Episode 181 – Wim Hof – The Iceman – Ice water for healing, Igniting natural power

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conversation with mr. wim HOF just to give you guys at the atmosphere for this conversation it was conducted in wins hotel room when we walked in he's wearing a towel he has his feet in a bucket of ice so truly a classic setting to conduct a face-to-face interview this

was a six month long process of coordinating and schedules but truly worth it we get deep in this conversation we talk about the pharmaceutical industry we talked about how Western medicine has betrayed humanity we get into spiritual warfare

we talk about how to reconnect with yourself in nature this episode is full of information in the middle of our talk wim shares a very personal hard-hitting experience that happened to him and his family it was heartbreaking to hear about but for him to open up to us on

that level is what we we live for and me in these interviews what we that's what makes everything worth it to have someone you've never encountered before completely open up to you if you guys like what you hear get to the human XP calm / donate we currently survive

through listener support buy us dinner lunch or a coffee make sure that you get to our twitter feed facebook page and youtube channel all at the human XP thank you guys so much for listening we are sitting with the legendary mr. wim HOF whim thank you so

much for doing this sir yeah right on okay nice of you to invite me human experience as I heard yes sir so I actually really just want to know what does it feel like we are at longevity conference you're about to speak you're sitting just want to describe to anyone

listening wim is in a towel and he's he has his feet in a bucket of ice so when you're very much living up to the wim HOF tradition how does it feel to be speaking in two hours to a record size crowd 4,000 5,000 people how does it how does it feel oh I didn't know where as

much as you say you like numbers like four or five thousand people I didn't know that now I'm scared haha though I the thing is what I do I believe in and it is scientifically proven and we are about to embark in a yeah in studies revealing human potential to the fullest

and it's coming and I'm very excited about all this yet also a little bit frustrated because why does it take so long as we discovered this already two and a half years ago and and public ate it published it in the best of magazines in the world for the first time in

scientific history showing that the autonomic nervous system related to the immune system as well as the endocrine system can be influenced in a very short period of time like a couple of days maybe in like 10 minutes so so when yes we're gonna we'll get to that point

so I mean for the people who are listening that may not know who you are and what you do what is can you describe briefly what is it a wim HOF method method take came about after say 3035 years of practice and experiences in nature i challenge my body I felt at the

beginning like a soul search I was looking for a deeper meaning of life and I couldn't find it in society it's a yeah to profane to not appealing to my a deeper sense of what I was looking for so you go in a soul search and it did a lot of visited a lot of traditions

disciplines and esoteric disciplines traditions cultures languages philosophies Buddhism Hinduism plein air religions and and yet no not the connection which I was longing for feeling within myself as a missing link I found when I got into the ice water

and ice water is a natural element its temperature it's an impact on the body and then suddenly if you just ripe enough to go in and it's igniting a deeper power within which is a natural power and it has been awakened and then from yeah I was like 18 years or 17 18

years yeah it's when it all began and from there I so naturally that we are able to do so much more than as we think possible let's yeah i loved i love that lets can we can we talk more about that i mean what is so what is something that we are able to do that maybe traditional

science or medicine teaches us that we can't like what is what is something that you have found through your work and exploring consciousness and spiritual different what did you find that the human body is capable of as I was talking about

philosophies traditions colleges disciplines but also spirituality like religion I came up with the key to go in as deep as nature mentor to be inside of ourselves proving what never has been proving in scientific history up till now that we are able to go not only into

the autonomous nervous system which is outside of our will but not now anymore but all to the subconscious and for that normally I'd to Train like a yogi for years and years and seclude yourself back in a cave and be able to esoteric into secret disciplines or Christian

mysticism and all that yeah and now it is just being done in a couple of days hey what's happening so that that's it there is no secret anymore and alter the Buddhists right now they give a way they opened up and their deepest of secrets within the doctrines of the of Buddhism

and they they handed over they it's opening up well and possibly i will meet the Dalai Lama very soon oh it's being organized I get the Ripper representatives gold but it's not a real interest to me real interest is being done by proving scientifically do that

we all are able to tap in to our physiology enabling us to experience much more spirituality a physiological depth related to say health strength happiness which is a hormonal issue yeah and we are all able to tap into those systems of ours much more not only that

