
this sacred plant medicine basically
told me that I was to stay at this
healing center and I was told who to
talk to i was told that i was going to
be there that this was part of my life
work was working with ayahuasca and so i
ended up staying there for almost six
months
and let’s see paint a picture it’s a
it’s a very kind of out-of-this-world
experience in terms of the average
Westerners experience of life I mean
you’re the healing center where I was at
it was two and a half hours give or take
from the nearest city which is one of
the most isolated cities in the world in
the middle of the Amazon jungle it was
like a 24-hour trip to get there you’re
just surrounded by these sounds and and
smells and feelings that are kind of
foreign you know all the animals and the
insects and where’d you end up going
which Center the Temple of the way of
light okay is that that you’re the one
in the mountain or the there’s like that
suppose as the two options I nope this
one only has one it’s in the jungle yeah
all right so you were the ketose yeah
outside of you keep those a couple hours
outside of me Cheetos yeah hmm so what
was your takeaway from the jungle wow
that’s a big question wow so many
takeaways I mean spending six months I
did 22 ayahuasca ceremonies while i was
in peru and i worked with a number of
other plants doing what’s called plant
diatas and a lot of what I was doing was
clearing my past learning about my
childhood and kind of seeing it from a
different perspective and learning about
Lyme disease and the illness and the
influence that it had had on me and and
also you know if I had to say what was
one of the biggest things that I took
away from that experience now being a
year and a half later had you asked me
this question coming out of the jungle
immediately it might have been a
different answer but I’ve been back in
the United States for over a year now
it’s been over a year and a half since I
started working with ayahuasca and one
of the biggest things that I’ve learned
is my own potential and I ayahuasca
brought me to both extremes to the
darkest parts of myself and also to the
brightest you know lightest most imp
our highest potential part of myself and
who I can be in the world and so what do
I use on my you know day to day life now
that I learned from ayahuasca is that I
can basically do whatever I want and I
am in control of my life and that you
know we all are it’s not just me I’m not
just special you know we all have this
capacity to to co-create and to two step
more fully into who we are when we let
go of all the stuff that the world has
put on us when we let go of who we were
told to be or who we were told we should
be and when we just step into who we are
and just show up in the world that way I
mean magic happens can you kind of talk
about because everyone pretty much has a
everyone I’ve known has a very
interesting how they first did ayahuasca
story what was this call like what was
what’s your story how did it come in
like seep into your life so to speak um
well so I synchronistic alee just ended
up in Europe um and I met a girl in
Spain and I met her in Portugal but we
were in Spain together traveling
together and she introduced me to I
owasco at least the idea that she told
me that it was one of the biggest
blessings at life had ever given her
that it had healed her a lot and I
thought it was fascinating and I looked
into it a little bit and it was kind of
one of those things because at this
point I was really doing a lot of
research on healing and stuff and a lot
of stuff was coming into my awareness
and it was kind of I just put it on the
back shelf with something that I would
like to try one day it wasn’t in my
immediate vicinity it wasn’t something
that I could try right then and there so
I was like all right one day that’s
something I would be interested in doing
and then about six months later six
seven eight months later um this guy
sends me that message on facebook and he
just said you know I know you’re into
healing and you should really need to
check this place out I’ve been here
twice really awesome stuff happening and
then he told me a little bit about
ayahuasca and he’s
like if you feel the call like you’ll
know that it’s for you if you don’t feel
anything then just you know ignore it
ignore the message and when I read it it
was just like I call it like zinging in
my body like there was just this intense
tingling that I’ve come to know is kind
of a message from my higher self but I’m
in alignment with my path or you know
with what is going to be the best thing
for me at that time and like I said I
just knew that I needed to get to the
jungle and despite not having any money
to get there at the time i attracted
that financial abundance into my life
and I less than eight months later was
in the jungle sitting down for my first
ayahuasca ceremony hmm very interesting
yeah so so then you’re back in the
states and you decide are you still I
mean just to rewind a bit are you still
suffering from your Lyme disease
symptoms I mean do you still have that I
do still have symptoms yes um one thing
that I’m that I learned with ayahuasca
is the the words that we use are very
powerful so I choose not to look at it
as suffering or even battling Lyme
disease um honestly I don’t even
necessarily think of myself as having
Lyme disease anymore I don’t really
that’s not a part of my identity is like
oh that lime chick or you know like that
patient with Lyme disease I I see it as
there is something in my body that is
still out of alignment and so I do still
have symptoms and I don’t see myself as
suffering one of the things that the
plants taught me was that illness and
