Transcript for Episode 37 – Mr. Dick Sutphen

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what’s up guys this is our interview

with mr. dick Suppan he has had quite a

long-standing career and he’s been doing

this since the nineteen seventies or so

and him and his wife Barbara are two of

this sweetest people I’ve ever

encountered just free open kind

warm-hearted people and I’ve been

listening to his tapes for so long so I

just wanted to bring him on and see what

his perspective was it is interesting

when you dig into how many hypnosis

sessions mister something has done so

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putting you into a deep hypnotic trance

as we speak to my guests mr. dick Sutton

he is the author of million copy

bestseller you were born to be together

he’s the founder of Valley Sun

publishing he has created over 300 mine

programming CDs and over 190,000 people

have attended his seminars Richard that

is quite the resume sir welcome to hxp

if we thank you very much Xavier thank

you for having me

oh yeah it’s a pleasure so I kind of

laid the foundation of who you are here

a bit in the intro but for the people

that don’t know could you just give us

your background please okay well I

started out in the advertising field

working with major advertising agencies

around the country and B it was art

directors work and I started writing

with the copywriters and as a result I

wrote about what I was experiencing in

just my hobby work metaphysics

hypnosis things along that line and it

became quite popular I eventually

started to do some hypnosis work I

studied to be a hypnotist and started

hypnotizing clients hypnotizing anybody

that was willing to sit still for it and

and that was very effective and I

started experimenting with techniques

that could take it what seemed to me a

lot further than then people were taking

it and I got into it because I was

interested in the metaphysical side hmm

I wasn’t really interested in being a

hypnotherapist and yet you know I was

challenged by it the fact that you could

use the techniques to effectively heal

people resolve problems find the cause

of the problems in their life if the

problems went back to other lifetimes

and usually they did so I kept

experimenting with it and I started

writing books and Simon and Schuster was

my major publisher and I wrote about I

think seven eight of them for Simon and

Schuster and for other publishers along

the way and that’s basically um that’s

basically at Xavier us that’s quite the

career so I mean so how how many

hypnosis sessions do you think that

you’ve done total let’s give or take

oh boy B hypnosis sessions or thousands

III couldn’t even begin to tell you

because so many of the sessions that

I’ve done have been in seminars they

have been to demonstrate techniques in

seminars but I would say several oh five

six seven eight thousand at least

ah sessions where a client has sat down

with me and in whatever room I was her

office I was doing hypnosis in at the

time that does gone on a journey so hmm

interesting so so what I mean what

exactly is happening when you are

putting someone into a state of trance

or hypnosis well it’s easy to put

someone into a state of hypnosis um I

use mind electronics techniques uh

probably as much as anybody does because

I invented the techniques that are so

effective but that’ll be a matter of a

sound up and the sound will be played in

the background in the office and I will

then speak them talk them down into a an

altered state of consciousness and I’d

like to work in a theta level so I’m

bringing them down into theta which is

the state at which they’re most likely

to see visions it’s the state of

consciousness is called the hypnagogic

State and it’s where Einstein used to go

every afternoon after lunch uh he laid

down to take a nap which really wasn’t a

nap to alter his consciousness and then

he’d come up and he would come up with

all these ideas and so when Einstein

talked about doing that he was going

into hypnosis and he was channeling his

awareness his ideas his discoveries yeah

yeah that’s a bit that’s incredibly

intriguing so you mentioned a metaphysic

aspect of the hypnosis what I mean what

was the most remarkable thing that you

found that these people were


okay well I that’s a primary reason I

went into it in the first place was to

explore past lives the concept of being

born in a you know a series of

reincarnations and the fact that these

past lives would be affecting the

present life and if someone had a

particular hang-up or problem or

something they were dealing with that

they couldn’t explain in a context of

their normal life why I would take them

back to the cause and this initially was

really all I was doing with it it was

all I cared about doing with the work

but they would go back to the cause and

I oftentimes would not tell them to go

back into a past life I would say let’s

go back to the cause wherever it may be

and they would go back to another time

another place and more often than not

they would go back to another life so

when they started to describe on live

times I mean the moment they’d start

talking about their experiences it would

be very obvious that they were not

talking in the context of this life just

lapsed into dust and just went on with

