Episode #188 – Chance Gardner – Exiting the Matrix, Finding Solace in Peace, Realizing Our Oneness

foreign thank you thank you for you tonight if you're here with us to Bear witness live thank you so much we appreciate your presence live a lot many of you listen to the podcast version of this which is completely okay because I transcribed the magnetic

energy of what we're doing which is a sacred event into the recording of this because I do regard these events as highly sacred because they are so last week if you remember you were you were given a homework assignment and your homework was to do something

above and beyond for a complete and total stranger and then when they asked you would tell them that you would just pay that forward they would pay that forward that same level of kindness it's like the butterfly effect of kindness so did you do the homework last week

okay well if you didn't if you did great you didn't you still have time to do that because as I said ladies and gentlemen last week that our connection to each other is divine and in the last few years there have been forces that I've tried to

disconnect us from this Divine connection so I ask you to honor that let's build it let's start one block at a time and build it I said that I would talk about the state of the podcast a little bit what the podcast is great we're still ranked in the top 100 in the world

and we've got we're doing shows every week we've got a phenomenal lineup next next month next year but I really wanted to give an end this year with a bang with a very special guest for you tonight he's a friend of mine his name is Chance Gardner ladies and

gentlemen no no not yet but I'm your host Xavier katsani chance Gardner is an award-winning visual artist 3D animator composer and the writer producer of the cult classic documentary series magical Egypt and after a 25-year career producing for

major networks he moved into a different part of his life he decided that he wanted to produce this this aspect of uh an alternative view of hidden quote Forbidden Knowledge and so for mankind he wanted to explore this four mankind so a chance you know it's very unusual that

I have a guest back on so quickly and that's that's how much I connected with you and that's how much I think you have to bring to the table and I'm so so happy to have you here welcome to hxp chants thank you Xavier what an honor I had a great time last week and I do feel like

we have some important work to do yeah yeah we always do don't we I mean that's part of it I think that's that's part of our service to to mankind whatever you want to call it um it's it's important to do this work this type of work or where we're not

just discussing but also doing and yeah so okay chance I'm just gonna get right into the Nitty Gritty the juice of this all and I'm gonna present you I'm gonna present you with a thought experiment okay so I want you to pretend that I am an alien

species and I've come here from galaxies away and I've observed the planet for many years and the species chance God no we have come from many many galaxies away and we are here to decide the Fate of your species show me what you got so so chance what

do you what do you say to an alien species that is ready to hit cancel on Humanity because we've done so much to the earth that is maybe not good we've done so much to each other that is maybe harmful so what do you what do you say I would ask for some assurance that we

weren't in a simulation that we were doing in the uh damage at all secondly there's a part of my mind that would want to go behind the backs of humanity and make a bet with the aliens and then um sell out Humanity to win the bet to that South Park when the devil

and Jesus had a fight and the devil bed on Jesus and then won a bunch of money um so that's a very good question and I think about it quite a lot and it's a staple of Science Fiction of course and philosophy um and the kind of obvious superficial

answers are things for me I have to honestly say I cannot think of anything for quite a while that Humanity's done that I would hold up as a positive um it sure would seem to me like any outside objective uh Observer might view us as a kind of

cancer and um one of my favorite stories about Humanity in our seeming aloneness in the universe is that there's something about us that is so dangerous and so naturally Insidious that there's quarantine around us and that we're not allowed to leave and um I

cannot say that I blame people with our current colonizing mindset so I can certainly understand a reason why it might happen that someone says this experiment or this simulation is over until we can give you a reason to continue on um you know there's an

island in the Galapagos where they used to uh allow monkeys or take monkeys into certain kind of monkeys because it was very pure environment and there's a place called Monkey Island that was um you know way back when the behaviorists in The evolutionary scientist Darwin and

whatnot were studying evolution um they created this petri dish out in the out in the uh open ocean the series of sort of barren islands and introduced these monkeys the monkeys did too well the monkeys did so well that they took over the place and it's just teeming

thriving with monkeys but the monkeys became entitled on their Island and every time a sociologist would show up to visit the monkeys the monkeys would kill whoever showed up and so the island now is uh it's under quarantine no one's allowed to go and I suspect that maybe

our planet might be something very similar to that so if someone were to say you're going to end unless we you give us a reason I would have to hold up um our artistic contributions an assumption that the aliens have the same sensory inputs that we don't would

understand art the same as we did but I if you could the lyrical intelligence of Kurt Vonnegut the um kirvana get the amazing Immortal author from the 70s the songs of The Beatles songs of Laurie Anderson the books of Charles Bukowski are literary offerings are uh art our

artistic offerings there's something very unique in the human psyche I believe that we produce things that are Whimsical things that are distortions of Truth so that we can look at the universe from all of these different perspectives that aren't necessarily the

visually apparent perspectives more important than that so I would hold those Arts our artistic Expressions up uh our technological uh our technological accomplishment accomplishments are undeniable but almost always seem weaponized and just

about everything we've done in the tech industry seems to add a tick to the aliens argument that we should be put down but our artistic Expressions I think are remarkable but I just want to give you one more idea there's some some a lot of friends that we have because

the nature of our show that a new age or very on The Cutting Edge of things on The Cutting Edge Of The Human Experience and one of them said to me recently that there is something going on I love this idea I can't figure out how much veracity to put to this but

there are people around the universe there are entities around the universe that have a Keen Eye on mankind because we're just moving into this state where something's going to happen to us something fundamental is happening to humanity and it's so interesting that

the rest of the universe is watching us to see what's going to happen it seems like we're about to evolve into something that we've never been before and that the Universe has never seen before which is a very interesting thing like I want to be present to see what that is

and what I suspect I mean since I first heard this and again I want to say I don't consider this absolute truth but it was truly the most intriguing idea I've heard from last year and it has to do I believe if you had to pick like what direction can we go in that would be

interesting to other species and somehow um cause this radical change in the universe and what I believe is this we're just beginning to understand and perhaps we've always suspected reality itself we talk about realities being a simulation

there's an intelligent fabric to reality and it's receptive that we can plant seeds in and that one of the most horrible things that happened to us when we were physically severed from our past and from our traditions and from our owner's manual is that we lost this idea of

animism that everything is alive outside of us and somehow we very effectively been isolated and cut away from nature so that we're outside of nature we need to put walls up and put on clothes to protect us from nature and whatnot but then at some point in the past we were

an essential component of Nature and I believe that there's something unique about our Consciousness and our ability to visualize that once we remember that we are partners with this intelligent receptive fabric of reality we can start exploring this strange thing and one of

the things from your personal experience if you're that's happening to more and more people now is this new sense or this sensory this new mode of operation that happens that's fairly common in the Eastern world that through things like yoga and Tantra humans westerners um

who are absolutely unaccustomed to even thinking this way there's this new aspect of human consciousness starting to come online and we don't know so much about it in the west because it's not really part of our lexicon there's no cultural context for it but throughout

history there's all these references from all different cultures to the Kundalini process and these things that we can do to evolve into this higher state of consciousness and in the west it's fairly repressed and uh hidden from us and it's part of the reason why our