disease are messengers there you know we
don’t have pain if something’s not wrong
you put your hand on a stove you get
pain because you know you take if you’re
being told to take your hand off the
stove so when I have a symptom that
comes up I have learned to kind of go
into it you know we we tend to want to
push pain away we want to put a bandaid
on it or you know put some ice on it
numb it and make it just go away and
I’ve learned instead to actually go
deeper into it too risky
even the message that my body is trying
to tell me right so it was the pasta
meditation retreat did you do that after
the ayahuasca I did yeah yeah let’s get
into that how did that work that was um
just something that had crossed again my
field of awareness a friend told me
about it and when I first heard about
vipassana I had no desire to do it
unlike ayahuasca um I was like yeah 10
days silence no not me like I like to
talk you know I I don’t think I can do
that and then when I came back from Peru
I’d met a ton of people in peru in six
months at a healing center a lot of
people were coming through and a bunch
of them had done the passion is and they
all had really great things to say about
it so i started thinking like you know
maybe this is something that i can
explore and it just kind of lined up
that there was one on my birthday last
year and my best friend and I went to it
and that was a really a really powerful
experience as well I mean just learning
discipline in that way to not eat it’s
not just silence it’s 11 hours of
meditation a day it’s no reading no
writing no music no eye contact with the
people who are around you it’s a very
basic diet and it I learned a lot about
where my maken goes into the one in
Georgia I went to one in Wisconsin
actually very cool mm-hmm was a 10-day
standerton day one yep tending can you
can you just tell people like I went to
one of these before I don’t know how the
food was there but it’s some of the best
food I’ve ever had in my entire life is
at these the pasta meditation retreats
and it’s completely free like it I can’t
believe that they do this for free and
they only accept money from people they
can only accept donations from people
that have done the course that’s the the
only way to really handle donations i
think from an organization they do it so
well yeah yeah I didn’t have the food
experience no I am a little bit of a
fruity so just cheese the whole time
human lot of cheese and a lot of credit
and considering that I’m gluten
intolerant and lactose intolerant that
wasn’t the most exciting thing for me
but that wasn’t why I was there you know
but I do think that the the whole
mentality of being of service the way
that they are you know they’re not like
pay thousands of dollars to come have
this experience and then if you don’t
like it yeah too too bad sorry they are
come have this experience and then
whatever value you receive from it if
you want to you know give back to
financially support someone else to have
this experience then then that is how
they they run and I just think that’s
fascinating I think that’s a it’s a
whole new way of you know of allow of
having a healing center run because
that’s basically what it is you know so
there was students there was a sort of
internal your I mean you’re you’re going
into yourself and these in both of these
ways I mean I you osku is a very
internal kind of thing right and you’re
processing all this information the
pasta kind of does the same thing in a
complete different way so I mean where I
mean where did you tow you you practice
meditation now and how how do you think
that’s helped you with the everyday kind
of battle that you experience hmm
meditation I found is one of the most
powerful tools for navigating through
this crazy wild world that we live in
and I mean that’s why I do these
retreats that’s why i isolate myself in
the jungle i’m actually going back to
Peru this summer that’s why I do for
passionate retreats or sometimes I’ll
just turn off my phone and turn off my
computer for the weekend or for a night
or something to just kind of go into
myself and what I found is that you know
we have this innate knowing this kind of
instinct about what’s best for us all
animals do you know animals know what to
eat when to sleep when to migrate and
we have that too as humans and we also
have the gift of a more expanded
elevated consciousness that we can bring
to it and so it’s not just this kind of
mindless moving in a direction because
that’s what our instinct tells us to we
also get to like learn lessons from it
and there are so many gifts that come
through following that kind of inner
knowing and what I found is that this
inner voice and you know we all kind of
have our own opinion or perspective on
what this inner voice is some call it
just your instinct some call it inner
knowing or intuition or guidance or you
know all of these different things is
that whatever you choose to call it this
thing knows something outside of what
our limited human mind can see so when I
go into meditation when I go into the
jungle when I go turn off my phone and
just be with myself it’s my way of
connecting with this inner voice because
there’s so much stimulation in our world
there’s so much information coming in I
mean even if you don’t watch the news or
I mean I I don’t watch the news I don’t
listen to the radio I am very very
selective about basically everything
that comes into my experience and I feel
like that helps me to be you know a
better person in the world because of it
and with all this stimulation we become
numb to that voice we we don’t most
people don’t even know it’s there you
know they might get a gut feeling every
