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Episode 164 – COVID19, End of the Kali Yuga? Space Origins, Dimensional Physics w/ Richard C. Hoagland

A conversation with Richard C. Hoagland

Richard C. Hoagland. Richard is an author, scientist, researcher and a former NASA consultant and museum space science Curator who has spent his career analysing and investigating the data generated by space missions. Richard served as the science advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS news.

Published
March 20, 2020
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Richard C. Hoagland is an author, scientist, researcher and a former NASA consultant and museum space science Curator who has spent his career analysing and investigating the data generated by space missions.
Richard served as the science advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS news. Richard also hosts: The other side of midnight, which is ranked in the top ten best late night radio shows in the world today.

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joy this conversation the human experiences in session my name is Xavier katana my guest for this evening is Richard C Hoagland Richard is an author scientist researcher and former NASA consultant and Museum space science curator who has spent his career analyzing and investigating the data generate generated by space missions Richard served as the science advice advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS News Richard also hosts the other side of

midnight which is ranked in the top 10 base best late-night radio shows in the world today phenomenal show Richard it’s such a pleasure and an honor sir welcome to XP I had to fix my hair before the show started because I mean I’ve been listening to you Richard for so long I mean back in the the sort of heyday of art Bell God rest his soul but you know I would get this as I was telling you I would get this little clock radio and put it I was just a kid

you know and so to go sort of full circle and to have you on my show tonight with us tonight I am just I couldn’t be more chuffed I’m so happy about this you know a few years ago living with my parents and my siblings in Jersey and the middle of the night the transistor radio those little cheap transistors they were about the size of a pack of playing cards and they played on a small battery and they had a horrible speaker and everything you

heard was totally distorted hmm and you didn’t care anyway I would listen to that little transistor radio to Long John Neville broadcasting from wor across the river Manhattan on a show that basically was the template for the other side of midnight okay even I even stole his theme music oh wow that’s an interesting story I mean who knew you know it’s it seems like the work of generations you know I admire your work so much and I sort of

picked up where I could you know where you left off and the the stuff that you’re doing and the stuff that Art Bell did when he was around and so you know hopefully we can get to the bottom of some of these mysteries that have plagued us our consciousness and I mean it’s it’s really interesting what’s going on in the world today right now Richard because that’s one way I mean the world is on its head and it’s all lighting its snow like this is every

apocalypse that everybody ever wrote that Marvel you know chain pole movie yeah yes it’s not the way the planets supposed to be operating but obviously something far beyond what they’re telling us is going on I know honest great fear for back I’m intrigued that more and more people are using that term because I think I claimed it some years ago the problem is that when you have an unprecedented historical event which in the worst case

scenario predictions the United States alone could kill up to 2 billion people in the next few months you can’t just sit back and do nothing can’t not wonder about all the disparate and frankly confusing and blatantly contradictory data that’s coming in on this and it’s very important to people for listening to keep their heads source things multiple make sure if you’re tracking something very controversial like the Cobra virus is a bioweapon that you

really have your sources down because this really forces us to go back to good old journalism which is don’t take anything is true unless you can get it from three independent sources and it’s very hard on the Internet to know what’s it dependent or what just being passed around mm-hmm I mean it’s it’s it’s really phenomenal what’s going on because I think you know Richard I mean if art bell was talking about this you’ve talked about this I

have mentioned this on my show that we are on we were on the precipice of the threshold of something massive and you know my antenna I were up and and I would talk about this and mention this and now it’s here we are here now we are in the pandemic this is the the proverbial you know has hit the fan and so it’s it’s now it’s it’s circling around in the ceiling and it’s gonna hit the wall and I think I think you know fear is

what’s for sale and business is really booming it’s really good because I think people are afraid people are scared because they don’t know you know what is actually going on it’s it’s like nobody knows what’s going on and I think they’re not knowing is by design I mean when I look at the pattern of official responses to this going back to the first report out of Wuhan which I think was in December I have noticed a bizarre

