Episode 49 – Transcript – Kingsley L. Dennis



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to why because I wanted to learn about the world I was moving around so been fascinated by different cultures so my most memorable I think time was was the five years I spent to be stumbled and understanding around the aliens world and I realized that sociology especially I think the systems theory and and the system is ideal resolution I found that so well with some of the the Oriental teachings the streams brain fact I think Western science was trying to look at it from a different perspective so eventually I decided to to come back and after about teaching to really get into study of social systems are consciousness as human development evolution streams which more or less to our antedate that I love your your writing style cuts like a knife I just want to read the passage the back passage of of your book your the struggle for your mind within society there exists a silent war the battlefield is our everyday lives our education our work and leisure are emotional and spiritual well-being and our thinking and perceptions are very sense of reality is deliberately engineered to work against conscious evolution and preserve social norms in short we are all part of a war of consciousness and the opportunities at hand for us to win wow sounds good on paper yeah yeah I mean what motivates you to write about this type of subject will is Xavier I think it’s it’s the best will because element being done you that from a very early age I really sense that something wasn’t quite weight loss and that this thing that we call reality was not sense media so I think that she underlies all my of my searching is trying to to get and what set the course of it is really what we try to understand this human consciousness from the everything goes back to human consciousness the way that we perceive the world around us our beliefs sets really makes up world that we inhabit so you know if anyone around his believe something we tend to fall into that and it’s when you look into it effect so easy for conditioning both social conditioning of mental conditioning to take place in fact it’s always take since it seems the earliest days of civilization once you have civilization you have to have kind of consensus reality and quite exercises become you then have the hierarchy of leaders which then has to make sure that the masses the kind of fit into that system and so you have distinguished social engineering to get more to always been around us as far as is the thank you note Scott subject to consciousness and so really it’s it’s a science pretty so so the basis for our reality set so right is more malleable then has to taking credit for writing some of the menu science is coming out now without understanding of the quantum science is not the universe of emotion… To give us tools Root to understand how flexible a malleable reality singes both you know really controls how you think controls puts you put into your mind and friends of consciousness were verify have a great influence upon your reality is a simple is that you have yeah I mean you talk about able to talk about the illusion of freedom and how if a part of the prisoner never sees the bars and how can me know that there in a prison yet is that I was like to use is captivity because I think our productivity these days is so smooth is been engineered to be that we don’t notice it will we don’t was an empty seat because it’s a smoother ride to stay in the consensus reality you have and you and so we don’t wish to everything around us and we have is also part of how society is being essay developed if you wish to go back to Malta’s nuclear put the idea that people now can quiet the very things that once they produced and so we have to most material goods to keep is comfortable and before the age-old global information that was more or less enough window pockets of protest but it was enough to keep was into the system I think what’s happening now and as I outlined instrument for your mind the because when such a moment to bifurcation point of come in contention is because we are receiving so much more information which is showing is the bonds about present and that is upsetting you say the these stages core of our society is because when you beginning to see beyond the smooth captivity and in up that is in one sense tool for empowering people individually but it’s also true for rocking the boat and so I think in the used, and possibly a day in decades this this kind of melting pot of information communication technologies below information technology is human empowerment connectivity communication consciousness is really going to going over and no one knows what’s going up and that’s why it’s it’s exciting and also unstable times now wow I mean I I worked through this book and loved reading it and I just I just felt like you are on playing with everything you had to say in where where you think coming there there so me systems of control and you talk about misinformation that distraction me a technology mean how how wide and varied are the ways that we might not be in full control of our own minds and what effect is it having our own on our own caught conscious evolution will loaded? Is this is thing that affects our minds it doesn’t dozen old reason phrase epic says you know doing good is still agreed which means that is which we think are hoping this other things which may seem altruistic such as spiritual belief systems maybesystems which are still part of the problem with the in the past I think be it was quite sources of this controller much easier to spot take an example you societies it was much more a piece you kind of programming for example if the these citizen did something concrete to the Marquis to the government alternation that was busy be punished it could be tied to post in the square they could be put into into change they can even be guillotined all kinds of executed prolific and that give everyone wanting to stay in that place don’t mess with the system unique when we got today and I’m sure some probably like for people to oppose something that can you can’t get away with it you know so-called democratic societies opposite so it’s a much know so much more smooth way of doing it and we don’t notice and it’s kind of like function creep fiction to allow up message and and and everything from school to to