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Episode 192 – Mark Gober – Unveiling the Spiritual and Mystical Universe
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Episode 192 – Mark Gober – Unveiling the Spiritual and Mystical Universe

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Episode 192 – Mark Gober – Unveiling the Spiritual and Mystical Universe

Mark Gober returns to examine whether consciousness is produced by the brain—or whether the brain may instead shape and filter something more fundamental. A conversation about perception, evidence, and the limits of materialism.

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