Transcript for Kingsley L. Dennis Ph.D.

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inviting me Kingsley you seemed to have such an interesting life you’ve moved around to a couple different countries you’ve taken some odd jobs just so you could. pursue your writing career I mean what how did you go through that walk us through that well where should I begin I I don’t know was I’ve been blessed or. cursed but I had the from a very early age the the notion that I wanted to write about things and to learn about the world so naturally at the first.

opportunity after university I decided to to go and wander the world but in order to do so I had to pay my way so I decided to be to take up teaching in the. different countries and I took up sociology after a while because I wanted to learn about the world I was moving around in and also been fascinated by.

different cultures so my most memorable I think time abroad was was the five years I spent in Istanbul Turkey and and traveling around that air of the world. and what I realized is that there were parts of sociology especially I think the systems theory and these systems idea of evolution that I found matched so well with some of the the oriental.

teachings they let’s say the wisdom streams but in fact I think Western science was trying to look at it from a different perspective so eventually I decided to come back and after a bout of. teaching to really get into study of social systems consciousness human development evolution and all these dreams which more or less bring me back to where I am.

today I mean I love your your writing style cuts like a knife I just want to read the passage the back passage of of your book here the struggle for your. mind within society there exists a silent war the battlefield is our everyday lives our education our work our leisure our emotional and spiritual well-being and our thinking and.

perceptions our very sense of reality is deliberately engineered to work against conscious evolution and preserve social norms in short we are all part of a war of consciousness and the opportunity is. at hand for us to win Wow mmm sounds good on paper yeah yeah I mean what motivates you to write about this type of subject well again Xavier I.

think it it’s the blessing of the cursed element the yin yang is that from a very early age I always sensed that something wasn’t quite the way it was and that. this thing that we call reality was not a set medium so I mean I think that actually underlies all my or my searching is trying to to get the core.

of that and what’s at the core of it is really what we try to understand as human consciousness for me everything goes back to human consciousness the way. that we perceive the world around us our belief sets really makes up the world that we inhabit so you know if everyone around us believes something we tend to. fall into that and it’s when you look into it in fact it’s so easy for conditioning both social conditioning and mental conditioning to take place in fact it is always taking place since I.

think since the earliest days of civilization once you have civilization you have to have a kind of consensus reality and the more complex scientists become you then have the. hierarchy of leaders which then have to make sure that the masses kind of fit into their belief system and say you have this thing called social engineering to give it a modern term.

it’s always been around as far as backers they I think you know it’s kind of self reflective consciousness and so really it’s it’s a science but it’s also. the basis for our reality set so light is more malleable than perhaps you’re taking credit for although I think some of the the new scientists coming out now. with our understanding of the quantum sciences and the holographic universe notion helps us to give us tools vocabulary to understand how flexible and malleable the reality set is but you.

know really who controls how you think who controls the input you put into your mind and the frames of consciousness. will therefore have a great influence upon your reality it’s as simple as that yeah yeah I mean you talk about in your book you talk about the illusion of? freedom and how if a part of a prisoner never sees the bars I mean how can they know that they’re in a prison yeah it’s a term I also like to use is smooth.

captivity because I think our captivity these days is so smooth and it’s been engineered to be smooth that we don’t notice it or we don’t wish to notice it. because it’s a smoother ride to stay in the consensus reality we have and you know and so we don’t wish to we have everything around us and we have you. know this is also part of how society has been let’s say developed and you if you wish to go back to Marxism you could but the idea is that people now can.

acquire the very things that once they produced and so we have most material goods to keep us comfortable and before the age of global information that was more or less enough. I mean there were pockets of protest but it was enough to keep us into the system I think what’s happening now and as I outlined in the stubble for your mind.

the because we’re in such a moment of bifurcation point of of current you know of contention it’s because we’re now receiving so much more information which. is showing as the bars of our prison and that is upsetting let’s say the the status quo of our societies because we’re beginning to see beyond in the? smooth captivity and you know that is in one sense a tool for empowering people individually but it’s also a tool for rocking the boat and so I think in the.

years to come and possibly a deck in decades this this kind of melting pot of information communication technologies global information technologies human empowerment connectivity communication consciousness it’s all really going to. boil over and no one knows where it’s going at the moment and that’s why it’s a it’s exciting and also unstable times yeah Wow I mean I I ripped through this.