everything our peers and him and I think one of the problems with having today I see around his is that one of the I think quite dangerous is spirituality itself and I think this is a point which is one point site is that there has been incredible commercialization of spiritual things even if we if we mentioned the New Age movement which was coming on the end of the great essay emergence of transcendental technologies and and pathways that came into the West up to second will that I think have become in a sense hijacks as well in and commercialized and in fact a lot of these spiritual technologies today I will see you as a way of kind of brain entrainment and and they are using the sins of cognitive science to try to get us to believe in so in some ways so in fact is not is not as clear-cut about what affects is on so in terms of the question you asked about conscious evolution I would say that goes back to something very very fundamental which is we have to trust our intuition we have to trust if I’m assessing Timothy Leary said that we will have an inbuilt Bluetooth detected started hiking was his crime to the cheeky chap you way of saying that we have these inbuilt of conscience intuition sharing which I I think is coming to a lot more especially in the younger generation today I see coming out because they’re less the generation are less easy to fall I think I’m they are questioning systems and authority in constructing so I think we have to go back 12 sounds really really in a quite a stock way and question everything that we believe in coming contact with and I’m trying to strip away a lot of old the package comes with living in a very dense rich and over flowing informationally one society Since it’s very intriguing been in the in the same book struggle for the clear mind you talk about mechanisms in the brain that are emerging that allow near genetic evolution that will help us throw off these kinds of mental prison mean what what is near genetic evolution how does how is a mechanism work and I mean how how can we free ourselves another loaded question for you is you like to request genetic evolution because I think we are learning a lot more about human genetics a recently and special without understanding the genetics that is that previously assigned told is that genetic differentiation all the segmentation of code of generations in the largest part of time by the devolution you recorded with the genetics we are learning that genomes can actually be influence and change within the lifetime and intergenerational which can also be passed on and so the question is what influences human genes and I think when I looked into it effect it it was a lot of the old wisdom traditions in the biophysics reason biophysics hasn’t as investigate how the bio photos are magic by our DNA and without physical souls and these phones a few AA ask like quantum field probably which is a way of information some information being passed intense you information field and so this by different to make field is also in residents to the pharaohs influences and such as that say Sam’s certain sound waves which would relate to the science of mantras and stickers certain spiritual techniques also: as well and so I mentioned for example about place which have a specific color orientations such as use of stained-glass windows in churches and also the colors on on in rooms and so sacred buildings have a certain note special structure and sacred to genetics which also can affect vibrations in the atmosphere so these things which we thought thousands perhaps being fringe sciences can have a very definite affect impact upon field and limited foods which are part of our DNA structure so if one goes into meditation you know with there’s been lots of research on e.g. brain scans about Halloween coming to entrainment synchronization operations but it wasn’t yet the technologies look how DNA fields are being affected but I do feel that these mechanics; that say spiritual says those meditation using sounds using colors which of been used for a using these wisdom traditions I can have a marked effect upon our genetic state so there’s a sense that we can coming to one of being called meta-programming inviting there was a sense and this was touched upon it in America 60s with scientist like totally what the isolation tanks again to look at this and then several of his mistake quit meta-programming psychedelics way that we can consciously try to work in programming the very structure develops something up and intelligence purchase human body that can work towards that say about opening up our own latent faculties and then capacities which it really is no already been out in the mainstream much Mean how would you there’s a subchapter in your book you talk about decoding the Armageddon mean and why do you think this 2012 sort of I mean it why is Armageddon and the obsession of with zombies and vampires and the end of the world why is that being said into the mass unconscious mind 2012 moment that was quite a spectacle and you know the day after think that was a lot of people sitting around thinking well what didn’t happen nothing you are not week that was in that mean you know and I think about when it came from of course we know the origin of 2012 the mankind and I think that has authentic base but like many things that are out in the public sphere the gets hijacked and we do have this comment in times of mentality WE have on in times of weakness you go back to the biblical talk of of the apocalypse how was people and so what it does is that it will select send us and fear is a great weakness it went it weakens our electromagnetic field that’s be verified to make his own immune system she being verified but also it allows in when you have a sense of fear that we need security so books of history when we don’t feel we haven’t ourselves we reach out to outside authority so it also puts us effectively a kind of disadvantaged and so the 2012 Armageddon mean was really to disempower his other troops and means which would trying to struggle through about 2012 will be open ourselves eccentrics it was a whole wave of disinformation which would I think the key being put into massive public consciousness so of course when he deflated and thing was that it kind of put us sort through whole thing them just said we know it was wrong is not going to be these these vibrations to fifth I mentioning up to