now comes the interesting part the ex ending the consciousness spirituality at a yoga asana yoga chitta vritti nero da da da sua soir paiva sternum is potentially 1200 years ago yeah telling us hey yoga that's the union of the little soul and bake so that's a jihad

map parmatma I was reading about all this but hey it doesn't make sense what is this what is that and now they see it's expanding consciousness and expanding consciousness actually going consciously into the brain and fusing older by neurons and neurotransmitters

synapses into all the parts of our brain creating the right brain waves like gamma theta della and we have shown this that it doesn't take hours of meditation or years of meditation to get a sense of going deeper into the brain we are now able not only to go deeper into our

brain and show it that's what we do with the Stanford University so non speculative is my way right of showing it right it's not a matter of believe anymore it's our data and from data we will learn to look different to reality and have a sort of a paradigm shift like

think different oh that's possible so then it gets subconsciously into ourselves and we learn to be different because in the end it's the mind over the matter but we lost this belief we lost this connect a contact this connection and now we are bringing this

back so the most interesting part for me is only about to begin to show that expanding consciousness is possible creating new neurological pathways in the brain doing it with the best of universities and neurobiologists showing that we can get rid of fear trauma PTSD

depression or anything like that we have the ability as mammals even as humans mammalian physiology plus neocortex the very fast neurological pathways you are going on oh no no no not on creating cultures buildings like this Alton hotel and and skyscrapers and

bridges and shooting people to Mars and all that but not being able to get in our health happiness and strength that's poor and not only that one but also the spirituality the abstract spirituality believin feelin here right now that we are able to create new

neurological pathways leading up to wonder every day which is a natural feeling a natural state of the mind to see the Wonder every day which is expanding consciousness which is creating consciously new neurological pathways I'm into that right now because

the rest we already have proven that it is not yet really coming top down so implemented so everybody is able to understand it is already a fact that we are able to tap into the autonomic nervous system and the cream systems and the queen is hormonal so what what is

happiness those are hormones right what is strength those are hormones what is health that's the immune system yeah we have shown very with thousands of data non speculatively that we are able to tap in to those systems far more than ever thought possible scientifically and

now it is signs but from there we go into this abstracting called this spirituality and really we will take these abstract things because nobody where is the fear how to deal with trauma rowdy water emotion we don't know no we alienate it from our feeling we

alienate it from harmony with nature and the result is now that we are in a sort of a confusion we can shoot people to the moon we cannot even reach in our brain so when I mean you're right i agree with you one hundred percent that there is the sense of confusion and

there I mean this is why meditation yoga have recently become so culturally phenomenal because we are as human beings we are looking for answers we're looking for some level of truth we were looking up for some level of connectivity within ourselves you've

done you've done some really amazing things like you you're known for the wim HOF method which involves in breathing exercises and also enduring cold I think there was what what has been the most kind of insane thing that you've done as far as I mean the

perceptual kind of something that people wouldn't believe that you've done been able to do through these through the methods that you have found it yeah the thing is I'm crazy about life but I'm not an idiot no nor a fool maybe sometimes but you know hey don't take it

too serious we take it on light but not when you are hanging by one finger at one-half kilometer in midwinter in a cold climate then you have to then you need to control real control beyond any doubt beyond any thinking or minding or go swim and lose the way under the ice

because you have no goggles no experience before but I felt I could do that and I did I did those things far more than anybody thought possible or run a marathon without shorts in midwinter a bi minus 20 minus 30 degrees Celsius and and you know all

these things or climb Mount Everest to the depth zone in shorts and a more of those things like 26 of those World Records Guinness World Records that attracted in the end the scientists because they saw but he's doing things that are humanely actually not possible

he's doing it let's test him so they began to test me and then they found out compared to the existent studies that I was able to counter act on say a bacteria being injected and no reaction or create a stay in warmth in the core for 80 minutes while being in freezing

temperatures and just wearing shorts and complete a completely immersed yeah and more of those things and they took the blood and everything and it showed that all kinds of things were happening that could lead up if I was not just the exception but just an example of how the

physiology could go ad that it could lead up if I was able to reproduce this with a test group two enormous new insight in the capabilities of our human physiology for every body and for that i created a method which is accessible and very effective for everybody and it

consists of three limbs like breathing cold gradual cold exposure and mindset it showed that me with my mind only in front of her in the hospital connected to giving blood and lung me too hard meter that i was able without moving just by my thought going