lagging by our team our guys in doing everything they could to stop this I mean I know what the rhetoric is all you have to do is forget the rather give up the facts there are dated events going on on the record it’s available to everybody like the internet and what the rhetoric is coming out of Washington the White House and all that and what’s really going on are totally separate things there is such foot-dragging but I want to propose a controversial

idea okay what Xavier if this was not accidental if in fact this is a plan pandemic or the whole planet or some purpose some goal some with you that object yeah that’s that’s what I feel too that’s I mean that’s what what my intuition is saying is that there is something larger that we’re not being told about what’s going on really how do we how can we determine what is really I mean this virus is real it’s very real

it’s out there it’s in the wild but we’re not being given the entire full story when when are we ever given the full story about anything that happens ever Franklin’s response to the woman after the second Congress when they finally finished the Constitution a woman asked her you know what kind of government do we have mr. Franklin and he said a republic if you can keep it you know the price of a democracy price of this republic speaking now from the

insular position as a citizen of the United States is to be vigilant because people all the time are trying to put stuff over us I mean this this is not just due to the internet it goes back to you know first forms of government power all that thing about absolute power etc etc so I think citizens have to do is to maintain a constant vigilance and now because we have these exquisite social media feedback mechanisms if we see

something we don’t like if we see something that’s out of line anomalous doesn’t make sense we can let everybody know which means it’s a lot harder for the bad guys to slip stuff over on us provided we go in skeptical and not buying the first order like you know this is the idea this this virus was a transfer from bats to humans in a wet market it whoo hot I know it sounds logical and possible and all that I don’t buy it for a second you know why a

the only level for bio weapons military laboratory for biological warfare in all of China is only 20 miles from downtown roulade you know his art what about ding ding ding ding ding right and to the spokesperson or the Chinese foreign ministry the other day weeks after I speculated on the other side of midnight could this have been an op with the deep state without Trump’s knowledge prepared had done this released this virus in

Wuhan to basically attack China and is the Chinese official foreign ministry response a kind of a veiled confirmation of that model I mean that’s one hypothesis I mean more day here’s more data I have little or no doubt that this is a bioengineer virus that somehow got out that seems no I know yeah how do I know because a Francis Boyle professor Francis Coyle who literally wrote the international treaty on bio warfare by

where the United States ostensibly got rid of its biological weapons in past treaty negotiations going back you know a couple of decades he has come out and said firmly from all his information this is a weapon that somehow escaped or if you want to be really conspiratorial was deliberately released now obviously you got to ask the question why would the Chinese if they’re developing a weapon why would they release it in

their own country and the answer obviously was in this scenario they didn’t somebody else did to make real bad times for the Chinese for even beginning to work on such an awful weapon now there’s also other data there’s a Harvard professor who had Chinese students has been arrested for espionage there’s reports of a Canadian laboratory high level facility with Chinese immigrant workers scientists who were who were basically expelled by

Canada because they stole things from the lab there’s a lot of very murky paper trails as to where this came from but the thing that I find most strike if this was just a natural mutation you’d only expect there to be one string right the Chinese strain of Kobe 19 with me so far yeah in fact now there are reputable papers from Orion researchers in a variety of countries claiming that they’ve now detected different genetic

variants in this disease it’s different in Europe than in China it’s different in the United States than in Europe or in China and the idea of having three simultaneous credibly infectious and dangerous mutations of the same virus all within a few weeks just just doesn’t make sense this looks to be by design so who wants the entire world to get infected with coronavirus 19 and what does it really do besides killing off a percentage of

the elder population what does it really do I mean there’s the meter I mean there’s so many different directions and now data is coming out it seems like the data is changing every few minutes you know the story is changing about what it does and who would effects and I guess I read an article today that was that came out today that twenty to forty twenty to forty years olds were affected by the virus as well that’s true I mean about

this that’s very true right up until like January January I think this was confined to China then the same day that we got our patient zero I guess it was Washington State the South Koreans got their patient zero in South Korea and the two nations began a very very very different set of protocols deal with us the South Koreans have really been able to handle this without torpedoing than committing suicide with their economy the United States no