book I loved reading it and I just I just felt like you were on point with everything that you had to say I mean. where where do you think I mean there there are so many systems of control I mean you talk about misinformation debt distraction media technology I mean how? how wide and varied are the ways that we might not be in full control of our own minds and what effect is it having our own on our own cotton conscious?

evolution well loaded question that it’s is everything that affects our minds you know there’s an old Eastern phrase I picked up which says you know greed for. doing good is still greed which means that things which we think are helping us other things which may seem altruistic such as spiritual belief systems maybe those very systems which are still. part of the problem you know we see in in the past I think the it was quite the sources of this control were much easier to spot take an example in earlier.

societies it was much more a visual kind of programming for example if a citizen did something contrary to the monarchy to the government or to the nation they. were visibly punished they could be tied to a post in a square they could be put into interchange they could even be guillotine or hand or executed publicly? and that gave everyone a warning to stay in their place and don’t mess with the system you know you can’t get away with that today you know I’m sure some.

governments will probably like to put people to a pole or something you know you can’t get away with it in our so-called democratic societies obviously so it’s a much more it’s a much more. smooth way of doing it and we don’t notice it and it it’s kind of like function creep it creeps into all our all our methods and in everything from.

schools to everything our peers and even I think one of the problems we’re having today I see around us is that one of the I think it can be quite dangerous is. spirituality itself and I think this is a point which not everyone points at is that there has been incredible commercialization of spiritual themes even if we if we mention the New Age.

movement which was coming on the end of of the great I say emergence of transcendental technologies and and pathways that came into the West post Second World War even there I think have. become in a sense hijacked as well in and commercialized and in fact a lot of these spiritual technologies today are also used a way of kind of brain.

entrainment and and they are using a sense of cognitive science you try to get us to believe in certain in certain ways so in fact it’s not it’s. not as clear-cut about what affects is or not so in terms of the question you asked about conscious evolution I would say that it goes back to something very. very fundamental which is we have to trust our intuition we have to trust if I may say so Timothy Leary said that we all have an inbuilt detector.

which I think was his kind of cheeky chappie way of saying that we have this inbuilt conscience and intuition which I I think is coming through a lot more? especially in the younger generation today I see coming up because they’re less the indigenisation are less easy to fool I think and they are questioning systems and authority more in a.

constructive way so I think we have to go back to ourselves really really not in a quite a stark way and question everything that we believe and come in. contact with and and try to strip away a lot of of the baggage which comes with living in a very dense rich and over flowing information lee modern society. yeah it’s very intriguing I mean in the in the same book struggle for the career mind you talk about mechanisms in the brain that are emerging that allow.

neurogenetic evolution that will help us throw off these kinds of mental prison I mean what what is neuro genetic evolution how does how does the mechanism work and I mean how how can we. free ourselves another loaded question for you it is yeah you like loaded questions I turned a neurotic evolution because I think we are learning a lot more about human genetics in recently.

and especially with our understanding of epigenetics that is that previously science told is that genetic differentiation or let’s say datian occurred over generations in a larger span of time biological evolution. you may call it with epigenetics we are learning that genomes can actually be influenced and change within a lifetime and intergenerational which can also be passed on and so the question is what.

influences human genes and I think when I looked into it in fact it mirrors a lot of the older wisdom traditions in that biophysics recent biophysics has. investigated how the bio photons are emitted by our DNA and all our physical cells and this forms a field which acts like a quantum field throughout the body. which is a way of information cellular information being passed simultaneously like an informational field and so this biophotonic field is also in resonance to other fields and influences and such?

as let’s say sounds certain sound waves which we can relate to the science of mantras and zippers and certain spiritual techniques also color as well and so I mentioned for example there are. places which have specific color orientations such as use of stained glass windows in churches and also the colors on on in rooms and so sacred buildings have a certain you know.

spatial structure and sacred German genomics which also can’t affect vibrations in the atmosphere so these things which we thought as it’s perhaps been fringe sciences can have a very. definite effect an impact upon field electromagnetic fields which are part of our DNA structure so if one goes into meditation you know with there’s been lots of research on EEG brain scans.

about how we come into entrainment and synchronization of our brains but there isn’t yet the technology to look at how our DNA fields. are being affected but I do feel that these mechanics and I call them let’s say spiritual tools certain forms meditation using sounds using colors? which have been used for aliens in these wisdom traditions I can’t have a marked effect upon our genetic state so there?

is a sense that we can come into what has been called meta programming I think there is a sense and this was touched upon in in the America in the 60s with? scientists like Johnny Lilly who worked with isolation tanks again Timothy Leary looked at this and several others which they call it meta programming so I think there is a way that we can consciously.