in for 80 minutes to raise metabolic activity within the cell with three hundred percent that's our mind that's the placebo no that's our mind and everybody has this but everybody lost the belief to use it they believe the direction so right now we are proving

this by neurobiology neuro scientists neuroscience immunology intensive care of nuclear science even with NASA so it's no longer mumbo jumbo it's not longer hocus pocus it's the magic of our physiology and bringing it back as common sense to every person in the

world and how i use you as a window because what I found it's not only believe it's what we are I found out in nature heart nature which is a just merciless but righteous I found out the right way the way nature meant it to be not the way we thought it should happen

and how it is systemized and how this sodomized like full industries para sighting on our being disease we are it is just the clients of that whole the industry they don't want us to become aware aware of not only aware they don't want us healthy healthy they want to

take away the symptoms but not the course so so it's it's truly revolutionary what you're what you're what you've been able to do and you're at speaking events such as this and you're teaching people now how to find within themselves the window to

health and the connection with nature that they that they have inherently that we all have inherently is there one specific moment when I mean there must have been a point in your life where what caused you to go in this direction to look or something were you

seeking were you seeking answer I'm looking for I think it was a you know yoga they call it karma you can call it destiny but what is that it has been coerced may be genetically to come about you know like nah not being righteous in the in the past life or

somebody passed it on genetically and something happened and it happened with me when I was born I was born almost a suffocated because they did new I'm part of a identical twin so they didn't knew there was a second way I was the second one and so I was born too late in a cold

whole way almost suffocated Wow so I survived over there and it gave me because I had no reference of mind as a baby but you get a psychic imprint and that changed me in the course of my life becoming a seeker not being like my identical twin brother just normal so

anybody who is a was just taking up this seeking into the depth or finding out or awakening the depth because nowadays the fact is able to get there and I my brother is not my twin brother my identical twin brother is not able to do what I do because he wasn't there

internet he lives like everybody so and I now he is taking up in her and he is teaching people as well but not as good as I am of course no no [ __ ] just no speculation I'm an investigator I filed there was more I had to come to those with that at

terms and so I became a seeker I visited all kinds of disciplines cultures like i said already before yeah and i found out the cold water yeah that was like my the time when i was born was cold i had to survive you could become very sensitive

if you have no oxygen inside and you survive you get into this different modus and i was looking for that and i found it i made contact with that traumatic experience within my psychic body which is the electrical body a nervous system it's a nervous system

thing yeah right and once i got into this cold I really became a way I felt hey this wow this feels good no this made contact with my traumatic experience and now I had a the ability to go into that consciously so that is feeling good it's connection that made

me strong that made me able to have control within myself about a with the deepest of the deepest go past the there thinking because the thinking had no a function at that moment because no functionality because it was not there as a baby yeah you know but it was just

a psychic imprint and we lost this connection with this deeper part of the brain which is the reptilian brain the brain stem right now we are doing all kinds of studies with all kinds of universities Detroit is San Francisco and over on the brain stem right and it

seems to be that we probably have found a way not probably we really found the way to tap into those areas were before scientifically we had no idea how to get into that more than say Madison do you believe that Western medicine as much I mean it seems that you're

saying that Western medicine go too much into symptom much bubble behind behind where we can be if we simply tune into this aspect of ourselves of connecting to our psychic bodies and connecting to these different ways of of of healing ourselves we why you said it but where

do you see consciousness now where do you see the consciousness of the planet yeah let me use a little metaphor I said like Western medicines and chemistry and laboratory settings very fine instruments they have to do to go into even the DNA and see how it all works

etc it's like a beautiful car and it's driving you're driving around but actually with a little shortcut using you to Lex you will get home with what we have we got plenty to get to word where we should be but we lost that way and that's why we use the car we go all

around but we never feel cute we never feel at home and it's going around and around so that's my little matter for what I see right now a metaphor the thing is at Western medicine I'm not against any evolution or any way of the establishment right

out of the safe pharmaceuticals and a food industry but they're actually messing up our with our physiology and chemistry absolutely and yeah they should be overtaken and not with a hippie culture note with a real culture called science yes yeah and it's time

now I know that you're working with Andrew cooverman out of Stanford yeah what is it what is some of the work that your work working on with him it's coming so very soon we have all kinds of meetings with very powerful people and annexed here we're going to conduct