programming in magical Egypt is so controversial because we deal with the world that used to contain this magical thing it's still there and still available and the trigger for it is still placed in the center of every one of us and it's only because it's unfamiliar in

our society that we're not talking about it more because it really is it seems to be the most important thing that there is so much so that the rest of the universe is watching us to see how we react I agree with you I agree I'm sorry to bump you there I just I I

agree with you I agree with you most for the most part like I think I think that we are on this sort of cosmic trigger uh evolutionary cusp of transcending into a 5D perhaps realm and I don't mean to get like light cider with this I'm just looking at the different civilizations

that have existed through time you've studied them I've studied them the the Mayans The Vedas the Aztecs all of them the Egyptians they they all speak about this time they just talk about the Kali Yuga and the Mayans talk about this Pew that's why there was the whole 2012 myth

right like the the 2012 psyop you could say um and it was just it was this idea that the world would change completely and totally and the Mayans were actually even more on point with it they they understood that we line up with the the center of the middle you a Galaxy and

there's like this this photonic burst or charge that emits wow good on you emits it emits out and as it emits out we literally Ascend like that's what happens and so I'm sorry I was taking notes as you were talking so I was running out of places to put notes so I'm like okay I

have to bump him now but but I I also agree with you in the in the idea that um we do hurt the planet in a way that is wrong and like if you've like chance have you ever been you know you've traveled internationally like you know how they they they meticulously check

you if you have like plants or like a lizard or something like that you're carrying into South America and if you look at what happens when there's cross species contamination um this this species when it enters this new habitat it will decimate that

habitat completely because of its genetic advantage there is the most amazing song it's always been one of my favorite songs it's a song called humans from Earth by Tebow and Burnett and it's a song about humans out in the universe colonizing

and we always say the same thing you're going to want us there believe me we have this crazy little thing we call TV do you have electricity and we are there to consume the resources of all the other planets around us a hilarious song has very much

to do with colonizing and our feeling that we are right to that we're right to colonize which is you know Highly Questionable at best there was a book when I was young and uh I it originally was a short story and then turned into a book it was by a gentleman named Paul

Anderson p.o.l Anderson and it's a book called brainwave and what it is is kind of modern retelling I didn't know the story of the zabalba twins that you just mentioned until much more recently in my life that when I was quite Young I read this book and it was literally

the story of the sabalaba twins only told in a more modern metaphor that there is some kind of emission some kind of light or ultra light or some kind of whatever it is that the carrier mechanism for Consciousness there's something that is emitted from the

galactic center and if you look at the whole mechanism that we're in the earth Bobs from below the galactic plane in the middle of the plane to above and below and above and there's certain times where our geometry relative to the center of the Galaxy we're in direct

line of sight with these emissions from the center of the Galaxy so the point of this brainwave thing was that It Started from the perspective of a rabbit who just got caught in a trap and suddenly the rabbit remembered the series of events that led to him being trapped and

he figured out how to undo this mechanism and then it goes to something else and something else and basically what it was was as Earth moves around the galaxy The Milky Way galaxy we moved through periods of Greater and uh greater and lesser electrical

conductivity we moved through vast stretches that are elected electric electrically dampening and during those times you know 2 600 26 000 years at a time in some cases brain activity is prevented and stultified because of these dampening fields that we move

through and then suddenly the Earth moves out of these dampening fields and our electromagnetic brain suddenly you know triple in capacity just because of the ambient conditions like if you're a flower and you were born under a car and that car was constantly casting Shadows

on you and never let you see the sun um then the car was moved suddenly you're gonna have this radical growth and it's going to seem like almost an evolutionary shift for you but an interesting idea that ambient conditions would have a huge effect on our

intelligence our intuition and the functions of the brain and if you understand the way conditions change as we go around this giant wheel every 26 000 Years Around the Milky Way galaxy uh you can see that there's periods greater and lesser growth and so the

yugas like you were talking about were in the Cali Yuga right now the only good thing about the Cali Yuga is that we hit our bottom our lowest point we bottom out as alcoholics say we hit rock bottom and then you start bouncing back and the

fun of humanity is that rise again where we start to remember all these things about ourselves that somehow we forgot in the Dark Ages hmm let's try the answer shorter I literally have a I have an egg timer in front of me okay cool I'm glad I'm glad um uh no I

mean I there's so much to say there's so much to say and and I I think you know in the last three years there has distinctly been a sort of uh burst wave of of something that has has caused more people to start asking questions wonder why and wake up and it happens and

that's what the people we've talked I'm sorry but as you know we've started but you and I both have started to experience this exponential increase in people having this experience this Kundalini event and uh most of them because if we know them they're

westerners they have no context for it but there seems to be something in the ambient circumstances that we're in that's causing this um evolutionary shift in Consciousness among certain people and so it's very interesting that whole zabalaba thing twin the whole

Isabella twins thing it's in the um if you read the very few remaining Mayan codices it talks about the zabala twins are these either a binary star system or something at the center of the Galaxy and one of them is a black hole and the emissions from this black hole

apparently are extremely impactful on human consciousness and so we're starting to feel it and there's something about the amplification of Consciousness that seems to lead to these Kundalini events as well so I feel like we might all be looking to the east this was in fact how

the book ended that everyone ended up realizing wow the Hindu Vedas and the Buddhist writings have had this secret road map all this time and for some reason the West buried it so we didn't know what was about to happen to us but people like yourself Xavier were

bringing and I'm certainly devoted my life to doing that um there's a certain dignity in privacy in keeping new things to yourself but there's also a time when it's appropriate for good citizens like you and me to start telling people this strange new truth

that the rules are different and the potentials a door is open and there's potentials at our feet that are going to be amazing if people learn how to pick them up yeah hopefully soon we'll need a galactic positioning system instead of just a global like I I'm ready to evolve

past this place like I'm you know I'm at a point where I'm like okay like I've soaked the experience that I want up and I I want that self-realization within my lifetime and I want to break out of the quote Matrix or whatever it is the the reincarnational loop and and that that

seems to be a big part of it you know there's you can go into different stories about the so-called white light or whatever and and but there and and then we can talk about archons if you want like I mean there that perhaps there are these sort of half Gods

demigods that maybe feed on our energy our emotional energy all of it you know um uh Monroe talked about it he he mentioned it as a loose I'm sure you've heard and so I mean what's your what's your stance on on that aspect of things as far as like okay we're here and there

are these other there are these there are these other beings there and you know how do you think that interplay is working out uh some of the most interesting writers there's a lot of people out there who will love Carlos Castaneda um myself George gerjeff

um after my you know time with John John was such a fanatical George gergier fan there's so many different cultures that talk about this and oddly enough a lot of them use the same phrase the horror of the situation there was a moment in the Don Juan in the Carlos Castaneda

books when Don Juan is talking to his initiate and he's kind of skirting around the subject and he brings up this thing called the horror of the situation um gurjeff brings up the same thing in a different context that if you be careful when you start studying and looking at