Dutch and I have always a tape recorder

right beside does the hard linguist it’s

a hard language in ancient Dutch is a

lot harder language some Wow and so I

recorded it and asked her if I could

give it to someone who might know and

this was the head of language at Arizona

State University so I took it down there

and I had him look at listen to it and

he said oh my god that is

Dutch but he said where did you ever

find old Dutch like this who could still

speak like this I told it I explained to

him that it was coming from a young

woman who was hypnotized then he was you

know that was out of his realm he really

I don’t think was too much interested in

that but a lot of people were and so it

was the beginning of checking out to see

if the situation’s being discussed if

another language was used and I often

times asked them could you speak up and

speak in the language of your day back

in 1714 in in the Netherlands and I’d

say about half the time people just

easily would go right into the other

language the ancient language that they

were they were speaking in hmm so and

this proved not to be anything very

unusual at all

most hypnotists I found who were used to

doing a lot more work than I had done at

the beginning um they’d all experimented

with this sort of thing and so they all

had experiences along this line well

I’ve I’ve personally listened to your

tapes and switching gears a little bit

here but I love your stuff I mean I use

there’s there’s a few that I

specifically that I use there’s a

there’s a like a confidence zapper which

I use which is great and there’s a few

others that I used every day but let’s

let’s rewind a little bit well thank you

for doing that I want to insert thank

you they’re they’re amazing to listen to

so let’s go back to advertising because

you you discuss these these other areas

and and in your talk the battle for your

mind you talk about brainwashing and

hypnotic techniques being used by

religions and so and how does this

process happen and

and how can we be aware you had a career

in advertising so well it’s not very

difficult to hypnotize someone Xavier

all you would have to do in a simple

form would be to create a quiet

environment churches are being built

today because they know the pop of the

meditative state often churches will use

meditation as part of their service so

if you put somebody with a low lighting

in vitam in a low lighting environment

and you pay play music where there is no

tension or no results such as oriental

music why you create an environment in

which if you just speak in a paced voice

about like this you will put someone

into a deep hypnotic sleep soon and so

you can do this very easy uh even

without somebody realizing is what’s

going on I can smooth my voice out and

strike just about any speed and I’ll

usually bring it down to about 45 beats

a minute and if I used pacing and I’m in

a quiet environment and even if I’m not

in a real quiet environment I can

usually hypnotize just about anyone if

I’ve set out to do that but if you were

working on your computer I am a writer I

write books and so if I’m spending all

day writing without being interrupted

very often I am going into a theta level

of consciousness simply as part of the

environment it’s all it takes but there

are so many situations

which are conducive to an altered state

I used to be a run and I’d go out every

morning I put on my running shoes and I

would put in at least two three miles

oftentimes oh maybe five six miles well

after you reach about the first about

the first mile you just lapse into a

state where you’re running but you don’t

even realize that there’s no pain you’re

just flying ran and at that point you

are in a deep history of hypnosis and so

when it when it first started to happen

I remember writing some articles for

some running magazines and I would talk

with the writers who were doing it much

more seriously than I and I’d say well

what is is there anything that that you

find common to all runners and the

answer was yeah Richard the primarily

the runners are the most mellow people

on the planet and of course anybody that

spends a lot of time at a theta level um

if they do this twice a day they

probably are not going to come back into

a full waking state of consciousness and

so you’re you’re putting people they are

putting themselves into hypnosis so many

of the runners at the time would be

running along and then they would say oh

my god I’m floating above myself

watching myself run down the street and

they simply had left their bodies

because they had lapsed into probably

the theta level for sure and at that

point it was very easy for them to be

running down the street and watching

themselves from above

would you say would you say that most

people are susceptible to these types of

techniques I would say yes absolutely

watching television I believe it was

Thomas Mulholland was a doctor back in

Boston and he did a lot of experimental

work with how long young children how

long if there’s turned on the teeth how

long would it take them to be able to go

into hypnosis and sometimes it was as

short a period as 10 seconds especially

when you take a look then over the years

at the way advertising agencies have

used hypnotic techniques to deepen the

state when people are watching so if we