three big studies and I cannot reveal too much about it right now because he is in charge of the scientific itinerary I just say I'm very excited he sees the effectiveness and the possible consequences are huge we are going to make history that no doubt no doubt and

well I got a last thing or what I say about him he says this is most possibly the new way to control the mind in the future for a human mankind and no less so what are we talking about hey that's a big mystery Oh spiritual we don't know wow it's so big no its you

its little it's simple and we bring it back where it belongs within us taken away sorrow and unnecessary pain and suffering and going into loops bang direct and how is going to be manifested by talks like this and further on of course we will endorse it with science

yeah I absolutely love that you're using that methodology and you're connecting it back to science it seems that you're very decided on the idea of using science as a vehicle because it seems for for the masses and for the public it's it's very important to back

up the claims with hard data with information um you can call it heart data can it cold hard data you know where at the heart yeah it making sense again damn too deep and everybody will understand because it was their old auditor real knowledge it really comes

from the heart but we need to go past this mind thing for that we need to heart data yeah so you know yeah you started you started this early on i mean you know just with the method but you wrote a manifesto on consciousness in the 70s what was what was that manifesto called

when you were 23 I wrote many things and but I had yoga as a technique and my first book was about silence climbing in silence that was after my wife died suicided emotional and and yeah I made a song when I was 17 and it was about try to find yourself in one way or

another the only thing you can help is your health that of yours and of others then you get these lines of I remember I was a kid playing down the beach didn't worry about a thing the game was the only thing I reached and with my bucket am with my Spade a new casas to mate I

was satisfied I had no problems to hide I never forget the day again again my child is childish simplicity walked away and never forget that day my childish simplicity walked away I was standing there a little man in menswear every day the same again for that rotten bargain

working on that machine producing natural glycerin the stuffed who destroys yourself you're only me your health that is they actually the awakening when I was 17 and I was just alone there and still nice song maybe is going to be a hit someday who knows but

the thing that actually the drive I had since I was born and you know if nobody does it I do it and after I produced all these results in the University and it came on television I thought I was driving my bicycle through Amsterdam and I thought and I saw these images eh

it's very easy to kill somebody who found a natural method to go into the autonomic nervous system and the immune system their hormonal system in the depth of our physiology far more than in scientific history has been displayed or published or proven and that that will

kill not not people I mean it will make them healthy and get give them back their self-control but will kill a sick industry yeah hey that could be dangerous but I'm not gonna live in fear I decided I just keep on and now too many people know so that's my tactics

man I seem very you seem very strong and you have you have a presence that is very real you know you have a very raw presence you don't hold back doesn't seem like you ever rolled back and you have you have this natural sense of being present like you're bright you're

just in in the moment you're in present in the moment you mentioned mentioned your wife dying so I mean that must affect your heart right oh yeah completely demolished and broken and shattered and the society is sometimes quite senseless but I had four children

and I took care of them they they they gave me all the purpose to to continue every day not to think but to take care of them and that really made me survive and be okay but this awkward feeling of a broken heart it just was suppressed but always had his influence deeply so

we're but by going into ice water and climbing even without gear steep walls like almost risk in my life no try find a deeper silence than this nagging emotional being my wife was not there anymore I had to be there for my children yeah so yes and that that

really was a big big big big lesson far more than I could swallow or learn off or take on at that moment just overtook me and yeah broken heart is a broken heart but her a broken heart is one is senseless world is another so right now I got out of this at that Valley now i'm

working with all these children of mine they are adults they have been studying and they are full of fully commitment and what i do they believe in it and a day I chair like children like or like any family we are very we were shattered oh but now we are like a new nest and

it's all working to get a very good to the chemistry I learned of all these things maybe it's karma again because I didn't understand or why why and that why now turn into a if I God now the knowledge to take away what made my wife suicide which is a schizophrenia mental

disease the disease of the brain infection inflammation then am I'm going to prove that we all are able to cure of those diseases terrible not being in control of yourself is horrible and she was a sweet mother beautiful woman very intelligent heightened awareness and

then this devil inside this non control being there neurology completely gone that makes you she didn't just decide to go and jump from an 8th floor that was a whole lot behind and now I'm about to prove neuro neurological and that we are able to