reality because there's a very comforting Veil drawn over this awful truth that we might be here as the harvestable fruits we are here basically what we do to chickens and cows we keep to feed off of them there's a really compelling line of

tradition that we are food for a higher being and so um you know you see these things on DMT you see other entities people talk about archons there's a story so basically these things hate us and either keep us for food and feed on our misery

there's a lot of different Traditions uh that have some compelling evidence for that and there's another thing that is related to this it goes all the way back to Samaria and some of the earliest writings um I'm not I love zechariah's kitchen

when I was nine or 10 or 11 years old but as I get older there's some critical cracks in his you know his journalistic um and there's some things that make it a little bit squirrely but in his uh basically the problem with sitchin is that nobody else that speaks Sumerian

will agree that he's translating these things correctly so it's hard to know exactly what's going on there but um one of the stories that's been around uh from the very beginning in fact there's this amazing author Robert Lawler who used to live with Vanessa and I for a

while he wrote about this quite a bit too that all of these ancient Stories the beginning of cities in the beginning of human civilization in this line of looking at things came when aliens came down and and some people say they were trying to civilize us other people say

they're trying to harvest us but in Lawler's book and then a couple of other um places that explore these old traditions the reason that the cities had these big walls on them was to keep people in that was the first people Farms that cities have always been farms

for people and any anarchists knows get the hell out of the city if you want any kind of Freedom or autonomy or dignity but um this idea all the way back from the Sumerians they would talk about Inky and in little and the um siblings of theirs and the people who uplifted

Humanity at the very beginning for you know kind of selfish reasons that whole story is the thing all unto itself the Legend goes that they uplifted Humanity by uh modifying our DNA so that we'd be just smart enough to work in the gold mines so that they wouldn't have to

but part of that tradition is there's something about our thoughts and the way it's described in Sumerian is that people were loud people were too loud and raucous and the gods couldn't get any sleep and so the gods want to kill Humanity just like we might want to kill

our neighbor's dog it's a way it can barks all night and so a very interesting thing that uh the concept that in the Spheres the reason I bring this up is anybody who's done DMT or mushrooms or anything occasionally you have these moments where your psychic

field will overlap with something that's not necessarily in our exact Dimension and so you end up psychically communing with these things that are so strange and so in the human but for some reason our sphere of Consciousness just like if you had a really powerful radio ham

radio or CB radio you're overlapping with other people's transmissions and occasionally you can interact with these bizarre non-corporeal beings in certain states of psychedelics that cause certain brain waves that allow you to do these things

and so when you overlap in these things you can kind of hear their thoughts and they can hear your thoughts and when you have these moments you really understand those stories that the Sumerians were saying that the gods hate people because

they're making so much noise that the gods can't relax and so they kind of understandably like imagine if you couldn't turn your TV off and you were receiving all the TV signals all the time and it was just Gilligan's Island all day long and you're trying to

solve a problem and the professor is building a radio on the island and it would drive you insane you know yeah and so um and there's one more idea that I wanted because I love this I love this topic okay there's an idea called botritus there's something that we do

intentionally to grapes to give them this horrible disease it's like rape cancer or grape AIDS but the result of this uh disease that the grapes get is that they put over produce sugars so they make this beautiful dessert wine that doesn't happen normally in nature

but we intentionally give the grapes this disease because we feed off of the produce that this disease makes and it's an excellent excellent allegory for this system of society we seem to be in that specifically designed to create maximum misery so that these things that eat our

pain and that's why the wars have to happen with some regularity that they get hungry they get tired of a nibble and they want to feast and there's times every you know whatever 20 25 years 100 years that all the society devolves into the purge into this kill Fest yeah we

have to laugh at it we have to not at the whole scope of all of it you know everything we've studied and absorbed and and you're right ignorance is bliss but but it gets boring after a while you know and and eventually you start digging into some forms of knowledge and

and we we seem to each go through this sort of uh right of passage you know it's like it's like this The Rite of Passage through understanding different philosophers different philosophies different ideas different concepts then and uh you know and then

we end up at a point where like okay we're here now but I I think I think chance that our thoughts matter our thoughts are so crucial and I'm interviewed scientists that can put science on this like Dean Reagan or Dawson Church there's a few other

scientists that that have done work to prove that our thoughts create reality literally manifest and create reality and so so I think I think these beings um what they what they are the most afraid of and why the propaganda and everything is so necessary is because

they're so scared of us figuring out that through Union and through connectivity through peace amongst ourselves we have immense immense power to create reality right um speaking of that severe let me do something let me turn the tables on you

for a minute and ask you to do a homework thing okay it's just a thought it's another thought exercise okay it seems the tables have turned Mr Bond um here is what it is what would you do if suddenly you were in on this secret that you had a different relationship

with the intelligent fabric of reality than you thought and that you were to realize that all of society was there to keep you from realizing that you were a god essentially or that you could make a deal with reality so that the things you wanted the most would happen what would

you do if we were really here and the entire universe was watching Humanity because we're about to do something that changes the universe what would you do how would you use that power once you discovered it so think about that remember to talk about at the end of the

show or maybe it doesn't need to be said but so I mean I just so I want to understand I under want to understand the thought experiment like if what would I do with the the knowledge of that power your ability what would you do if you understood that whatever you

projected into reality would happen I I mean I feel like it's a big exercise because you're damning Yourself by thinking small like maybe we just have a small window of opportunity to absolutely change everything anyway I don't want to answer for you no I I I I

want peace like I think I think for me I think in my heart is um when other people are happy when my friends are happy it that in turn makes me happy and so when I I'm a very empathic person so I think I think that when when I see other people feel pain I

don't like that and you know I think I think this system that we've been sort of conditioned to be in and the nine to five and all these things that's not what being human is like we Are Spiritual Beings having having a human experience but but but life is not your

nine-to-five job I mean yes you have to do that to survive that's what they tell you but but I think it's so much more than that it's the dimensions of experience they there's so much it goes so much deeper and so I think I would give people the ability to be liberated from

that condition brilliant I mean there seems to be an active um one of the things about the West uh the United States in particular they say was a sociological petri dish it was really one of the first times that we that people were allowed to grow outside

of the suffocating influence of the monarchy or a hierarchy where you know if you were in the same room with Prince Charles Prince Charles would get a very different bit of attention than you would and there's something built into this idea of a hierarchy that

some people are just better than others which most people have a really hard time swallowing up and part of the things that they do to perpetuate this idea that some people live in absolute unfathomable wealth and opulence and other people live in dirt

and they're eating crap all day long um the idea that that is normal is perpetuated and there is this whole body of knowledge that was written about very brilliantly by Machiavelli in his book The Prince about how do you hold on to power and the reason the way you do it

is you keep everyone else disempowered sure take away their identity take away their hopes take away humor if possible I don't know if you've noticed there's a war on humor there's a war on sexuality either so everything that makes us there's a war on everything that makes

us human there's a war on war there's like all we know is war there's a curation of reality there's this reality that we live in cuts off very much like if you were a chicken and you were on a chicken farm there's painting on the wall that makes