once in a while but oftentimes they
ignore it and I’ve just learned that
this inner voice knows exactly what I
need to do each step of the way and I
realize now I didn’t know it at the time
but it’s what’s been guiding this entire
healing process for me how do you think
this current kind of cesspool landscape
of culture that’s going on that you you
know that you pretty much are checking
out of is going to bear on your
generation in the future I see us has
having a really really big and beautiful
opportunity to make some rad
change in the world and it doesn’t take
a lot you know you don’t have to look
very far to realize that our world is
not doing very good we’re not doing very
well as a species and I really do
believe that we are being given the
opportunity to create change in a way
that’s more sustainable and more
fulfilling to every person and all
beings on this planet plants and animals
and everything in you know I i do get
down on this the cesspool of our culture
that we’ve created and sometimes I just
look at the world and I’m like oh god
it’s too much like there’s no way that
we can do this like we can’t really
change this you know but then I look
around at some of the really beautiful
things that are happening in the world I
mean you know what even what you guys
are creating here in your podcast I mean
you know this is creating change you
know for all the people who are
listening to you for all the people who
are watching my videos were influencing
in a may be subtler way then some people
think this change needs to happen in a
lot of people are very kind of more
masculine energy go in and you know just
create change right then and there and
it’s I think that it’s going to be a
little bit of a more subtle internal
individual change and as each person
begins to shift their own awareness a
bit it’ll begin to create a ripple
effect that is going to change all of
humanity is my belief you said something
super interesting so you said that
there’s some kind of energetic balance
how do you see that kind of masculine
feminine balance going on with an hour
generation just in general right now in
this society that you live in how would
you how would you describe what’s going
on i would say that we live in a very
patriarchal male-dominated masculine
energy society right now and the
masculine energy is not bad
of itself I mean in order to have
balance we have to have both right so to
go to the extreme feminine side that
wouldn’t be right either that wouldn’t
be the best thing for all of us either
but to bring ourselves kind of back to
Center away from the more masculine
which is very I mean just look at the
American culture you know it’s instant
gratification it’s quick fast easy cheap
you know just go go go build build build
you know get bigger bigger bigger faster
faster faster and that action that
energy of action is completely necessary
we need it and we also need the more
feminine energy of of stillness and of
intuition and of flowing and bringing
those two into balance and dancing with
the two like I said you know it’s going
to be a more individual change I believe
that it’s going to happen within
ourselves just being able to witness
those kind of two polarities within
ourselves and being able to dance with
them and being able to know when to show
one and when to show the other you know
when but I call it the art of
discernment of discerning when to use
what energy or what aspect of our self
is about another way to put it so Oriana
how how do you think this is sustainable
for you i mean is i mean i know that you
have different tools that you use like
meditation yoga and your diet is pretty
specific I imagine so I mean to the
people who watch your videos and are
learning from you and becoming part of
your community I mean what are you
offering them what are you giving them
my overall message I guess and I do this
through a number of different ways I
make youtube videos i have a blog i am
pretty active on social media and I also
do spiritual life coaching and my
overall kind of message
I would say is to learn how to listen to
the center voice and that you can trust
it and that you know they’re like you
said that everything kind of plays into
it it’s the the mindfulness techniques
it’s our diet it’s our relationships
it’s our career and passion it’s you
know every different aspect of our self
plays into this fulfillment and in to
being our authentic selves this idea hit
me when i was in peru of exploring your
life unapologetically so basically the
way that I see that is just showing up
in the world as who you are and not
being sorry for it not having to
apologize for wanting something or for
not wanting something or for behaving in
one way and not another way that someone
else thinks you should and I think that
we all have the ability to show up more
fully as who we are through letting go
of who were not and there’s so many
different ways that we can begin to
remove those blocks that are preventing
us from being our authentic self and I
like to use the metaphor of it’s like
peeling it’s like you’re a burn victim
you know let’s say you got a
third-degree burn on your arm and you
have all this burnt charred skin on your
arm and in order to allow the new skin
to breathe you have to peel off that old
skin you have to get rid of it and that
is how healing happens and I feel
through my journey and through all of
the people that I’ve been working with
and connecting with that this is a part
of the process we have to be willing to
peel off that old stuff and let go of
all of that old stuff that’s preventing
us from breathing fully and sometimes
that’s painful you know sometimes that