counteract on this because at that time nobody had any idea and I suffered there from so it made me into an investigator and I went into nature I found my silence and I will I will silence all those scientists who think you cannot do anything about this and this is the way

and we have to take medicines and kill the symptoms we don't know the course as a [ __ ] them yeah absolutely there is no right for some unnecessary suffering in this world and as we are able to take it away in all industries are just blocking

this that's not only no evolution it's murder yeah we are if we are able to do that we have to tackle them and we have to do this together we gotta do this together with we are beings of light let's be like light and speed up when I you know I'm very curious to know your

opinion on very touching story by the way your wife dying thank you appreciate you stitch airing that with us dunno I want to know your opinion on the usage of psychedelics there are organizations such as Maps in the Hefner Institute that are using drugs psychedelic drugs

like MDMA LSD to help heal PTSD and other issues that that people face what is your opinion about the usage of these camp I'm doing article sitting yes I i I'm doing study two together and we are going to do we're part number two of the spirit molecule together with

Rick Strassman yeah rickster hi Rick Strassman and me we had some controversial mill traffic going on he thinks that the that you need in a endogenous exogenous trigger you know trigger from outside try to create is a dmt yeah and I say no to endogenous it's already inside you

just there is a formula and the formula is the melatonin minus co2 makes DMT but you got to know how to do that is with these breathing exercises and I want to show that first by taking away say trauma PTSD and depression all which is that for what they take MDMA a

psychedelics like LSD and ayahuasca and more of those yeah and I will show that we are able to regain a sense of control for those who are suffering from those conditions mental conditions so a they are good some of these drugs hormonal triggers for those who ever say terminal

cancer or a really deep psychosis and all that and they are in this loop neurological loops in inside it breaks it it just shattered through and then they have a sense of relief and but what we do is still I'm into the studies now and they will show that there are

different ways without drugs to deal with these mental loops such as psychosis depression PTSD fear anxiety and all that yeah so uh yeah now my opinion anything that works hey okay man but if we can do it by ourselves and it works even better yeah I think that if

we're able to naturally do this using techniques like breathing effective breathing and reconnecting with nature why why not why not use what's in ourselves all ready to help heal ourselves right so I'm for for someone that's may be listening to us

speaking right now what is something that they can do apply to their lives directly to help them it may be someone who's suffering struggling with depression or anxiety or fear or there's something going on with them what would be one piece of advice that you could

give them that would help them cope with that there's a right and a left side in our brain the left side is more irrational and the right side is more peeling irrational the right side a is more the one who implements inside of our psyche in our subconscious and the

left side is taking it a rational Russia now wow I can tell you guys learn to see rationally that we are able to tap into our physiology are knowing deep and have been proven that in scientific realm's community so we are able to do that you

are able to do that we are made to be able to cleanse our psyche our neurology immune system anything our brain our heart our organs anything and it's related to the autonomic nervous system as they and it's outside of our will as they said and it's no longer that that

creates a belief i believe a that's possible so it is not not possible it is possible then I'd get into the right hemisphere of the brain which is implementation this subconscious there you will change only by believing already then use breathing breathing

make the neurotransmitters the neurons the neurology way better and we can do this we can become alkaline any time like in 10 minutes and you can prove that with these little papers pH papers yeah they do it for the swimming pool you know you can piss on it and have a

before proof yeah acidic and then you begin to do with your breathing and we got a free course for that on the inner fire doctor now mm-hmm just look at it and you find out and prove it to yourself that you are able to become alkaline from being acidic before

breathing go for it you believe it you see it you feel it and 10 minutes later yeah again and then it's alkaline from yellow to blue and green is in between all kinds of shapes and and that makes and we have just proven this in a completed study with the University

again Rep reducible 48 people that we are in the lymphatic system and that's where all the acidic acidity of our body accumulated by our stressful lives and all that is being stored into the chemistry we are now able to get into that and and clean the old [ __ ] yeah and

that's it so you begin to believe hey we are made as nature manda to be to become a happy strong and healthy that's the hormonal system and immune system okay that creates and that the implementation part the a subconscious part of our being directed by implementation into

the last left the whatever say at the right hemisphere of our brain which is related to the subconscious yeah will make us different in very short period of time a couple of days just begin you better believe it that it is so we are made to become happy strong and healthy