try to work in programming the very structure the very similar and internal structure of the human body that can work towards let’s say our opening up our own latent faculties and capacities. which really is not it’s not really been out in the mainstream much yeah I mean how would you there’s a sub chapter in your book where you talk about decoding?

the Armageddon meme I mean why do you think this 2012 sort of I mean it why is Armageddon and the obsession of with zombies and vampires and the end of the. world why is that being fed into the mass unconscious mind mmm yeah I mean the 2012 Norman that was quite a spectacle and you know the day. after I think there’s a lot of people sitting around thinking well what didn’t happen this is nothing yeah nothing happened that we that was in that mean you know.

and I think where it came from of course we know the origin of 2012 the main calendar and I think that has an authentic base but like many things that. are out into public sphere it gets hijacked and we do have this kind of in end times mentality or perhaps we have an end times weakness you know going? back to biblical talk of of the apocalypse and it deep hours people and so what it does is that it also lets in fear and fear is a great weakness it.

weekd it weakens our electromagnetic field that’s been verified it weakens our immune system which is being verified but also it allows in when we have a sense of fear we need security so. obviously when we don’t feel we have it ourselves we reach out to an outside Authority so it also puts us collectively at a kind of disadvantage and so the 2012 Armageddon meme was.

really to disempower all this other tropes and memes which were trying to struggle through about at the twenty twelve will be able to empower ourselves etc etc it was a whole wave of. disinformation which would I think deliberately been put into I said the public consciousness so of course when it deflated and nothing was there it kind of put a sword through the whole.

thing and just said well you know it was all wrong there’s not going to be this this vibration to the fifth dimension you’re not going to be saved by people. coming to get you off the planet or you’re not going to evolve to a new human and so in a way a lot of people felt kind of deflated and quite.

depressed and when we were in that mode we want to go back in secure to the status quo you know the story I give in the book about you know the weekend for. Nanami you know about how we are allowed to go out at weekends and alcohol is legal and we have a great time and perhaps too good a time you know we get.

completely you know we have we go wild often often off our heads and and then when it comes to Monday morning we’re happy to go back to the status quo. system because we’ve had a blowout you know and that was the same technique which was used for example on slave plantations I gave the example from one. of the texts from one of the free slave right and he said that a lot of the slaves.

were given money that could only be used on the plantation shops that when they had time off such as Christmas the money? was spent to buy booze whiskey liquor and the slaves were allowed to have a blowout and get absolutely out of it for several days so drunk at the end of it? they they were wanting to get back into work to get get their heads together and that was just one example I think was Frederick to think of the right to do.

but that can be verified and I think that is a weakened nanami that certain that certain substances are not allowing society because they actually stimulate your own stimulate our experiences and. then we start to we have a different reality perspective and that isn’t good for go back into the system but other things like alcohol which are in some. ways more danger to the human biology and all the deaths we’ve had about all over the years they’re allowed because they give us a blowout phenomena and.

afterwards we want to go back into the system Monday morning and so there are these things that play as well it’s very very intriguing I mean um and we’re. covering a lot here very quickly I just I want to get into kind of winning the war and you know you talked about there. is nothing to fear and that I mean do you think that we will eventually win this this war I do i do Xavier and I don’t we’ll have a doubt about that and?

that for me is something which I instinctively feel in fact and that’s why I often prefer to speak about this winning the war and out of all the books. I’ve written the struggle for your mind is the really the only one that goes into the dark side of of our manipulations and and the technologies that controllers all my other word.

actually examines they do I think the rise of human consciousness over there over the the deck and the evolution of consciousness into the future so I do think we’re winning. it because if you look again 20th century looks like it’s been the this the century of the greatest warfare but if we look at it in terms of the inner.

landscape it’s been essentially with great exploration innovation and experimentation of the human in a landscape and not you know we’ve had the rise of let’s say transcendental. technologies the rise of experimentation with within a landscape in whatever form that may take we also have the tools to talk about it because before let’s say. psychoanalysis and Freud and Jung and we’ll have like we didn’t have much language to talk about in the world who didn’t have a subconscious we didn’t have an ADD or ego so now we’ve had this.

language we’ve had a sensuous of spiritualism of we now have scientists or my out-of-body experiences and verifying this we have esoteric subjects. which would have belonged to the mystery schools before now publicly available literature is available people are talking about it well we have this conversation now we can talk about? consciousness in a way that wasn’t available a few you know a few decades ago and there are subjects we can talk about now which we couldn’t not even.