it seem like you know out of chicken cage sometimes they'll paint a blue sky and they'll paint a beautiful pastoral scene on the wall of a chicken coop and then the chickens are still in cages but they get to look up at this beautiful mural and it's very much the condition

we're in now and imagine in this metaphor that the chickens all can fly but you just want them not to remember that they can fly because you're making money off of keeping them trapped there and so you've created this artificial reality this artificial Paradigm that

there's no mention of famous flying chickens from the past there's no mention of the chicken's eye view from a hundred thousand feet that these ideas of autonomy and these ideas of flying have been completely withdrawn from chicken Society so that they make better

you know better harvestable harvestable walking Meats and it really is the sense that we have now that somehow we've been prevented from understanding something fundamental about ourselves and in the magical Egypt series we come to the conclusion I mean it

really walks up and punches you in the face that climbs up your nose that there's an owner's manual for Humanity there's this Timeless ageless incredibly old owner's manual for the human psyche and the schematics of Consciousness and even schematics of the exact brain parts

that give rise to Consciousness or allow us to participate in Consciousness and for some reason these have been very carefully weeded out of our culture so that we don't know that there's all these extra things about ourselves we don't even know there's an owner's

manual that like what have you ever bought an appliance that didn't come with a five-page owner's manual up in your head you have the most complicated Machinery that's ever existed and you're born into this world with virtually no guidance nobody told you yeah there's

parts of your psyche that you don't even know about you might be able to travel in time you might be able to fly but it's better for us if you don't understand those things about yourself and and so our past has been stolen from us and our reality is it's presented to

us is not correct and so once you start studying these things especially when you look at ancient ancient civilizations they celebrate and worship and immortal realize these things about ourselves that we've been trained to believe don't even exist

yeah chance that's that's so beautifully stated that that our past has been stolen from us tonight the it's that past knowledge of of what we are and who we are and as not just not just these bags of meat but like these Spiritual Beings that are infinite and dimension

and you know if you've if you've ever explored uh you know through Ayahuasca DMT um there's there's no there's no I don't know what that was guess I don't know what that was but I'm sorry there was a loud noise there on your own chance but anyway so are you still there

by the way if the apocalypse comes I'm one day ahead of you so you can hear me burning and writhing and like the blast the atomic blast you'll hear it and you'll be able to prepare for it it's like a public service it completely took me away from my train

of thought like I'm so sorry go try it again okay so um you know just that this spiritual identity has has been purposely hidden from us and when you when you experience something like Ayahuasca DMT that allows you just to drop the veil it doesn't it's not really

doing anything other than just giving you access to yourself because all this stuff is capable you can do this through meditation you can just do this yourself anytime that you want you could sit down and meditate and go into a trance and find this out you don't need DNT but TNT

makes it it gives it a little bit it turns it up by maybe exponentially and you know but when when you go into a deep deep experience like that and when you when you become like a galaxy with an arm your arm is like the arm of Galaxy or or you're you're folding

between the the layers of of space it's uh and then you know and then sometimes I've had those sessions and I come back to myself my my body and I'm like oh my god what the f I've got a body like what what am I doing here and you know so it it's it is intriguing

there's there's a lot to be said about unlocking and beginning maybe perhaps chance that's our test maybe that is our kind of mission while we're here is to remember with what's been taken from us exactly and a big part of that I think we've talked about this before there's

so many different secret and fraternal societies that there's a stage in that word and it's very secretive but there's stage in that work where suddenly you find out all your previous faces and all your previous names and one of the things certainly that's been taken away

from us in Western culture is the idea that we might be an eternal Consciousness and we move through a section of physical vehicles and um that's a pretty important thing to know uh much easier to bully and terrorize someone if they're afraid of

dying when you get to that Obi-Wan space where you're aware of yourself as a continuity of Consciousness and that any individual you know it's like stealing one of my shoes if you take this body down I'll come back I'll come back again in a better funner Farm it's an

interesting thought and it's one of the ways that they've always used to scare us and Bully us and you know the whole idea of martial law is the idea that I am my body and if I'm not then I'm a much harder person to govern and I'm going to be getting up to

a very different set of activities during the day yeah I mean a chance something that I see everywhere all around us is like distraction destruction distraction destruction destruction Elon Musk something over here over here over here and it's all around us and like well

people don't what I see in my experience what people don't see is that it's not out there it's in here it's like it's inside yourself turn inwards turn that awareness wow inwards in through meditation and align with whatever is going on on a cosmic trigger level

because this is the time this is why we're here we came here to witness this and to experience this and if you really want to understand that then just I mean I tell this to people all the time but just meditate just turn it inwards and put that Focus inside yourself

if you're trying to understand that it's all A Clockwork mechanism and that you're one of the gears you're essential to this you might be God you might be God I mean worst thing about being God is the unbelievable boredom and wouldn't you want to like how often do you um stop

doing what you're doing and go to the theater it doesn't even exist anymore but you turn on TV and you escape by watching Forrest Gump or something just for a small period of time you become Forest company you forget who you are and you forget the miserable realities

of your boring existence and you become you know Indiana Jones or Forrest Gump for a minute and I I have to believe that whatever the ultimate sentience is at the very top of the hierarchy the the undifferentiated Primal consciousness of the universe

one of the basic functions of Consciousness is to get bored and so you might like the king who dresses as a villager and wants wanders around the village you might be God savior you might be God watching your and part of the fun is that you have to trick

yourself into not remembering who you are because it's no fun when you're watching a film and you can't get invested in the film because you know how it ends so you might make a deal with everyone around you don't tell me don't remind me I'm in a movie until the

movie's over yeah yeah it's exactly like Santa Claus except you all of us we are God we forgot we forgot that we entered this sort of video game and it's so realistic that we we feel like it's oh this is real this is real but but actually dude you're just having an

experience you're probably plugged into some computer interface somewhere and when you come out of it you're gonna be like oh my God it's so obviously of course yeah you know and so it it just it I don't know a chance it's a sometimes it you know I'm I'm closer to

the truth than others you know like and I wanted to ask you like what do you suggest like I feel there's a lot of people out there that that feel doubt I mean there's because it's all around so we're told broadcasted like and they live like there's this broadcast of fear

and doubt and like dark stuff and and like I'm so tired of it I don't wanna connect to that Vibe at all you know so I mean what do you do one of the things that really helped me did they say consider the source or Marshall mcluhan said the medium is the

message when you look around at all the input sources in your life and some of them are beautiful some of them are like flowers some of them are like beautiful literature and there's other mouths in your life probably the ones that are closest to you they're poisonous and

destructive and depressing and disempowering and what you realize is damn near anything that has a glass screen on it this portal to God knows where there's a message that comes in that's pure poison it's pure horrible adrenaline and fear and it's the I mean