be saved by people coming to to get the planet what you not going to use you and so in a way of people felt deflated quite depressed and when we know we want to go back and security status quote you know the story active in the book about note the weekend Pomona you know about how we are allowed to grant weekends and alcohol is legal a great time and’s to the time you know we we get completely your we have the a while our heads because the Monday morning with to go back to the status quote system because would happen you know that was the same technique which was used for example and slave plantations I did example from all the text from one of the free slave writers said that over the slaves were given money be used on the plantation shops that Time off such as Christmas the money was spent by rules whiskey And the slaves were allowed to have a blowout to get absolutely out of it for several days central the end of it that will want to get back into work to get together and how just one example I can was Frederick of the right to the verify that is a weekend Pomona that so that’s the substances on North American society because the ashes stimulate newsrooms stimulate our experiences and then was not we have a different reality perspective that isn’t good for going back into the system of the things that alcohol the job is some was wanting to this human biology and just had about over the years there is now because that it was a blog networks we want to go back system and more and so there are the things that is where very very intriguing I mean him they were covering a lot here very quickly I just I want to get into kind of winning the war and in you talk about there is nothing to fear and that me to you think that we will eventually win this this war but as I really don’t about that that for me something which I’m still to this field is why I often prefer to speak about this window will and out of old strictly online is the radio one that goes into the dark side of about manipulations and technologies that controlled the work that she examines the do I think the rise of human consciousness over that over the the the decades I mean notion of consciousness into the future so I definitely winning it because if you look again 20th-century looks like he’s been they this the century of the greatest will fact in terms of the landscape Innocenti with great exploration innovation and experimentation of this human in the landscape and not you know have the rise of that say transcendental technologies the rise of experimentation would was with the inner landscape in whatever form it may take we most haven’t told talk about because before let’s say psychoanalysis and formed in Jan right we didn’t have much was to talk about in the world have subconscious we haven’t is your ego so now what happens language with had a sensuous of spiritualism we now have scientist lamentably experiences in verifying this we have esoteric subjects which will belong to Mr. schools before and now publicly available literature is available talking about it but we have this conversation now we can talk about consciousness in a way that few a few decades ago on subjects we can talk about have not even talk about tonight is landscape of this human body has really expanded tremendously I think this is a sign that there is a different shift in human evolution which we couldn’t consciousness and so what is important now is that we we concoct in our evolution as a species in our societies and have more control of instead of being of evolutionary forces so now I think we come into a different plane and see what was going to do that plane for now is no less by both sides those who say in control of photosynthesis to ourselves to be you and technologies community that is what which is good be a major factor now this information so much experimentation shaman all processes coming together his groups helping you try that working without he is experimenting and ginning to get that I feel that there is a greater so weights communal now to to self-exploration which will that before we can win this mean all of your books seem to kind of from all around this mean in breaking the spell you talk about overcoming this social conditioning and this disconnection from University what we what are the some of the ways that you would say would be useful in helping someone trees themselves to connect to life more is the greatest to you, this to you start to be asking the right questions and asking questions be ready to you say we go to prison and Lucy the boss so the fasting to say that we realize that we are in a reality said that is socially engineered not be apprentice just that the ego at in its place you know we have to surviving these physical were I don’t I don’t support going into a cave in been we in this world is a certain amount of this condition around but it’s being away of the conditioning his and when it’s operate them just take a step back from but I think of those in the industry for your mind and in another work break and spell you mentioned talk about some techniques such as stepping away website we can learn to recognize what is distracting around us and to put down my back from that destruction know outage I gave is is a drowning person analogy is person is drowning in the ocean the first we actually have used to drop that it’s not that I’m trying to send and this drowning person is like society the detritus the distracting and if we go out and win not prepared drowning possible that once you and cost estimate reported to because the stroking and I think the social systems Australia you can see that because their trying to make so much noise to distract is because they know that you know the we see in the what we are the Emperor has no clothes making more noise but if we go with the New Orleans using we got with drowning persons they like to put down postcards say that you should trade because of going out that so I would say These these events these systems your attention because there addictive and we went we amount of stepping back putting about our minds going back to our attention away from the minds of what information we receive information programs this information that’s always negative that brings is down that poses in what information times a week using listeners out instant let’s use our lives how to detect and without those terms of information that we feel listening this