talk about ten years ago so I think the inner landscape of of the human being has really expanded tremendously and I think this is a sign that there’s a. different shift in human evolution which we call conscious evolution and so what I think is important now is that we are conscious that we can participate in our. evolution as a species in our societies and have take more control of that instead of being at the whim of evolutionary forces so now I think we’re.

coming to a different plane food and this is what is going to be tricky is that the playing field now is known more or less by both sides. those who let’s say in control or authority of social systems and hand ourselves to people you know and and technologies coming into that as well and which is. going to be a major factor but now the some information out there so much experimentation sharing or processes coming together as groups and helping each other working with our peers.

experimenting and journeying together that I feel that there is a greater let’s say weight coming over now to individual self exploration which wasn’t there before and we can win this. I mean all of your books seem to kind of revolve around this I mean in breaking the spell you talk about overcoming this social conditioning and this. disconnection from the universe and what I mean what are the some of the worries that you would say would be useful in helping someone free themselves to.

connect to life more well the first thing really is to you cannot really start until you start to be asking the right questions and asking the questions. it really gets the ball rolling I just say we don’t know in a prison until we see the bones so the first thing to say that we realize that we are in a reality.

set that is socially engineered and that may not be a bad thing just as the ego is not a bad thing in its place you know we have to survive in this physical. world I don’t I don’t support going into a cave and being a hermit we’re lifting this world and so we need a certain amount of this conditioning around us.

but it’s being aware of what the conditioning is and when its operating now when you just take a step back from that and in fact I think both in the end. of struggle for your mind and in another word breaking the spell you mentioned I talked about some techniques such as stepping away whereby we can learn to. recognize what is distracting around us and to pull our mind back from that distraction now what an analogy I give.

is is a drowning person if if a person is drowning in the ocean the first reaction we have is to go out there swim up there and try to save them? and this drowning person is like society that they’re trying to be distracting and if we go out there and we’re not prepared a drowning person will grab. onto you and because they’re struggling they’ll pull you down with her naturally because they’re struggling you know and I think the social systems are struggling and you can see that because.

they’re trying to make so much noise to distract us because they know that you know we see in them for what they are the emperor has no clothes so they’re. making more noise but if we go to where the noise is if we go to where the drowning person is they’re likely to put us down Coast Guard’s say that you know.

unless you’re trained be careful of going out there so I would say careful of giving these these events these systems your attention because they are addictive and they will pull you in we. need amount of stepping back pulling back our minds pulling back our attention away from them and be mindful of what information we receive information programs us do we want.

information that’s always negative that brings us down that pulls us in what information channels are we using let’s use our instinct let’s use our as Larry said our detector and. look for those channels of information that we feel resonated with us now we have to be more discerning I think for so long that we were consumers consumers. of information because information was one way the television through stuff it is before that the radio through stuff attaches now we can be proactive information is not one way it’s it’s.

multiple we can go out there we can produce our own information we’re prosumers not current consumers anymore we produce tender information and I think that we should take a much more. active role about what we want to engage with what we want to receive allow interest and and learn to step away and distance ourselves from the rest and and.

I think we have to be more aware of this and aware where our parrot is lying because what we take in. will will be part of our programming and we have an active role and and responsibility to take care of that Wow Wow I mean I I just feel your your words cut? as much as you know these on your book in your book as much as in this interview and I love everything that you’re saying do you feel as if I mean.

like you said when you see a person drowning and they tend to kind of be in this fear state and they bring you down with them I mean do you feel like. leaving a sort of solitary lifestyle is a cure for that well I think everything-everything should be taking a moderation anything in extreme is not good for you.

if you have a headache you take a penicillin okay yep and that’s brilliant but if you take a hundred penicillins you’re not going to wake up so. everything is going to be moderation if you feel you need a moment top of solitary peace take it I think I think being alone and and having some. solitariness is healthy you know we should not be afraid to be alone we should not be afraid of silence because the world is full of chatter but I said.