because we had no testing because our president Richard Richard the minutes ago endemic unit of the National Security Council we’ve done this to ourselves Savior and my question is why the hell have we’re only gonna know that through time right so can we wait with Richard Ben is listening to you we could have a week what can we do about this I mean obviously what’s going on is as you said fear porn I mean this is the status quo

right now they want everyone to be afraid very afraid so how do we not bite into the fear because that seems to be the underlying you know like I said the status quo of it well without adequate testing everybody is potentially carrying this thing without knowing except of course for anybody in in months and months so I’m pretty sure I’m okay for the time being but people who are involved in social interactions you know who go to bars restaurants right

Subway’s there you know the usual normal things of 20 percent real life you’re going to interact with an awful lot of people and a number of those are going to be carrying this have no symptoms and they will give it to you now if you’re young and you’re healthy according to the latest information you do get very sick that’s why they have to take these young kids forties fifties it’s a hospital and put them on ventilators and

intensive care because unless they have intensive care these big dumb people who get this they will die the difference is that young people with intensive care survive sadistically and older people do not I believe the average age of the deaths northern Italy in the Lombardy region is 80 point three of course critics are saying whoopsie most even would have died anyway I mean that’s an aberrant thought because if you have elderly people who have

compromised immune systems or some kind of respiratory problem or they have diabetes or they have cancer or they have a heart disease or any one of a number of factors now then we know the statistics make it more likely we can get this you’re gonna die to say that it wasn’t the Coleman virus that killed them is nuts because if they hadn’t caught the virus they’d still be with us and I see people Xavier it’s shocking who basically say well if we do nothing

it won’t affect most of population and we need those deaths to build up the so-called bird immunity Richard let’s zoom out let’s zoom out okay let’s I under I know my audience I understand you know everything you’re saying right now so what I want to do is I want to zoom out to the larger picture and I want to talk about you know where we are headed what could be the possible implications of what has happened well I’m moving you to wait wait wait a

second hold on a second let me just finish let me just finish my body my question no no I don’t want to hang on just let me just finish what I was gonna say and then you can speak please don’t interrupt me please so all I was gonna say was you know if we are what are the possible you know results of this are we moving into a cashless society or is this a mechanism of controlling people even more are we being invaded by aliens

I mean what is going on and you know hopefully you can answer that remember this is a very complicated story so pieces of it need to get sequence since everybody is being driven nuts with airport you know they think if they’re gonna get this they’re gonna die and the latest statistics are that if you’re a gun that you get this you can get very very sick and if you don’t get to the hospital yes would probably die the problem is that all these young people

who are partying there’s no tomorrow on the beaches of Florida you I presume I’ve seen the aerial photographs right yeah if they get sick and they’re rushed to the hospital they were overwhelmed the limited hospital facilities that we have here in the United States and that means an awful lot of people are going to die because they literally will not be able to get medical care breathe so there are two things we need to keep in mind this

is not a disease without a cure there is new information coming out of Stanford which I was astonished last night to see actually was being touted by Fox and there is a there’s a Stanford study I’m getting hoarse there there’s a Sanford study which shows that if people who have no symptoms but are tested positive for the virus take a drug that’s being out in the public sector since 1945 it’s called chloroquine mm-hmm it’s another

form is called Koro Quine forget the rest of it but it’s on the website do you have that stanford paper if not i will send it to you I’ve read it I did come across that and I did read it I did see it and what they were implying was that this malaria drug that people use when they are in when they go down to like South America or something like that you know they prescribe this drug for malaria and it actually destroys the

gokova 19:00 virus it actually disrupts what’s happening in the exam yes if you if you go and look at the paper you’ll see microscopic slides showing the virus in a petri dish with various dosages of the sparkline and the final slide it’s pitch black it’s eliminated all the virus with a very small dosage taken a couple times a week so you can take it prophylactically meaning you can get it for the doctor’s prescription can’t get it over the