can if we can zoom out a bit and kind of

cover the other aspects of your work

because I mean your tapes cover a lot of

things and you’ve written a lot of

different books on like soul agreements

and like assertiveness and how to become

more assertive and how to instantly read

people but this idea of soul agreements

and how did you move into this sort of

line of thought that we maybe have

agreements with other people and we’re

karmically connected how did you get

into that well really that goes back to

my first book you’re born again to be

together primarily Xavier the idea that

we come together with other people it’s

by plan people who’ve been together

before say many times they’re going to

come back and they’re going to be

together again and so there are often

times and I mean often that the an

individual will be born into the same

family that they lived in before so in

other words you might be your own

grandpa and so I have a lot of little

cases I will use to describe this was

there I mean if you if we zoom out some


or was there something that you would

attribute as the source of all this were

you able to ever find a so I mean when

you talk about this I picture a sort of

lattice of interconnected sort of

threads or like a source of all things I

mean were you able to get to that point

was herb was there any anything that you

found that kind of blew your mind ah my

mind is constantly continues to be blown

and my wife’s does to who I would say

that over the years and there’s been

quite a few years now it’s spirit and

the inter involvement of spirit with our

life and when you are looking for how

spirit and when I say that I’m really

talking about God ah the idea God is

more and more and more real to me and

God would interact with us in ways that

I just can’t deny and so I see an awful

lot of the magical things that I didn’t

used I was raised

Presbyterian but I didn’t take it very

seriously over the years though as I got

older I continued to read I continued to

study and then called upon God’s help

several times and sometimes where there

was an answer a very quick answer and I

just as no way to deny it so that would

be the glue that held it all together

that we are souls who are here to learn

we’re going to learn as fast or as slow

as we decide to do it we are going to

learn we’re going to perfect our soul

and I can’t you know I’m number one I

can’t tell you what that’s going to mean

if I do that

that was my next question actually Hey

yeah but I have studied with so many

great people just as part of doing my

work in your book early purpose your

research led to a discovery that the

25,000 residents of this Mexican city

all agreed to reincarnate together every

seven hundred years or so for an

important purpose

what was that sounds just so bizarre I

know that but yes that’s what that was a

I decided that when I wrote that book I

was going to have to write it with

whatever came up and then some things

came up I didn’t like um the people of

tio2 akan had the help of

extraterrestrials well that you know I

don’t you know I know extraterrestrials

are real people like Brad Stryker and

other researchers are good friends of

mine and I’ve talked to them for years

and boy they’ve convinced me but I don’t

write about ETS and that sort of thing

and yet I said well if that’s what comes

up I’m going to have to write about it

and then I had to swallow my words

because on that book in particular

everybody and I had hundreds of

participants in that book and they saw

or were involved with the

extraterrestrials who helped to bring

that civilization together when they

needed to and so on what purpose were

they and what was the purpose of their

bringing together these people I would

imagine as best I can remember now it’s

been a while since I wrote that one but

it was in regard to the technology

that’s where the extraterrestrials

seemed to step in when we are in need of


I have taken so many people back to the

Atlantis lifetime I think most people

alive today were alive in Atlantis at

one time or another Edgar Cayce said

Atlantis lasted for a hundred thousand

years so that’s that’s quite a span of

history I doubt that it was a very

advanced civilization for all a hundred

thousand years but there was great et

involvement everything from carving the

Great Pyramid that they used as a source

a power source out of a mountain and

they developed a very advanced society

in many ways like ours today and a lot

of our bad stuff today

so Richard why why do you think our

memories are erased when we reincarnate

and it wouldn’t it be more advantageous

if we remembered these past lives well I

don’t know Xavier it seems to me it’s

hard sometimes for people to deal with

one past life if you had to deal with

hundreds or thousands of past lives I

think our egos could really get in the

way especially if you started finding

out that you were somebody who wielded a

lot of power or was great at a

particular talent or something and to

try to deal with one lifetime people

have a hard time doing that now you have

to deal with the complications of many

lifetimes and maybe many people who were

enemies in your past lives or people

that really helped you it would become a

logistical in my mind just inning

logistical impossibility it would seem

and so it’s not that they’re hidden but