I don’t think that we should be solitary all our lives like a hermit we should learn to take responsibility to make the choice of when do we need something like. being alone and how much of it you know as I say be next extreme of anything whether it’s good or bad is is not going to be useful and you know we should work.

out what what we need so what worked for someone else won’t work for us and also we should we should understand who we need to speak to sometimes we may want. to help someone but that moment we can’t help them because you know there may be you know in a state where they’re just not listening to us or they don’t.

resonate and if we stay with them we may feel their own energy drained so we have to be aware that some people would I mention in the book there. they can’t become like psychic vampires after not in a deliberate way they may not mean it but they may be sucking our energies because they’re not in a in a. in a proactive state yet or a state of realization so you know we can help people to a degree and then said okay that’s enough I need to step back now.

and maintain my own state and you know they’ll have to make some efforts to to come around to the information themselves so you know we have to be. aware of our own state and take care of ourselves at the same time yeah I mean if you look at the world and you look at the political landscape I’m not sure if.

you’re following what’s happening here in the states it’s kind of absurd I think you can miss it I mean I if you just look at what’s going on around us. it it really does seem like we’re on the precipice of something else something new I’m not sure if it’s the end of an era or the beginning of a new one it.

seems more like the beginning of a new one but I mean what I mean what do you think about that I mean how do you think. where do you think we are in this phase of human history I think we are beginning of our new phase and in in these in these phase transitions to use? a term from complex Sciences and there’s always a distance of information because these two systems all been the new are clashing again to give a visual example.

if you throw a stone into a pond you get ripples that go out if you throw two stones in the two circular ripples from the stones when they meet each other. they have the interference they clash those ripples break up I think this is what’s happening now as a new system is coming in both the human consciousness. and into the social domain it’s clashing with the old and so having this disruption but in fact and if in fact if you look at this these dynamics the.

dynamics of chaos or disruption produces energy which is in fact necessary for bringing in the new system this is this is this this type of chaotic systems actually plays out in. social systems in cellular biological systems as well and it’s based a basis of life and this energy is required Xavier I feel that our you know descendants are going to look back at.

this time and look at the work we’ve been going through the time we’re going through and they will perhaps look at this as being as important as the time. that humanity moved from the Flat Earth to the round earth perspective you know because so much is happening now and it’s one of the few times that we’re. going through I think a global civilizational disruption not just an a nice idea war on Empire ik warm belong to empires I feel that the Age of.

Empires is over now despite what may look like in world affairs most systems are now global financial systems rely on global trade you know we have so many. social systems trade systems communication systems that if you know if one goes down it all affects the other and so there’s is rippling now. what we may seen in the political systems is that little systems of this so-called democracy I’m not I’m not functioning anymore I mean they they had?

their role they’re not functioning and so what we see and on the television is like the magician in stripe of hand you create a distraction in one area so you. don’t see what’s happening somewhere else so all this particular fanfare and all the you know the Trump’s and the Clintons of the world you know they’re creating a lot of noise and I think.

they’re trying to hide a broken system and and I think what you know what we need to do is really instead of just being watching the debates or the or the. arguments however you wish to call them we should be looking at the the people who are talking about you know what are better systems out there and I see some.

of the conversations from the younger generation being very constructive about what are perhaps better political systems but we may have to wait a new generation for them to. mean but I wouldn’t take too much notice of the fanfare you know as I say you know don’t look at what a person says you know observe their actions and that. tells us a lot more when I’d like to talk a little bit about your book dawn of the akashic age what motivated you to write that yet that book I wrote in.

collaboration with my colleague Ervin Laszlo and in fact what came about was her had written previously a book about 2012 about how there will be changed coming around 2012 not only on the meme. or the Mayan calendar was just it was just a point to say system will be changing because you know the new ways of thinking are coming in so he.

approached me and said would you like to write a book about how systems be how will the world be in 2020 and we said yes let’s do it but let’s not usually in. a year date you know we’ve had enough of 2012 let’s forget 2020 rather than going on a time-based thing let’s look at a theme based what changes can we have see.

happening in the world around you know around this this epoch and Akasha is a temper that had used before and Akash refers to the fifth field the Hindu. riches of old of the Vedic time in the Vedas talked about air earth water fire as a four elements and the fifth element. was a kasha they said Akasha is what we would call the the quantum collective field the underlying field and so we want to look at how this understanding through?

science that we are part of a quantum entangled universe that the world is entangled in so many ways in like a field metaphor that what happens is. going to occur to all around the world with that understanding as our base how can we see educational systems political systems financial systems needing change in a let’s say planetary civilization. going through the birthing pangs and I do feel that’s what was happening I think I sensed that we are as a as a global species moving towards what may become.

for want of a better term a planetary civilization but how we get there is going to be a different matter because I don’t I’m not referencing the Borg from. Star Trek III would have bought this kind of collective unitary mind Society but I think that we’re going through towards a planet to society based on diversity but based on a on a shared.