counter it’s gotta marry doctor but it’s freely available here in the United States personal supplies run out apparently it’s harder to get in other parts of the world and I’m not quite sure why because malaria is a major problem in certainly swampy jungle mosquito infested parts of the planet like Panama Thailand etc cetera so I’m I’m wondering why we could still get it here but you can’t get it other places and the good news is this is a study

conducted by really reputable folks it’s not a pipe dream it’s not you know lost hope if you take it before you are exposed it will prevent percentage of the population from getting this and if you take it after you have the symptoms apparently it helps a lot moderate the symptoms and kill off the virus which is exactly what you would want the best of all possible worlds and it’s really really really cheap and simple to make

okay dosages are horrendous pain so so you should put that paper we will his credibility is everything now in the internet put that paper up on your website point out that it’s Stanford research a number of mainstream doctors they would not put their reputations on the line and claim this unless it was true Richard let’s let’s do let’s zoom out what would be the larger purpose of having people shelter in sausages a beer

please would you let me go my own pace you do this you have a script I don’t have a script there’s no script you mean stop telling me to speculate about things I don’t know I mean I’m not gonna I want to hear understand your opinion that’s why we had Shane I want to deal with the disease first I want to specially about where it porn where it came from second so let me give you the second breakthrough are you aware of sherry Edwards work you asked

me about this before the show no I don’t work late doesn’t ring a bell off the top of my head yet sherry Edwards for the last 30 years has been working with patients with all kinds of diseases and treatment protocols with people that have literally insoluble medical crises that would have died if they had not come to her and she has fixed them I have done three shows I think with sherry either as the main guest on the other side of

midnight or as a contributory guest with a panel of other people and I had a major film actor from Hollywood who became her patient several years ago and he was medical community had given up on they said just go home and die there’s nothing we can do sherry Edwards protocol fix it so what does she do on her website what you do is you log into her website I will give you this link after the show put it up on her site if you want it’s up on the

other side of midnight you log on to Sherry’s website with a microphone which has to be a broad-spectrum microphone so that it catches all the frequencies of your voice you literally record about 30 seconds of audio and then her computer program analyzes the sound frequencies in your voice and in terms of per word for the last 30 years those frequencies correspond to elements and parasites and nutritional deficiencies and diseases to

which you are exposed at the moment you make the recording so then what she does she takes them she takes that recording and she gives you a protocol of frequencies that you listen to me through headphones and the frequencies Thanks what is raw I remember that show now yeah it is running and it’s breakthrough and it just needs replica Tory trials there are several health care workers after the first show we did for our adopting Sherri’s technique

they’re in touch with earth they are exposing their own patients to these protocols people have severe respiratory problems so we can see if they get better quickly and they’re getting better quickly now they don’t have coded but cope it is a is a corona virus it’s one of the family of viruses some of which produce the common cold so if you test this on one illness or two illnesses or three the likelihood is because the illness itself is systemic

to this idea this hypothesis but it’s really about modulating frequencies in the so called torsion feel but that’s what the body really is doing when it takes supplements or takes food or takes you know if just nutrients it’s easily rearrange encino mix within your body and you can do it either with material stuff molecules or you can do it by corrected frequencies I know this sounds Radek radically like like magic no it’s

not it’s really advanced science and again we’re trying to build up a database of patients with logs with files with you know contact information so I mean we had one woman who literally had gone to her doctor the day before and she found that she literally had the flu documented the day after she went through this protocol and her symptoms were gone in ten minutes and that went back to the doctor and said where’d the