I I feel we were talking about this because I spent I'm a child of the media I spent 20 years working in network television and I was partly responsible for the Web of Lies that we consider to be our culture consider what voices in your life are producing what messages

and it's entirely within your capability to get away from the computer get off of um social media stop watching TV just do it for a day go out in the woods go out somewhere where only your ideas are allowed to be in your head and when you realize that there's this external voice

that keeps pumping poison and disempower disempowering thoughts and anger and pettiness pumping those things into your head possibly for those reasons that we talked about to create pain in your life that they can feed off but even if that's a just a weird thought exercise

if you just consider in your life and even in your head you know we have three separate brains that are completely different people in our head and so one voice tells you you need to be thinner and another voice tells you goddamn go get one of those steaks that we had last

night and that champagne's not going to drink itself my friend and you have all these contradictory voices in your head and understanding that select which inputs you you're the curator you're the curator of your own head you know how you go to a party and

everyone's wearing the same clothes because they all shop at Target or whatever and you are the curator of what's inside your head you're the designer of the curriculum of your life and most importantly you're the guy that gets to you're the moderator to use a

broadcasting you get to decide what voices to mute and you start to realize all the voices are remarkably consistent so if I just find that voice that's telling me to hate people or telling me to fear or telling me to whatever be afraid of something so that they can

sell me something um you know and the more time you spend well this is what you'd said to start with the more time you spend curating your own garden inside the more you realize I'm not letting any knitwit or any insane person dictate what's in my head and so the very first

thing you do is understand that you have a direct main line of poison coming in you through organized official media yeah I love love your idea of just unplugging disconnecting for one day even if it's for an hour just disconnect leave your phone go to a spot in nature

and just just absorb that just feel that it's addictive in a way that there's no words for I mean I can't even maybe those words have been withdrawn from our lexicon so we don't understand it but it's just like eating live food for a day you will not believe how everything

changes when you get away from that horrible voice of poison and then like you said I mean it's it's just hidden from us just enough and it's like there's a there's a lit very thin layer that we just have to kind of we have to choose to walk through and that's

something else I wanted to bring up to you in this episode was just the the concept of free will because this seems to be a a universal law a hard law that nothing can can impede on our Free Will and you can think of ideas why that's true but but it so it becomes your

choice your choice when you choose to move in a certain direction with your life or when you choose to pick that negative voice then that's that's your choice that's that's your experience another thing to constantly be watching for a lot of people understand this

about the education system and I think we all know teachers that are really good people so I don't want to paint with too broad a brush here but there seems to be something about what's what the education system is evolving into that speaks to this fundamental war that

happened in the like 1910 19 um even before that 1870s on there's a whole group of scientists called behaviorists and if you think of like maybe philosophers or there's I don't know what the name for the contrary Camp is but the idea that people are these

magical unlimited beings who can do anything once they set their mind to it and so the importance of education is that you're only limited by your the limits of your education and the limits of your IQ which might be Limitless depending on what kind of

educational system you follow the opposing idea to that is actually the idea that seems to have taken hold that education on one hand but then there's this dark science of behavior modification which is really horrible things like hypnosis or programming

psychic driving or just bombarding someone with propaganda Sigmund Freud's daughter Anna Freud who you know obviously Anna's never going to grow up to fill the footsteps of her father but and she was a nut by the way imagine being Sigmund freuded to

death that your father was Sigmund Freud so she was a nutcase by the time she grew up there's some really interesting stories there but her whole therapy she had these two schizophrenic children that were her patients oh no and her plan was she devised this entire

artificial reality even having fake newspapers printed and I think these were obviously the days before television but nowadays you would have specific television shows created for these people that you're trying to modify their behavior and her idea was let's modify the

reality bubble these people are in and maybe that will and I'm sure she drove the kids insane and they ate each other or something I mean I'm sure the experiment was a horrible um but it seems to be scaled up and is being put out on all of us now that

every time you turn on the TV you see this artificially curated world that only exists in the television yes and there's some kind of I don't think it's for our own good I think it's more to constrain and homogenize our behavior and our responses just yes

statisticians like that insurance companies like that yeah Commerce loves it and so um that the behaviorist idea like if you shock a mouse enough you can modify his behavior behavior modification by punishment or by ridicule everybody who's been to school

understands that kind of thing but you know police and bullies and everybody that is evil tends to use negative reinforcement to modify your behavior and you can get a person to do it's it's unsettling how programmable we are that little creep you've all um that works

for the world economic Forum that says we're just stackable machines yeah you're only understanding one half of the carrot you know how one care half of the carrot sticks up above ground and one half is underground there's a massive ocean of substance to people

that doesn't exist on the Physical Realm but somehow the behavior Behavior modifiers Behavior modificationists whatever you want to say um have grabbed onto the part of us there's very programmable so all these mechanical ways of forcing Behavior are

that's the society we live in now and we're very few of us left with the freedom to become whatever we're going to become sort of like in a guard you know you pull the weeds that aren't the ones you want there and these weeds might be incredibly valuable or

necessary for the ecosystem but you're like no I don't want those I just want roses I only want you know whatever no I was just gonna say I was just going to say just I mean we can like that of all the stuff you're talking about was years ago but we can just look at the

last three years what's happened yeah look at how much it's caused and disconnection in in our our fundamental most basic human thing is that we are social animals that we we need that that touch we need to feel and be seen and be heard and that's part of you know you

can go into Maslow's hierarchy of needs it's a part on the pyramid so if you go talk to a traditional doctor they don't even acknowledge that you have an energy body like Western doctors are so dismissive of the whole Eastern and it's not like they're 10 000

years older than us and maybe they know something we should acknowledge Western science is like nope that's ridiculous because we don't already believe it it must not exist and so there's um yeah we are actively being prevented from understanding a giant part of ourselves

by a group that doesn't even acknowledge that we have an energetic body uh and that we need we have these kind of non-physical nutrition so this is the important of Aesthetics and the importance of going to a museum the importance of being around little kids

there's this nutrition that only comes through Beauty and Aesthetics the good the true the beautiful is the Freemason say are these three really important kinds of aesthetic nutrition and part of behavior modification is to remove you from all your grounding

remove you from Comfort remove you from familiarity remove you from having allies absolutely to restrict your ability to organize like that was basically a uh it became illegal to organize and to share your thoughts with others Venetia and I were in Australia

when this happened and there was this insane woman who just absolutely unqualified but was put in charge of the health quote unquote of all of Australia and one of her big ideas for winning cobit was don't talk to each other in the stores if you see people you know

out in society don't talk to them because that spreads germs and you very quickly because a lot of these people were extremely low IQ just bumbling idiots who are part of this behavior modification program they weren't smart enough to introduce the lie and keep

pretending there wasn't a lie and so it became very clear that it's this isn't about a virus this is about a war and energetic war and then atomization of the individual for this restructuring of society that I'm not looking forward to seeing how that's going to turn out

yeah yeah and it's it's ongoing the story this story is ongoing and I think we're out of part of the chapter where we got a little bit of a pause but you know it is it is almost New Year's Eve and you know it is a kind of a sacred day in the human story I think I

think we are I think we are here to witness all these things just happening and so I you know I I'm curious to see what the next uh piece of theater that appears is and that that should be interesting and I think I think the the fundamental thing that we need to hone

in ourselves is is that connectedness is that that just meditating 10 minutes a day go out into nature 10 minutes a day how much how much ever you can you should do yep a lot of really interesting people and cultures say that we're three brained

beings that we actually and there's a lot of different ways to slice this up that you know we actually have two distinctly different brains with our two hemispheres and then your brain stem your body your nervous system that all kinds of brains there are all these

coexisting brains that we have and we've been relegated to only using this one brain the daytime regular Consciousness brain but uh there's a funny thing I'm you know being a creative myself and having been in entertainment my whole life I'm always

marveling at the Zeitgeist the collective Consciousness and how there's things that Society hasn't collectively acknowledged yet but they keep come they keep bubbling up from the depths of you know the creative subconscious and one of the ideas is

this ideas of superpowers or cities and we like when you see Harry Potter we just react to it in this way like oh my God that's true but I'm not allowing myself to know that that's true and one of the tropes that come from like X-Files things in superhero you know