you’re going to have to work on it

to find them but a past life regression

I mean I don’t think I’ve ever had

anyone that I couldn’t easily if they

were interested in the subject

I couldn’t easily slide them in to in a

state of hypnosis or sometimes with the

suggestion that they dream of a past

life and when they come into my office

again next week I could access that

dream with hypnosis but it’s very easy

to pick up the the most important

aspects so oftentimes I will send

somebody back I I’m hypnotizing them

back in to maybe the the lifetime that

is most affecting their current life or

more often than not that’s what I’ll

I’ll instruct them to do so I’m asking

them to go back to a time in the one

life memories of the one life this most

affecting their current life and

wherever they they land so to speak

why I will start moving them around in

time until were located we’re moving

into a a situation where they are

recalling something that seems to be

important to them that they’re coming in

at this time maybe they are trying to

find out why they’ve always had

headaches well this is a case eighty

fiore case it if you re and I our

friends and we work together in the year

stages of our careers but this woman

came to IDI and she had horrible

headaches and she had no reason for them

but every week she’d come down where she

was just incapacitated because of these

awful migraine type of headaches Edie

took her back to the cause and she found

herself as a young girl about seven

years of age one day the parents had

said we’ll watch your sister and it just

infuriated the precocious seven-year-old

who picked up a rock and slammed it down

on the top of her little sister’s head

and killed her and so you know at that

point her father almost killed her and

so these are trauma type events that

you’re you’re going back to essentially

and now you’re healing these traumas yes

you go back to them you forgive yourself

while you forgive other people who are

involved you really it’s more important

that they go through

the experience and so they understand it

it’s not subbing something negative

that’s under the surface just bubbling

and boiling ah like that where she felt

so guilty that she’d killed her sister

so she grew up and at the age of about 7

in the current life she started having

these headaches on a weekly basis so

you’ll find this in every aspect of life

I often times when I’m teaching students

to be hypnotist

I will go through a bunch of life times

that I can cover in about five to eight

minutes I’ll talk about a man a true

case it came to me and he was he said

you know is there anything you can do to

help me I need to make more money and I

should be making more money but every


I’m offered an advancement in my career

I I just panic i I start to sweat and I

can’t focus upon nothing else

so I finally say no just to keep myself

from going crazy and so I sent him back

to the cause to look at why he had an

aversion to taking on more

responsibility in his life he saw

himself as the captain of an old wooden

sailing ship and one night it caught

fire the captain should have been the

last guy off the ship but instead of

robbing the men making sure everyone got

off the ship

he just ran and lured one of the

lifeboats and rode away and it was

complete coward in the way he dealt with


the result of that some of the men

survived he survived they returned to

the little town in England where they’d

all come from and I mean he was

disgraced he would never be given

another skipper position on a sailing

ship and so he had lived probably

several lifetimes in-between unwilling

to take on more responsibilities a full

lifetime I mean you’re you’re expressing

an entire lifetime trying to let go of

this major experience I mean that that

blows me away so when you you have

another one of my kind of favorite tapes

that that you’ve made is your wealth and

success zapper and you call them zappers

but they’re supposed to zap you into

this sort of and they’re very suggestive

and they they kind of just repeat these

phrases but I mean what led you to do

the wealth and success one for something

like wealth and success I would have

been doing a tape that would round out

the line or a CD these

or an mp3 but so it would be in there to

round out the line and I would bring out

and I’ve I know you said 300 titles that

I’ve created actually is closer to 900

as like yes my wife has been finding out

because oftentimes I would just if I had

something and I could replace it or

bring bring out a variation that I

thought could be more effective why I

did and so that I’ve just done so many

over the years Xavier so wealth and

success today would be like most of the

tapes that are the CDs or the mp3s that

I would create I would just gather I

usually start with about 13 suggestions

so I would come up with the 13

suggestions that I felt might be most

effective and this would be one sentence

long and so with that why will string

together several techniques and the

suggestions repeated over and over many

times and string them if it was a zapper

why he that’s 74 minutes of listening to

me give you suggestions and so if you

listen to that very often it’s going to

sink in and it’s but it’s going to be

affected what was the message I mean

what was the I mean after after