like any animal walking in down there if we are depressed or half conscious and it not being convinced it's like not being effective within nature we are not built to be so we are built to be alert we are built to be strong and happy and healthy just to be effective that's

our mammalian physiology but our brain is [ __ ] us up is messing us up with all what we have learned in schools etc now you learn a new thing we have proven already by science it's yet not coming top down it's not really implemented into the masses but we are a full

chapter in the university books already and it's about the endocrine systems the immune system and the autonomic nervous system we are built to be able to have a lot more control over the homeowner system and the immune system or say to become happy strong and healthy at will

you better believe it and then you begin with the breathing and with the breathing you are able to take away what is being stored up in acidic state chemistry within the lymphatic system and to clean the body you clean yours don't you now clean your body to you do

it with breathing so then the mind is suddenly into itself and we are able to go with this breathing cleansing and therefore creating the right chemistry in brain enabling us subtle to get a neuro neurological control of the brain stem which is the directory of our primitive

urges like endocrine system immune system adrenaline cortisol endorphine melatonin even dimethyltryptamine it's all there it's amazing it's really trim that's amazing because life is amazing and we are amazing and now it's time to wake up to that and come at terms with

it women do you believe and you know i'm going into the fringe a little bit here but do you believe perhaps that on this planet here on earth that there may be a war a spiritual war like oh maybe I mean why are we fed this propaganda why are we fed these systems of control wire

why is the pharmaceutical industry set to keep us sick I mean why why all these systems of control that we face and that's a that's the question why is it all there but I don't think it's an interesting anymore now too interesting to get into are we able to become happy

strong and healthy at will is that interesting or is it interesting why is it that the power structures and the money gaining purchase within us make us so depressed so out of control they're going with like six cars that makes you more happy bigger than one car or one

house and a lot of as good girls and and or strippers at cedra this Saxon door and and and the power and all that why is it that we are not experience the depth of ourselves and not being able to express love the way it should and way nature meant it to be you know it's so

beautiful all because we had a disconnected and we are being maintained manipulated by people who are just applying to a primitive urges like power because of their insecurities everybody is in the same insecurities nobody knows that there is a deeper understanding where

they notice a deeper power and we all victim to the same mass psychological infrastructure cold society and civilization you know how many people are depressed in our so-called high civilized society yeah and is is that society is that civilization no it's a

it's a way down somewhere into hell yeah and so much lottery within maybe your uncle guy has cancer maybe he is getting dementia maybe he's getting a Roma to eat the threat is in psychosis and that and we think it's normal and it's sake so why it is so is it

evolution it could be the power thing the mind thing the mind is able to multiply and to duplicate and and and gain more yeah more energy over others and that's being done because of going outside of your brain and not going into it and we are still in this evolutionary

passage where we have to learn to control the mind know what the Bhagavad Gita set of two thousand or 5,000 years that we are already very simple and mind not under control is your worst enemy and in control serum it's your best friend so we are still into that that

now we are able to shoot people to the moon it's time that we shoot ourselves oh shoot I go for my happiness preferably health and my strength and be able as a mother to guarantee this for a child if we are able by University proof not little time

bigtime that every mother actually is able to guarantee health strength happiness or love it that's love non sentimental love then the war will go away because the war is all based on possession yeah interests politics bollocks and speculation and all that

but not about your home where we should be caring and sharing and as we are not able to have our security de we have to prove this by guaranteeing every person scientifically that we are able to tap into the physiology in a way to guarantee for every mother in the world

and that's what everybody wants the security to guarantee health strength and happiness so we go back to the love and then that's the most valuable and you don't need all these pearls in 10 cars and six houses and big buildings just have a nest that's beautiful Wow

wim HOF my good sir just what an incredible message and that you're spreading it I admire it and respect it so much and for you to be gracious enough to allow us into your hotel room and you're about to speak to you know four or five thousand different people I

thank you so much for you know your time your presence the work that you're doing and your energy and your fire and you know I understand now why it's called inner fire when where can people find your website where can people go to find more about your work edifier dot NL in

fire dr dot and now an l is for the netherlands you know in the name wim HOF method dot-com one half method calm and there is a free course and just get into it because we are into a inter sense common sense and a lot of love i love you guys love you

guys heard it here this is xavier katana with the human experience wim again thank you so much sir for making the time and your towel and your bucket of ice and love it man we'll see you guys next week