isn’t pretty sometimes it’s really
really hard so then what what led you to
hit
word on your YouTube camera and and kind
of put yourself in the world to do what
you’re doing right now I was actually
contemplating that I was just meditating
before we had this call and I was
contemplating that about just this whole
journey and where it’s taken me and I
can kind of see how this whole process
I’ve been being prepared for this work
that I’m doing right now and but
originally at the time when i press that
play button i had no idea i had no idea
that this was going to be a part of my
story i was just i was in peru and i was
the morning after my first ayahuasca
ceremony it was like 12 hours later and
i really wanted to journal about my
experience but I was kind of in this
state where I was not able to write at
the time and I just decided to grab my
phone and I went and sat on this trail
and I just started recording this video
of my experience and I had some friends
and you know family who were interested
in hearing about my journey so I kind of
figured like it you know like instead of
me coming back and telling them about it
they can see it firsthand what it was
like and so I just talked I just talked
into the camera as though i was talking
to myself or talking to my mom or my
best friend and i just gave it all you
know I really wanted to document the
experience and so I talked about some of
the more specific details that had I
known that you know a ton of people were
going to be seeing this video I probably
wouldn’t have talked about yeah yeah and
then I just kept making more it it felt
very freeing to talk about it but I love
writing and that’s really powerful for
me but to be able to just kind of
articulate it and to just have that on
video for me was great and so I made I
believe six videos when i was in peru
and all with the intention of just
showing to an intimate group of people
and as my time in peru kind of
progressed I started to realize more and
more that these videos weren’t just for
myself and these
people in my life that my journey was
different and that I had an experience
that would resonate with a lot of people
and that it was almost my sacred duty to
humanity to share this with the world
and to to put these videos up on YouTube
and it was never really my intention to
market them or it or I mean I had
already trained to be a coach and so
again that was kind of in the back of my
mind of wanting to step more fully into
my role as a coach and guiding people
but it wasn’t out of the intention of
like marketing myself or anything like
that it was just kind of like when I
posted that first video I actually said
a prayer before it and I just said you
know universe whoever needs to hear this
message I trust that you will you know
allow them to find this video and I just
let it be at that and it has just grown
since then I think I have close to 50
videos up now and the way that I make
videos is I just when I feel inspired
when I feel that zing that I talked
about of something that I feel like
someone somewhere will benefit from I
just post I you know grab my computer
and I make a video and I post it and I
just let it go out into the world how do
you feel about this kind of personal
braining that’s going on with you know
these YouTube stars you know you have
people with their blogs that are
becoming internet celebrities how do you
how do you feel about this changing
landscape and in every aspect I think
you know on so many levels it’s a really
beautiful thing i think that the
internet has allowed us to experience
life in a way that we had never before
as a species right i mean you guys never
would have found me you know we wouldn’t
be having conversation if it wasn’t for
the internet and I’ve connected with so
many beautiful beautiful people in this
last year since I posted that first
video and and whether it’s just people
commenting on my videos or the the
numerable private messages that people
send me or emails or connecting with
people who eventually become klein
hands it’s been such a gift to to be
able to connect with people all over the
world we’re living in the future Hey Oh
totally yeah this is totally the future
that being said I think um you know my
boyfriend o’yea says he’s like I feel
like I’m dating a celebrity and I’m like
what filming that doesn’t feel like me
at all like I don’t see myself like that
at all but then I guess other people do
in a way see me as a YouTube star or
this or that you know we all have our
own perspectives and I’m just like I
just want to share you know I just want
to see more light in the world I just
want to see more people be happy I just
want to see more people having fun and
being playful and you know it doesn’t
really matter to me if that’s one person
or you know the 3,500 people who have
subscribed to my youtube channel so far
it’s just as long as it’s that one
person you know as long as like one
person receives benefit from what I’m
doing then it totally makes it worth it
you know it seems kind of cliche but I
feel the same way about the podcast and
I feel like if we can reach just that
one person that we’ve done our jobs in
some way but you also have this
community that you set up where people
can connect and kind of talk can you
tell us more about that mmm yeah so this
whole process has been just like I just
take it as it comes it unfolds and and I
take and this is what I was kind of
talking about about the masculine and
the feminine right so my whole coaching
practice and the community and the
videos I don’t have a business plan I
don’t have a business strategy I don’t
sit down and you know all right well
today I’m going to write this blog and