understanding of consciousness but how we get there is going to be the the decades ahead for us in our generations to come to figure out and that’s going. to be the great evolutionary challenge for our species yeah Mia bang on I love it I love everything you have to say I mean it really seems like you’re kind of. one of those hidden authors that that people have to kind of look for and find and I mean now that I’ve kind of found your material I’m just like soaking it.

up and love it I want to talk about your book meeting Monroe because it seems like this book for you is the most powerful that’s what I got from that do. you want me to kind of give a little passage that you write about or do you want to just get into it well she’ll give me a passage because in.

fact it’s very hard for me to make remember the book it’s like I was there but I wasn’t and here’s a here’s a small passage it is difficult to clearly. express what happened to me over the period of several weeks it was both an intense and surreal experience even thinking about it now has me hat has me. at a loss to give any credible explanation it is probably best that I don’t try to define or categorize what in effect was a series of startling and.

profound encounters I have a feeling deep within that my meeting with the person in quotes I came to know as Monroe was not an accident I mean wow does it sound so mysterious I. really want to know more yes well it’s you know it’s the book which for me is that the highest to talk about because in fact it’s a book which I feel I.

didn’t write you know all these other books we’ve been talking about are ideas that I’m I’m trying to articulate with Munro is the most personal book because. it happened to me and my conversations with this person that I was known to me as Munro and the ideas expressed were very powerful and the ideas are about. more or less on the theme of ourselves of the species in our in our evolutionary journey and our responsibility upon that and I go back to that book many times because so many.

passages I don’t remember because I let’s say I I put them out i disseminated them I I took them down I wrote them up and I put them out but I. feel like I they just passed through me but so many times in my writings and my talks I realized that in fact this is still a lot of the talk is Monroe is.

coming through me it’s embedded in me I’m a I’m promised I provide for sounding vague but I think there are times in our lives when we have powerful. encounters and they don’t come out immediately and if if we if we absorb them I think things come out at the right time we have to process them but. they come up they become a part of us my own journey is I’m trying to understand how can we evolve consciously as a species collectively and individually.

and what that entails and how can we articulate that and where does human consciousness play out in that and the more I think we we tackle these issues. and articulate them discuss them share them they impact our perceptive sets they impact how we perceive our environment our perspectives on the world and the world starts to shift. accordingly you know I didn’t so much change can kind of from the inside out which means that we trigger it if we take responsibility to think in a different way to speak in a.

different way to engage in life in different way then the the manner the our tools are perceiving the world around us start to shift and adjust according to our perspective and I think. that’s part of maybe a quantum entangled universe or a matrix universe however wish to call it we are in a participative relationship with the world around us.

so our perceptive sets our behavior and thinking that all is a part nothing is isolated so if you shift one if you start to change your mental apparatus. then that has a knock-on effect with how we interact with the world around as we have to start somewhere it’s beautiful I love it you know Kingsley we’re approaching the. end here man if is there you know is there one single thing through your writing through your experiences through your research that maybe someone who is listening to this show right now that.

you could kind of deliver a message to them is there something that you would kind of like to say what I would say that if it was possible for me to have. this journey it’s possible for anyone you know I came from a normal family in a small town in England and I just had a sense that I need to investigate some.

things and everybody has the latent capacity anybody everybody can change anybody can start to evolve their thinking patterns it’s not that any elitism. is not it’s not you know locked away we’re talking about the real democracy real democracy is not in politics real democracy is in the evolution and spiritual realization of the self and? that’s open to everybody everybody has the tools and I would say don’t believe what I say because belief is not a part of this we’re talking about his.

understanding go away do your homework think about things for yourself figure them out for yourself because everything works differently for each person but if I can reach these thoughts. and anybody can and and best of look a lot of man where can where can people find your work perhaps the easiest way. is just to google my name Kingsley Dennis I think I was blessed with a unusual name which comes pretty high up on the search engine Google Kingsley?

Dennis I have a website WWE Laden is calm I have a lot of information on there I have a link to essays look in the menu bar I have maybe. over 40 essays all downloadable for free read them do your browsing there are you know PDFs to download seek out my books if you wish and an enjoying all the.

material that I am I’m happy to make available Kingsley thank you so much for being here man I really appreciate it the book. is called struggle the struggle for your mind this is the human experience and we are gonna get out of here Thank You Xavier my pleasure?