Marvel Comics is that sometimes for your superpower to become apparent you have to be put under an incredible amount of stress you have to be in a burning building or whatever and so sometimes you think that when I say Los Angeles I used to hang out with the Freemasons a

lot more and one of the things we used to infuriate me like infuriate me from when I was talking to the high-ranking uh Masons was that I'd get all alarmist about these Trends in society and they refused to get flapped about it because they would just look at me and

smile like I was an idiot which I probably am uh can just say look there's a bigger there's a bigger force and there's lots of times where it seems like chaos and we're heading down a terrible tragedy just sometimes you turn the steering wheel left sometimes you

turn the steering wheel right to get to where you're going but there's much smarter Minds in charge of governing this bush trimming the bush of society and don't worry about it because it's going to be there's going to be times of turbulence and Times of reorganization

and they're so calm I used to infuriate me that they didn't get caught up in my anxiety but they were very calm about you know everything's under control everything I'm just I just want to keep track of the times I know your time is limited

and that there are a couple things that I wanted to ask you about so I I apologize if I interrupt you um I wanted to I wanted to ask you I'll just keep talking by the way I'm like okay I want to ask you about Altered States Of Consciousness I I want you to

I want to get your perspective of Altered States Of Consciousness through time like I know there was like the ellucian mystery schools and a few other Mystery Schools back in the day like during Comet and ancient Egypt and and now there's even mystery schools now

but but um how how have you seen it evolve through time and what are the different types of mystery schools that you know about there are so many there's so many now I'm right now let me say in advance every one of these things I mentioned there's going to be

somebody out there that hates it and says this is of the devil and this is a great way to get possessed or whatever that there's people who are able to be alarmist at almost everything and that's part of the reason why these things are so pure and undiluted because if you put

a scarecrow out in front you keep most of the dullards and the dimwits away that's the point of a scarecrow to scare away lesser life forms and uh if you look at these things with some generosity of spirit you'll find that there's incredible there's a reason why

they exist there's an absolute fundamentally important reason they exist but any organization is susceptible to poison into rod and you know from the Food and Drug Administration to the FBI to the police there's literally no organization that

hasn't been it's still trained taking back the ancient times and tell me about how pure they were and how beautiful they were please it may turn out there was never a time when there was initiation without somebody standing there charging you to

get in and selling you swag and stuff but one of the reasons I think where we're drawn to the old mystery Traditions uh and there's some indication that as long as people have been around these mystery Traditions have been there there's a weird bunch of

um very provable uh historical literature that when the uh Spanish conquistadors got to South America the Mayans knew all of these Masonic hand signs and they knew these symbols from classic masonry and the Conquistadors could not believe the degree of

organization of the initiatory uh institutions here so the idea or the word initiation means you've begun something it has this Association of like Paul on the road to wherever Damascus scales fall off of your eyes suddenly you see this thing that's in

front of you that you've never seen before and it's a moment of initiation you went through one recently when you told me about your recognition that the snake in the tree in the Garden of Eden was Kundalini allegory yeah and it absolutely is the most fundamental story

in our Christian tradition is the story of a snake in a tree you know the synapses that go up into your brain is shaped like a tree and snake in the tree of course is a classic reference to Kundalini and the eye opening like the thing that God

didn't want is for you to become as intelligent as him so he gave you this admonition do not go down this path that will result in your eyes being opened so once you go through an initiatory practice people will frequently take a new name because their old self is dead and

they've been reborn and it's a part of the significance of the allegory of the Virgin birth that you literally are reborn or this higher part of you is born from this rotten putrid husk of a physical body and that uh so that's the reason why

people will take on a new name when they've gone through an initiation when you um do DMT that's a kind of initiation when you're we've talked about this before your pineal gland produces DMT yeah DMT can be an instant initiation the whirling nervishes which

are a much later um uh let's say a product or an example of the Saruman Brotherhood the sufis the sufis are an interesting ancient kind of more Persian um Arabic secret society there was the traditional Egyptian initiations all of Egypt basically is this manual for how

to go through initiations I would say The Vedas in Ancient India and ancient Egypt are very similar in that there was this self-initiated event that you could cause to happen in yourself that all of these things you know there's millions of different names but they all

basically have this same sort of self-initiated psychic Evolution that you go through usually as a result of this Kundalini experience so ancient Egypt all of the Asian cultures I'm in Thailand right now where Thailand's never been colonized I think it's the

only place in the world it's never been taken over by someone else and part of colonization is you get your connection severed to your past and yeah nobody's ever done that to Thailand so they're it's Kundalini World here every Temple has rising and descending snakes and

everything is third eye symbolism and it's all right here um so initiation in a way might be thought of as like a Viagra for this non-physical part of your body and it like at this moment when you're 14 and you didn't realize that you know you have

this whole different set of uses for your sexual organs sure and suddenly they stand up and call attention to themselves and you're like what the hell is that what's going on there and suddenly you've opened up to this entirely new set of agendas and

possibilities and things that you're going after because your life's changed so it's very much like a spiritual puberty that you go through and uh so uh in the ancient times we know very little about these things except Egypt keeps transmitting this old mystery tradition

that nobody really understands anymore but if you go a little farther along in time then come the Freemasons the rosicrucians rosicrucians are extremely interesting and most of my most advanced friends have had some experience in the rosicrucians but then later um the