everything that you’ve seen and all the

past life regressions that you’ve done

and the the metaphysical aspect of it

and these aliens sort of encounters I

mean what for you what has been the most

I guess the most strong thing that you

have felt towards what our

is here and what we’re doing here on the

planet yeah all right well I think we

have a lot of spiritual messages and

lessons that we should pick up along the

way and we can apply the messages um a

message such as it is your resistance to

what is

that causes your suffering well that

message is so powerful uh it’s just so

incredible your resistance to what is

because your suffering well now that’s

Buddha and when he’s talking about your

resistance to what is

he’s talking about all the things in

life that you resist and that’s what’s

causing our suffering we alone cause our

own success and our own suffering and I

know this as well as I know anything and

I know that I’m going to be writing

about this on a different level and

about the state of mind and about our

resistance and I’ve said things like

this not as eloquent as as Buddha said

them but I mean that one to me just

knocks my socks off because we all

resist so much in life and as a result

the resistance is always fear it’s

always what what causes the suffering

that we experience in our life we are

here and we should be experiencing lives

of blessed freedom and joy and all too

often we are we are creating lives very


as we go along the path or so I know

that that’s what I’m going to have to

write about and I’m going to have to try

to figure a way to bring people into a

state of consciousness at which they can

suggest or or listen to a tape like you

just described or a mp3 and it’ll be a

hundred times more effective because of

the state the level of mine that they

that they are in at the time they

requested and I don’t I thought I don’t

mean to be abstract or weird on this and

it’s probably the best way I can

describe it right now I’m very excited

about it Farren and I was I will send

you one okay that sounds good to me you

know I was gonna I was going to move

towards ending the conversation we do

have about eight minutes here but have

you ever have you ever had I mean if if

we’re talking about going into the past

and our past lives but have you ever

tried going into the future and our

future lives yes and what was the what

was the result of that well the result

was uh you know if somebody is willing

to want to do this ah you can do it you

can go forward I mean it’s a psychic you

go to a good psychic today and the

psychic might be able to tell you a lot

about your life to come you can go you

don’t need a psychic you can go into uh

a hypnotic state and progress forward in

time and you can see all this for

yourself I’ve got here at the company

I’ve got a an mp3 or a CD called it’s a

hypnosis session in which it’s a future


and I have gone in always for a reason

as I had a woman who was just almost

hysterical because she couldn’t um

figure out who she wanted to be with her

husband or her lover and you know that

sounds silly but you know to her that

was the biggest question she couldn’t

until she got that solved she figured

she just couldn’t go on and so that’s

what she was looking for and I thought

damn well I’m gonna have to do something

so I moved her forward um to the

lifetime her future lifetime the next

lifetime and I then regressed her back

from the future life into this one and I

said what did you do did you marry your

lover or did you stay with your husband

and she said I stayed with my husband

but now in this life I could be with my

lover and so she was leaving she was

seeing and who knows what she was really

seeing but she was satisfied by the

experience of being able to see herself

in a future life married to the man that

was her lover in this life Hey I mean

that’s not a convoluted yeah subject and


right what is but it’s it’s very the

work is very very interesting it never

quits uh my wife and I are just it never

went a client and I don’t try to see

that many clients anymore I try to find

time to write and explore other things

but I mean we just always amazed at

who’s coming in the door and and what

they want to find out and but we can

take them there we can

use hypnosis to take them back into the

past usually and find out what caused

this problem today what caused the

feelings they have today and if they

really have to see the future we can do

that one too well Richard I really truly

appreciate your time and I highly

suggest that people check out the large

scope of your work because there is a

lot of it and it is it has helped me

through the years quite a bit and where

can where can people find your website

how do they get there I just go to

www.hsn comm that’s the website and

we’ve got I think around 400 titles up

there now and we’re uh we’ve got about

30 or 40 here we’re going to try to get

up in the next month of some older

titles but they sound we get them

remastered and they sound they sound

good it better than they did originally

excellent well attribute thank you so

much for being here sir this is the

human experience my name is Xavier and

we are going to get out of here we will

see you guys next week

thanks Xavier

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