tomorrow I’m gonna write this video and
this is the plan for the community and
this and that it’s not like that at all
for me I just go with it and I just take
it as it comes and what I realized is as
I was connecting with a lot of people
from all over the planet from so many
different walks of life is that the one
thing that kind of tied us all together
is that we feel like we’re alone we feel
like we are outsiders in
world and like work crazy no word that a
lot of people use and I know that I felt
a lot of times myself and a lot of
people just kept saying like you know I
don’t really need coaching but I just
want someone to talk to about what I’m
experiencing I need to know that I’m not
crazy and so I decided I’m like why not
like why not create this community where
people can come to and connect and share
and you know be inspired and grow
together and just kind of see where it
goes so it started with an online forum
and then from there we opened up to
monthly group calls and recently I
expanded it to Facebook at the request
of many of the members to kind of have a
more like daily interaction so is it
more like a mastermind group is that we
were doing it it isn’t quite a
mastermind now um it’s just a place for
people to connect I guess I mean so we
actually had a our monthly group call
was earlier today and I led the first I
think the first group call was in
November so no you know four months or
so and I let I actually handed the reins
over to someone else this month I let
someone else lead the group because the
group isn’t about me I just happened to
be kind of the common thread between all
of these people because of my youtube
videos but I I’m not really trying to
like you know market it or sell anything
or anything like that it’s just a way
for people to share and and I feel like
one of the greatest gifts that I can
give people through this and and that
has been given to me is the space to
step up into my leadership abilities and
to know that I can create influence in
the world and then I am a force for good
and so I started asking members of the
community if they want to lead the group
calls to kind of give them that space to
to be a leader and to two step more
fully into their power okay or Ariana
speaking of crazy we’re gonna we’re kind
of try this new bit so Xavier never been
taught
about doing this for some interviews and
it’s got it says the called the five
questions segment so we’re gonna ask you
five questions and we want you to answer
the questions as like I’m gonna ask you
a question right and I want you to
answer it how it makes you feel and try
to use adjectives you can like the first
thing that you think of the first thing
that comes your mind right when you’re
on the spot right now this is not a game
all right all right let’s go right
you’re popping our five questions cherry
right now on the human experience is it
exclusive all right magic moment here
already okay favorite color hey why well
okay so my favorite color is pink yeah
so far so good okay and it makes me feel
cheerful is is the first thing that kind
of comes to mind okay next question
favorite animal and why mmm my favorite
animal is the giraffe and why because
they’re so strange and awkward and
they’re still so cool at the same time
you know they’re like horses but was
like crazy long next all right so air
water earth fire air water earth fire
favorite element and why fire because it
it’s what transmutes you know it it
changes things um and i’m a fire sign I
Maneri we’re over halfway through this
we got this favorite body of water any
body of water you’ve ever been in or
seen or heard of it what’s your favorite
body of water and why favorite body of
water is I don’t know if this isn’t an
answer but my bathtub this is highly
interesting that’s just not really
interesting
it’s my favorite place to meditate so it
clears your mind yeah okay you’re gonna
love the reasoning pinal he sinks last
question ready so you wake up tomorrow
morning in an empty white room there’s
no doors there’s no windows how do you
react I would think I was dead yeah and
I think it would be okay with that not
that okay that’s out that kind of came
out wrong not that I want to die but I
feel like a white room is like it’s
light you know it’s just like pure light
it’s what I imagined so I would be I
would be centered and calm and embrace
it perfect okay so the first one is the
color represents how you feel about
yourself so what did you say cheerful
yeah well yeah cheerful again the animal
is your ideal partner so someone that’s
weird and awkward it’s your ideal
partner the element is your spirituality
so fiery mmm and the body water is how
you feel about sex so about there you go
and then the last one you actually
nailed it is how you feel about death
Wow interesting very interesting very
interesting so Ariana it has it’s been a
pleasure talking to you actually very
interesting is there any is there any
sort of message or anything that you
want to get out to your listeners
followers people yeah mmm you know just
keep going mmm this is a wild ride we’re
on guys is this life experience the
human experience you know and just
embrace it make the most of it learn
from it what you can and know that
there’s more on the other side buckle up
perfectly and where seems like you just
don’t care and where can people find
your work your website my website is the
holistic explorer com
i’m also on youtube if you just type in
my name ariana joy I think you can find
me that way awesome well guys this is a
human experience thank you so much for
listening and to my guest Ariana and my
co-host thanks guys we’ll see you guys
you so much guys thanks