Golden Dawn and then from the Golden Dawn the Oto I have a great friend Lon duquette who is the outer head of the Oto for a while and he's still very involved with them and I go to Oto meetings whenever I can and they're weird they're cool if you've ever seen

strange Angels about Jack Parsons yeah that was the Oto what a great job wasn't that amazing yeah what's your what's your perspective on Crowley like is he the the Beast that that people make amount to be or that is that people say he is or is there something there

one of the interesting things about Crowley he we saw this later in Michael Jackson and Britney Spears that there are times when the media Crowley would never have been who he was without the media just like Michael Jackson being weird just

like Shania Twain or Britney Spears whenever certain people do things the media will just absolutely saturate the headlines with it it's not because here's what Society needs to know here's what's good for society this is what sells newspapers and so people love a

train wreck people love schadenfreude people will buy a million times more newspapers if you put a salacious psycho train wreck person in the Headlands yeah and so just the symbiotic relationship between a person being colorful and interesting you know Society really it's

an unfortunate aspect of society in Australia they call it the tall poppy syndrome if you stand Head and Shoulders above everyone else look at Graham look at what's going on to Graham right now yeah if you have the unmitigated audacity to stand Head and Shoulders

above the masses there's this Grim Reaper with a sick cult that's going to come along and try and cut you down and it's a very present thing in Australian culture if you act a little too smart a little too big for your britches or a little too precious they're going to cut

you down because you're a tall poppy yeah and so uh very related to that and Crowley um stood Head and Shoulders among his peers but it was because the media realized that whenever they published a horrific article about him so they would lean into it and they would Hyperbole

and they would over aggrandize the evil and then he was smart enough like Michael Jackson Remember what Michael Jackson was doing all that crazy stuff he bought bubbles the chimp and he bought the bones of the animal man and he didn't do that because he loved those

things he had PR people saying okay do more weird stuff this week so we can get you back into the newspapers yeah and so the symbiotic cannibalism of interesting people by the media I think is a big part of why Crowley was um so popular the other thing was he was

one of the first occultists that was really quite open Israel regarding spilled the secrets of the Golden Dawn in this amazing book um who Israel regarding okay and Crowley in a way publicized some of the things that weren't supposed to be publicized

so that was another reason why the media wow you know largely masonically owned media went after him because every time it's happening with Brad and I and you and a magical Egypt there's some things in magical Egypt that used to be considered not fit for public

consumption and so you can still see the old guard for some reason they're all occupied elsewhere right now because there's bigger lies to being perpetuated and so The Gatekeepers that were guarding the door that Brad and I and Gary snuck into they're just not there

right now because they're working on a bigger lie and so there are moments where you can sneak in there and still gain access to these mystery Traditions but for some reason they're considered not appropriate for the time now so there's a huge resistance and a huge

effort to uh vilify people who are proponents of it I like Crowley because the way you can't get too explicit when you're talking about the mystery so proud Crowley did what I do is use the poetic mode of expression to get at the ineffable through ART and

Aesthetics and music and there's these very specific things that I do that create kind of a hypnotic thing to shut your left hemisphere down so you're participating in magical Egypt in the Eternal now because your left hemisphere is falling asleep and your right

hemisphere doesn't know past or future it's much more engaged in Aesthetics and jokes and music and Rhythm and non-lingual things and so um these are all ways to like a secret society in fact I don't think I've ever said this before but I made magical Egypt to be

sort of a uh like a nicotine patch that you can use to quit or to start smoking cigarettes sort of an introduction to the Mind state of the initiatory process and so it's happened in a million different ways but everybody has a masonic lodge in their town just go and

sit in if you really want to know yeah and uh it's there's nothing specific for years and years in masonry but when it starts happening or you know it's open to the public go to the Masonic uh Lodge in London the Grand Lodge number one and they have on display all of the central

Mysteries they're all geometric problems and these iconic into things but they're all right there nothing's secret it's just like you'd say it's mildly difficult so you have to go through the works do it yourself you're right I think that I think it's the war the mark

of a wise mind to be able to hold an idea to opposing ideas in your mind without without necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with either one until my favorite it's one of my favorite riffs right now where you're going yeah so it's like so it's like if if if you

know if I don't want to decide if something is necessarily good or bad or whatever I just want to hold it in my mind and and think on it for a while then you know there shouldn't be any reason not to do that I think that that is the mark of wisdom if if you're

having an emotional Trigger or emotional response to something that you've heard in the news or the or the media then it's the psyop worked on you dude like yeah sorry folks listen to what Xavier just said this is why I have such a joy in interacting with him that is an

incredibly elevated thought you've just had would have been a thought that was absolutely Beyond me except uh when Venetian I first came to Thailand on our initial fact-finding missions here I'd finished the book that I was reading and I just wandered into a bookstore and got

one of the few books I could find that was in English and it was a book about Confucius I never once heard that name before but most people don't realize how unbelievably smart this guy was and one of the most important things that he said one of the

things that absolutely killed me and especially right now it's like this uh disinfectant par Excellence for the primary disease that we have right now I have a set of ideas and if you don't believe exactly the ideas that I believe then you're my sworn enemy and I will

spend the rest of my life trying to you know to defeat you this polar R team or your team has no place in intellect in thinking so I read the thing that Confucius wrote in his book that if you start an argument well what he says is never start an argument unless you

understand both sides of the argument so well that you could take either side in the debate if you walk up to an enemy and you know nothing about them you've already lost so confucius's idea was really the primary load-bearing pillar of Renee Descartes

basic scientific method that you have to be able to hold two simultaneously contradictory viewpoints or possibilities or theories in your mind and then um this is what Rupert sheldrick and I used to talk about a lot I met Rupert sheldrake through John

Michelle John Michelle used to say about Rupert sheldrick you can give him any situation and he'll devise a double-blind experiment so you have observable measurable evidence of which one of these contradictory ideas are correct so you're not thinking person

unless you can hold two mutually so you find your ideal that you like or any thought and then conjure up the exact opposite of that and you have to for a moment suspend yourself exhibit some dispassionate behavior and really honestly look at both without

coloring it by which one you want to be true and that is the nature of science it's the nature of intellect so having acknowledged that how far have we been Behavior modified whereas so many people I bet 9 out of ten of your friends think the things I know now are sacrosanct and

God help you if you try and change my mind because then you're uh you know whatever so you know all the words that you held if you don't think it's the same and so that was an incredibly important thing and I just I just want to point out what a genius you are

savior oh oh man no that's I promise I'm not saying that to get into your pants oh I don't even know what to say right now but but look I I agree with you I am a genius first of all no no I'm not that much with you I'm just a humble genius um I

um I wish I had a Segway right now you know like okay so you are your doctor evil do you know any Dr Evil impersonation no but we're running out of time so I need you to focus chance okay okay good luck so so I I I want to talk about Kundalini

because it's very important and I I find more and more people have are having these Kundalini activations or they are activated and I'm encountering them and so so so there's something about us finding each other like you and I like your your case

active my case active it's like what Buddha said One Flame to another but what if you have two flames you know it's almost like a third flame is generated like sometimes when you and I talk sometimes when you and I talk my whole back just starts to vibrate and

shake and I'm just like what is going on man so so you know there is there is this sort of Intergalactic activation happening for this planet and the the beings on it and perhaps they're experiencing these Kundalini moments these Kundalini activations and you know what's your

take on this like you know certainly we're generating these K active people on the planet are generating a type of frequency that is also helping the planet itself there's a thing that I never would have predicted I still don't understand it

something about having gone through this experience you don't even have to be in the room with a person literally hearing someone's voice who's gone through this experience I wouldn't have said that like that was an idea to be taken seriously except uh there's been three

different people that were magical Egypt uh fans who weren't even watching the show they were watching Brad and I talk and they had a Kundalini event it was sort of it's very much like you know there's just something about your brain I forget

which part of your brain uh does this but when you watch pornography your brain doesn't know that you're watching it and you're not participating in it it's the reason pornography works so well as a wife substitute um that your brain doesn't really know the difference

