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Episode 126 – Massimo Pigliucci – Stoicism, Virtue & thriving in a world out of control
A conversation with Massimo Pigliucci
Massimo Pigliucci is a scientist, skeptic, and philosopher, who in recent years has written a number of books on Stoicism. He earned a Ph.D. in Philosophy from the University of Tennessee and is the K.D. Irani…

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Massimo Pigliucci is a scientist, skeptic, and philosopher, who in recent years has written a number of books on Stoicism. He earned a Ph.D. in Philosophy from the University of Tennessee and is the K.D. Irani Professor of Philosophy at The City College of New York. He also has a background in biology, with a PhD in Evolutionary Biology from the University of Connecticut.
He has had articles published in a number of publications, such as Philosophy Now and The New York Times. He has also given a TEDx talk titled Stoicism as a philosophy for an ordinary life.

In this episode we spoke to Massimo on how to live a better life through the application of stoic philosophies.
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“The early Stoics often treated God, nature, truth, and the universe as different names for the same reality. In that sense they believed in God, but not necessarily as a separate supernatural person. Their divinity was embedded in the rational order and laws of the universe itself.”
From the conversation“A modern Stoic may be drawn to what is sometimes called Einstein’s God: confidence in the intelligible order of nature rather than belief in a personal deity. Science is possible because the universe behaves with enough regularity and logic for human reason to investigate and understand parts of it.”
From the conversation“For the Stoics, a good human life applies reason to improve social living. Marcus Aurelius repeatedly urges himself to do what social reason demands. The point of life is to be useful to others and make things better for the community, which also improves the conditions in which one lives.”
From the conversation“Marcus Aurelius begins his Meditations by naming people who treated him well and influenced him for the better. It is an exercise in humility and gratitude. Even a person holding extraordinary power can begin by acknowledging that character is formed through debts to teachers, relatives, friends, and examples provided by others.”
From the conversation“The Stoic goal is to become the best human being you can. That means developing the capacities most characteristic of humanity: reason and social cooperation. The more reasonably and sociably you live—and the more you help society rather than harm it—the more fully you realize human excellence.”
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Massimo Pigliucci
Massimo Pigliucci is a scientist, skeptic, and philosopher, who in recent years has written a number of books on Stoicism. He earned a Ph.D. in Philosophy from the University of Tennessee and is the K.D. Irani Professor of Philosophy at The City College of New York. He also has a background in biology, with a PhD in Evolutionary Biology from the University of Connecticut.
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