Peugeot you shouldn’t be in bed for two weeks so we’re in look we’re working up a list of people for whom this works and the coronavirus is don’t do any other virus it attaches to you know your cells the same way it needs receptor it’s binding agents at each a whole lifecycle to replicate it overwhelm you and kill you if you can interrupt that cycle with frequencies can you imagine people all over the world who are desperate for hope now all they do is

use their social media and their microphones and their headsets and they dial into her website and they can become immune and if they do catch it they can be cured by an appropriate playback of the right frequencies so you know it it does seem that there are mechanisms of fighting this that are holistic and it’s really interesting because I remember this rash of deaths that of holistic doctors do you remember this Richard this happened I mean this

was happening and I was a huge bunch of microbiologist who suddenly wound up dying all over the planet so you look incredibly suspicious like somebody didn’t want these smart guys and women around when something was going down so you know I’m curious to know do you think I know you’ve studied the Kali Yuga you know cycles and the span of them and what happens in them you’ve done shows on them which I’ve loved are we nearing the end cycle of a Kali Yuga

re changing cycles well as you know I’ve had some guests on including Vedic experts from India who claimed that the Kali Yuga cycle ends in 2025 I’m a little bit skeptical of such a precise date because there’s been such controversies over the antiquity of the Kali Yuga self-value Yuga cycles themselves the you know the ancient Vedic texts the equivocation of names and numbers and years and assigning here is a certain span of time but what I can

say is that just look around the planet and you look at the measurements that I did with droppin all over the world with the Accutron the physics is unquestionably changing dramatic and my feeling is it’s correlated with the end of the processional cycle the so called no.20 bumps syndrome the full Mayan calendar thing except when Robin and I went to Chichen itzá and I was able to measure the Kali Yuga not the cover you could be

got frequencies of the Cooper Khan pyramid it was then that I realized that probably the 2012 date was wrong because the original archaeologist back in the 1940s who tried to translate the Stella from the Mayan Long Count to adjust it to be in sync with the Gregorian calendar I think they messed up by three or four years and which means that 2012 really didn’t happen until the transition between 2016 and 2017 that’s the real end of the Mayan calendar as my

astronomical recomputation of that calendrical translation would have it and lo and behold the world radically changed between 2016 and 2017 did it tha it did I mean there have been several cycles where it seems like the world as we knew it has changed radically but not like this not quite like this ever recorded unprecedented you know so I I’m curious you know what you think Richard of what could be the possible direction

of where is this going where is this leading towards without without injecting any fear porn you know I just I’m just curious to know your perspective you’ve talked to so many leading scientists research authors and you know just were brainstorming live on air well again I don’t want to hyper because fear paralyzes people can’t think when they’re if they nobody was hyping any fear porn whatsoever that is not the objective of this conversation I’m

trying to quell the people are just freaking out as they have to stay inside for a couple of weeks I mean I’m on a couple weeks I live even if it’s six weeks or eight weeks or 18 months of cares we have never been more connected to each other by all these technological means then we have been before I mean we’ve got the Internet we’ve got tick-tock we’ve got Twitter we’ve got Skype we’ve got zoom we’ve got mmm Instagram I mean I have

seen I know you’ve seen this a million times to go to a restaurant right and you see a table with four people and they’re out for dinner and you say oh isn’t that nice and they’re all sitting there within two feet of each other staring down at these stupid things in their hands with their phones so they’re not even talking to so why are they freaking out that they can only talk to each other for a few weeks maybe by going through Instagram or Skype or

whatever as opposed to being face-to-face in a restaurant but that will keep their grandparents alive that will keep the the old folks down the street alive in other words are we so selfish now that with this incredible cornucopia of technological wonders I’m not talking about the economic that’s a that’s a different thing people are having to stay home without jobs is a horrible thing thank god they’re a boob that’s going on in Washington to get

money to be I’m just talking about people who I you’re emotionally freaking out but they have to be they didn’t have to stay inside you can go outside to walk walk the dog you can go to this grocery store you just can’t hang out like those idiots in Florida and contaminate everybody to take it to people but we now know are going to die if they get this without treatment I agree with you completely it’s it’s like a petri dish and so it just shows that

it shows a huge disrespect to you know just what’s going on other people the space of other people and it’s quite offensive to see behavior like that when everyone else is you know doing their best to follow you know what we’re being told and the rules were staying inside and you know then other people are kind of just on the well if you listen to my show I just you have every weekend you and listen to me talk about the visits