know we have to be more discerning episode all that we were consumers concerns of information because information was one-way television. It is before that the radio. Axis now we can be proactive information is not one way it’s it’s noted we can go out there would just some of the information would process consumes any we could information and I think that we should take a much more active role about what we want to engage with what we want to receive you into us and led to step away and distance ourselves from the rest and I think we have to be more aware of this and aware of where our partridges line because what we take can’t will will be part about programming and we are not role and gender possibility to take out wow wow communicate as you your your words cut is much as you know these on your book in your book as much as in this interview and I love everything you’re saying do you feel as if I mean like you said when you see a person drowning and the tend to kind be in the sphere state and the bring you down with them and you feel like leaving a sort of solitary lifestyle as a cure for that everything everything should be taken in moderation anything extreme is not good for you if you have a headache you to submit okay get desperate hundred penicillins in other to wake up so everything is going be moderation if you feel you need a moment of of solitary piece take it thinks I think being alone and and and them having some something must is healthy you should not be afraid to be alone admission not be afraid of science because the world’s first checked guys I don’t think that we should be sort to our lives like we should last responsibility to make the choices when we need something like being a know and how much of it as a say in the next extreme anything with is good about his this is not used the work of what we need so what what someone else will work first solution we should understand speak to sometimes we may want to help someone but that moment becoming help because you know within the Internet in a state where they just don’t listen to is a letter resonate and if we stay with MDMA field of interest being drained so we have to be back at some people up our mission in the book that they can become like psychic vampires left in the way they may not mean it but they may be something just because they in a in a in a proactive states yet or state of relaxation so it wouldn’t agreed and then said okay that’s enough I need to step back and maintain my own state and develop don’t have to make some efforts to to come around to information and so so you know we have to be aware of our own state and take care of ourselves the same time you mean if you look the world and you look at the political landscape mantra for following what’s happening here in the states it’s kind of absurd is it having a if if you just look at what’s going on around us it it really does seem like we’re on the precipice of something else something you are not sure if it’s the end of an era or the beginning of new one it seems more like the beginning of you want but I mean what in what you think about that how do you think weird you think we are in this phase of human history and we are beginning all over and Euphrates and in in these in these phase transitions to use a term from Québec sciences and is will is a distance of information because these two systems only you are clashing again to give a visual example if you Stonehenge upon you get nipples.go out if so tombstones in the two sets of ripples was those when they need each other they have the interfere with the cash is ripples break up I think this is happening now is immune system is coming in both the human consciousness and into the social domain discussion with the old and so heavens disruption brain facts and in fact if you look at these these dynamics the dynamics okay also disruption produce energy which is in fact necessary for bringing new system this is this is this this type of Existence as she plays out in social systems in cellular biological systems as well and is is a basis of life and his energy is required except I feel that our descendents of the look back at this time and look at the work we been going through the time to going through and they won’t actually this is because important as the time that 20 moved from the front to the around us respect you because centers happening now and is times that we going through the civilization disruption not just capacity want all of Empire equal blanc empires I feel that the heart is open despite what may look like in world affairs systems I know financial systems rely on global trade you we have so many social systems tray systems documentation systems that if you know if one goes down over 60 of and so you know may seem in the critical systems is that the systems on this so-called democracy I know I’m not functioning and you know that they had their role in functioning so what we see on the television is that magicians like to have you create a destruction one area you don’t acting so well that’s so unfair holy you know the entrance and kittens of the world you know the pretty little noise in the trying to hide a broken system and what we know what we need to do is really that is been watching the debate solely on the arguments that he was called that we should be looking at the the people who are talking about what systems out there and I see smoke to the conversations from the younger generation. Very constructive about what up VERY beautiful systems you may have to wait a new generation for them to coming up but I wouldn’t take too much notice of the found for at you as a say you know don’t look at work person sex center actions and that is the normal headlights talk a little bit about your book Dawn of the Kaushik age what motivated you to write that yet that will I wrote in preparation with my calligraphy last and effect what came about was that had previously a book about 2012 about how did the change coming around 2012 not only only mean more of mankind was just we just playing to say system will be changing because know the brains of the upcoming it post music back to write a book about how systems be how will will be in 2020 and to suggest that using and year-to-date you know 2012 is forget 2020 rather than government-based think that’s a good is reached what changes can we how see happening in the world around you up around this this book and