on some level of level that matters yeah so um when you are in the presence of this event sometimes when you hear people talking about it it's sort of like being in the presence of pornography there's something about the vibration or maybe there's something about how we're all on

this boat going down a narrative stream and we know what's going to happen we don't know what's going to happen at the same time and that we just are not aware that this really incredibly important threshold moment that we all should be striving for has been uh taken away from

us there's a thing called Nick Gregory you know what an aggregor is no it's a magical term and it has to do with like a church but it takes place in the theaters it takes place in comedy clubs uh happens in Masonic lodges the reason this word came up is it's kind of a

masonic term it's a magical term when say 20 people get together in a magical Lodge and Gregor is born that is the total of them together so like if 20 people got together and created a historical society that Historical Society becomes a Living spirit an

aggregor and it's much more alive than you think and it starts exhibiting its will on the group so when you go to see a movie all by yourself it's a much less emotional experience than when you see it in a group when you go to a comedy club or when you go to church and pray

people are like batteries in a series where there's more energy generated if there's more of you there right and so an aggregor is this living thing that comes to life as a result of all these people and I think there's a Kundalini aggregor that's being born in the East

where the phenomena itself is a living thing like a fire in a tree and it's going to spread and spread and spread until the whole trees alight and then things will change it might turn out that we needed all this abuse from our government who you know when when you ever think

you have a sadomasochistic relationship with your government that's going to cause a series of changes in people who are just like no I've fell for that once I'm never being governed by some idiot that lives in a different city for me I'm never going to do that again

and uh that's that's an aggregor being born wow I mean there's there's so much there and I I agree with you I think there is there are different parts of this story that are connected into a larger picture and there are there are of course beings

that want to create their own narrative Their Own Story within that story but we end up we end up at the same you know on the same timeline we end up at the same place either way and I think you know I think um from one of our conversations I think

that that something that either you said or I realized was like oh well um they're they're there is this sort of I don't know this evil taking place and and but matching that is is good and when when the agreement that evil and good made was that evil could do what it wanted to

do until the very last moment until the very last second and then good would win or the light would win I think actually Venice told me about this I'm fixing it but she's that wise and it it like you know just it explode in my brain I was just like wow that's so true like that's

that it's what's going on right now that's where we're at now we've talked about that idea animesis that um Plato this is Plato's idea that he would uh suggest you've lived through this series of incarnations and maybe it's a hundred maybe it's a thousand

maybe it's ten thousand maybe it's a million but every one of these lives you remember all the lessons but just like when you go to a movie you don't want someone to spoil the end of it there seems to be a partition in our brains to keep us from remembering all

of these past life experiences but at some point you have a resonance when you hear something that's true and it connects with something you've learned in the past then all of a sudden like playing that card game concentration all of a sudden you can flip that card over

and that's a memory that you keep and so we've talked about this before everybody in the modern world when they see Egypt they remember that from so many previous lives that that's a it's one of the reasons why people why Egypt is such a catalyst or a trigger for people to

suddenly remember wait I'm not this Joe blow guy here I'm this Immortal or whatever I'm just I have this unexplainable fetish or Fascination or attraction to ancient Egypt is happening if time is happening all at once then there's it's a singularity

there's no there's no such thing as past lives it's just your linear brain trying to understand okay you living in this other part of of reality and time and space but it's actually all happening at once it's simultaneous lives if that's the model then there's a

million years doing a million things in a million simultaneous universes and some of those universes are situated in what we think is different times so once again it's like you're aware that you in some other space are having this experience like oh there's a great movie

with Michelle yo everything everywhere all at once where she became aware of the activities of all of her parallel selves and parallel universes there's something weird there I don't pretend to know the exact physics of it but somehow this enemies has either with

time or without time and I agree that time is an illusion the idea that when you've encountered ideas that you haven't actually heard before some for some reason the truth of certain ideas just hits you and even though you know science or Western

Society will tell you you're insane for thinking this way sometimes we hear the truth and it just resonates and we just know we just know it's true everyone has a built-in [ __ ] detector yeah completely but a truth detector more importantly

I think I think when you encounter someone that is speaking from their heart and honest and sincere and authentic you you you literally feel it in your body like it's a feeling and and then when someone is doing the opposite you can feel that too and and I think I

think at least the people that I'm around and the people that I hang out with and that are in my circle like there's there's no no people who are like the the [ __ ] type like we only allow in the real people and so so that's just you know that's just what I

decided to do with my life but but but chance we have about five minutes so we need to wrap this up into a bow and and give it to the people because once everyone hears us they're gonna be blown away by the amount of information this episode and I'm loving it so far I wish

I could keep you longer but we've got about five minutes I need you to tie it all together wow yeah like from Aliens deciding the fate of humanity and you being the Arbiter to everyone having a Kundalini activation all at once and moving into The Fifth

Dimension I think it has to do with a life cycle trajectory I think in the west we are about a five-year-old or maybe we're an 11 or 12 year old and we're about to go through a kind of puberty this puberty has happened to other cultures that you

know look at the Indian culture The Vedic cultures the uh Hindu uh the Buddhist the uh well there's so many uh just about every major religion has this strange story and its roots about this thing that we're all heading towards this new thing

like we're about to realize we can fly but it's something psychic it has to do with the mind and about the spiritual body initiation has to do with this fundamental shift of identity and you identify as your body as your physical body but at a certain point in the

initiatory process you realize wait a minute I'm not this meat this meat is more like a video game that I'm playing that I can control it and experience it through the body but I am ultimately the player and not the Avatar once you shift your sense of identity from the physical

meat body to this higher energetic Consciousness yourself your eye The Great I Am inside of you that's an initiation and suddenly you start living in a different world where the material is present but it's not the thing that's causing the motion there's this hidden

thing behind reality and that's what you start dancing with when you go through this initiatory process and we all feel it we all feel the emptiness and all of society is built to keep us from questioning what's missing why do I feel so empty and pointless all the time and

the initial initiation is the process of recalibrating your sites to see this beautiful growing thing inside of you that the outside world is trying to kill chance I'd absolutely adore these conversations and I my intention is to feature you as a guest more and more I

want you to be a sort of regular at the hxp and and you know just because our conversations are so high level and and you know I don't get that I mean I get that but not like this and I think it's very unique and that's why within just a few weeks like I was like chance please

come back you know like because I want more and and I think we just have this Rapport that just it just connects and hopefully people can feel that so chance where can people find magical Egypt your work where can people go to find out more about you

magicalinject.com so we have um season three is just uh is out there we're underway on season four and a magical Egypt feature film but you can watch all the shows and hundreds of hours of podcasting and Brilliant conversations like the one I'm having

with Xavier it's all on magicalegypt.com perfect guys what a show what a show to wrap up the the year and just kind of just you know be done be done with the all the drama of at least 2022 right and yep so chance wish you a very very happy New Year my

friend I hope that same thing we exit this Matrix very very soon and I'm just gonna play the roll credits and we guys will be back next week of course we're going to be doing this weekly and back to the old schedule every Thursday and um I'll catch you guys next week

thank you foreign