on the other side of it let’s talk you know you know that one of the mantras that I’ve been saying not for years basically impelled by this change of the physics which affects not only beagles and begonias is you know save you would have said but human beings consciousness astrophysics geology the weather this physics modulates everything right if it’s changing it’s gonna affect consciousness and the effect I’ve seen

on consciousness overwhelming over and over and over again for the last several years now is the good are getting better and the bad are getting worse all these self-involved are cystic idiots parading around on the beaches of Florida when Florida is a state full of seniors think of it you can’t go anywhere and fight about bumping into a senior citizen are these people that’s stupid that they want to just kill them all off or don’t

they believe it and the reason they don’t believe it is because politically there’s almost one half of the political spectrum which has been saying for weeks now it’s a hoax it’s just you know it’s just fake media it’s just those folks lying again and they’re people who had believed this and now those folks have changed their tune and I was very happy to see that Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity on Fox last night talk to

the Stanford study as a as an antidote to the awful fear form they’ve been spreading by basically claiming it’s all nothing just you know run your daily life as if there’s nothing going on because that of course kill the very people that you love mm-hmm yeah I mean there was there’s a doctor dr. Sarah Konrath and she did an empathy and narcissism and the the changes in it and how it used to be that most people were empathetic and they

would relate with others and there was a low level of narcissism and then it flicked and now most people are narcissistic they sort of gravitate towards narcissism and there’s less people that are empathetic are we sure that’s true or is it observational selection because depending upon what media did you use to find your sample you can get different populations in the same population that will maybe kind of tend toward that remember the good are

getting bad it’s just I’m seeing these social changes going on around us at such speed and we’re finding simultaneous that we have horrible news and really great news in this you know the same broadcast it’s like we’re being given choices which path are we going follow despair or oh and there’s real hope out there you’re saying that it’s it’s possible for us to choose which path we decide to select based on what we think in the

vibration that we’re resonating at yep yep so if we choose the path of you know peace and harmony and those things we selected yeah the community a safe way cuz right now you know it’s I mean when Robin and I and of course you know I’m mr. Desmond my condolences she would sew up to her eyebrows helping people if she was here and all of this I mean the worldwide pandemic that you go to help you know fix but we went to

Central America and we were sitting at a little restaurant where we were measured keeps Anita and our whole crew was there the NBC crew and we noticed our producer was sitting at a table you know this little restaurant couple tables over mul by herself she had a laptop open on the on the table and she had a set up for dinner for one and we wanted to invite her over to our table you know community and she looked up and she smiled she

says no I’m having dinner with my significant other I looked at the screen and there he was on skype in New York and here we are in the middle of Walla Walla in a jungle and they were having dinner together via the internet and I say to myself why can’t people understand how incredibly blessed we are we can see each of our loved ones for this period that we don’t want to infect but we can talk to them we can communicate you could share things I

mean I would get anything about your Skype call but I’m so sorry man I mean I I remember that episode I remember when she passed and it’s been here it doesn’t seem like the ear to see but but if I could just see her so everybody out there calmed down you can see the people you love this too will pass this is not the end of everything on the end of civilization and all that fear born this is a transition for instance I’ll give

you an example you want to hear a positive side to this please so many corporations now realize as my old friend arthur c clarke told me 30 years ago he said to me this is the dark age 30 years ago he said dick anybody who commutes more than 30 seconds from office to all is a fool and now of course we have all of these corporations with huge resources setting up the mechanisms so that parents can be parenting their kids at home keeping

them safe doing productive jobs by ask I presume or whatever and still interact with each other but not infect the community and therefore implicate you know terrible things for civilization as all its going to change I think let me get through this I think we’re going to be better as a culture because we’re going to value more the personal contact that we can’t have right now and we’re going to decide we’re going to use that