Ke$ha’s attempt to use before I refers to the fixed fee wishes of old defeated time you have you just talk about at birth want to fight for elements and the fifth element was a cash they said Ke$ha is what we call the quantum click to see the underlying field and so we want to look at how this understanding through science that we are part of a at eight quantum the entire universe that the world is intended and so many ways in like field fool that what happens is going to occur to were around the world that understanding is base happened see educational systems systems financial systems needing change in in an adolescent country civilization going through the birth pangs I was happening I sense that we are is it as a species towards what may become up for debate attempt a country civilization but how we get good be different met you I don’t consider the old are from stock I I I will will this kind collective you truly blind society writing that we going through four society based on diversity but based on it on a shared understanding of of consciousness about how we get there is going to be the decades ahead for us and out generations to come to to figure out and that’s probably the great evolutionary challenge for our species Bang on I love it and love everything up to say it may really seems like you kind of one of those hidden authors that that people have to kind look for and find and we now that if kind of found your material acts like soaking up in love it I want to talk about your book meeting Monroe because it seems like this book for you is the most powerful that’s what I got from that do you want me to kind of give a little passage that you write about it you once get into it is because it is very hot between it’s like I was there I was is going into here is a is a small passage is difficult to clearly express what happened to me over the period of several weeks it was both intense and surreal experience even thinking about it now has me had has me at a loss to give any credible explanation is pop probably best that I don’t try to define or categorize what in effect was a series of startling and profound encounters I have the feeling deep within that my meeting with the person” I came to know as Monroe was not an accident and wow that’s it sounds a mysterious I really want to know more years way it’s you know which for me to the hardest talk about because in fact is a book which I feel I didn’t write noticeable to be talk about ideas that I’m I’m trying to articulate with Monroe is most personable because it happened to me and my conversations with this person the right but was known to Ms. Munro in the ideas expressed work better powerful and the ideas are about more or less on the theme all ourselves as a species in our evolutionary journey and responsibility upon back and I Québec that will many times because 70 presages I don’t remember because I set i.e. I disseminated might talk them down I wrote them up might put them out but I feel like I they discussed through me but so many times in my writings to my talks I realized that in fact this is still talking Munro was coming through them is embedded in the pumps iPod touch starting date but I think there are times in our lives we have to often catches and they don’t Egypt and if we if we absolutely and I think the right time process that but that come up they become a part of my own journey is I’m trying to understand how can we use old consciously as a species activity individually and what that entails and how articulate that and where issue includes by out and the more I think we we tackle these issues and articulate then discuss them shadows and they impact our sector 16 impact how we perceive our environment our perspectives on the world and won’t stop to shift accordingly you know so much change can can occur from the inside out with means that we trigger if we take responsibility to think in a different way to speak a different way to engage in like a different way that the than lollapalooza perceiving the world around us DOS to shift and adjust according 12 suspected and I think that’s part of maybe you want to pretend universe will all of you matrix universe however was recorded we are in a participate to relationship with the world around so out deceptive says I will behavior I’m thinking that will his apartment things are slated so deceived won’t stop to change of mental apparatus and that that has a knock on effect with how we drop the world rounds we have to start somewhere beautiful I love it in Kingsley were were approaching the end here manifest is there you know is there one single thing through your writings are your experiences through your research that maybe someone who is listening to this show right now that you could kind deliver a message to them deserved something that you would kind of like to say say that if it was possible for me to have these journey is possible for any you know I came from normal family’s mortality New England and I just had a sense that I need to investigate things and everybody has to could lead to capacity anybody everybody can change anybody can start to evil that thinking passions is not that elitism is not is not in a locked away with do democracy real democracy is not in politics real democracies is in the evolution and spiritual realization that the self is open to everybody anybody has tools and I would say don’t believe what I say because belief is part of these were tokenize understanding go away do your homework think about things for yourself figure the map yourself because everything works differently for each person but if I can reach these thoughts and anybody can – and best of luck hello man where can people find your work see his wages to Google my name Kingsley Dennis because best with the usual language comes pre-search engine Google You Dennis I have a website www.KingsleyDennis.com I have a lot of information that I have a link to say skipping the menu bar I have maybe over 40 essays own downloadable free read that your browsing there are you have PS2 download’s income iBooks if you wish and them and enjoyed will material that I’m I’m I’m happy to make available Kingsley thank you so much for being your mentor really appreciated the book is called struggled the struggle for your mind is the human experience and we are getting it out here think it’s a pleasure


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