in social situations where personal contact is everything yes as opposed to where it’s just because we’ve always done it that way and the technology didn’t let us do it any other way and now the telecommuting technology is there so that we could restructure time so that it’s more human this I think is gonna wind up with making society certainly Western society or human in that the personal needs of family and friends and personal time is going to

become more valued as we realize what we’ve lost temporarily because it’s deity rias if we’re so selfish to go out and try to hug everybody yeah I mean I was I was just thinking that actually I was thinking about how much we take for granted the things that are right in front of us and now you know that they’re no longer right in front of us no longer that we have access to them directly and I was at the grocery store

the other day Richard and you know it it it really struck me how easy we have things and how much I appreciate just small things how meaningful it is just to be able to go to the grocery store in a normal way you know yeah and and I said sure thingies please as you said at the beginning of the program you know um you interrupt my might you interrupted my thought he got me what you know like I just my point being was just that

you know we we’ve we’ve been so it wired to be this way and I think what you said at the beginning where this is not normal for a planet to endure I mean why why do you think this is occurring then Richard to me do you think well one of the possibilities again without hyping the fear part cited source of course I’ve been watching obviously president our president is is that normal I think everybody would agree so I watched very carefully

because I keep saying to myself often someone achieving back position wind up doing whatever he’s presented with a choice everything wrong and I know there’s a lot of Trump people out there screaming at the you know radio right now is that oh my God he’s an a/d no I’m just watching someone do everything like for instance you say to media on record months it’s a hoax it’s all gonna go away it’s gonna be like a miracle it

will never have happened and that kind of thing it’s on record you can’t take the words back because you said them and then yesterday you come out and say well I always thought this was a pandemic long before the World Health Organization call it no you didn’t you said it was a hoax so we’re living through this whiplash where what we hear from officials yesterday is not the same thing they’re saying today and again this I believe is endemic to this

bizarre I’m in the physics the processional cycle where things just go caddywhompus it’s almost like Xavier half of the population can’t talk to the other half of the population they’re talking ask them they’re talking through them but they’re not talking with them it’s like they’re saying the same words but each side to them those words mean something radically different and I’m looking at this and this has been going on out for

at least three years and I’m saying I wonder if this is another symptom of this transition between Vedas between the cycle the Yuga cycles because during those times everything gets very noisy and confused and contradictory it’s almost like dissonant frequencies blasting you like think fingernails on a blackboard compared to a Gregorian chant one is pleasurable the other is ah I can’t stand them dissonant frequencies break

so think back to your Western Bible remember the first time god looked down and decided that he didn’t like what was going on and wanted to destroy humanity what happened as a result of that intervention by God in the Western pipe plagues right and then afterwards that was the cataclysms and afterwards the flag would not communicate divided language I’m beginning to think that that ancient ancient cautionary tale is applying not to you know like Esperanto

or English or Sumerian or Akkadian or whatever I’m thinking it applies to the idea that even if people speak the same language at some point in terms of consciousness they’re not communicating and that’s what the biblical reference is telling us and it’s connected to major terrestrial changes is it not in the Bible is that what we’re going through is this a is this a kind of a signal that something is coming it’s physical and this is only

a prelude to a lot more complexity and problems up ahead again I don’t know but I’m just raising this as a possibility because again while we have time there are things we could be doing that we’re not doing now and we need to do that as a community but we need to do them socially distancing ourselves physically I mean imagine if this happened we didn’t have all this technology that’s true that’s a good point imagine if you were really isolated and

you couldn’t see people for weeks and there were no such things as delivery services no such things as communications that would allow you to talk to your great-grandmother on the other side of the planet and see her in real time or have dinner with someone 2,000 miles away even though they could be at the same table Richard would it be okay if we talked a bit about you know a muumuu ah and these space no it’s in money I really wanted

to act it all together that leads directly into my next speculation I want to clearly label this as a speculation okay I’ve been looking at the trend since Trump was elected of the things he’s done as opposed to things have said but one of the big recurring themes that he’s both talked about and then accomplished was the creation of this whole new military service the so-called space force right is it possible the space force

is part of this Tobin 19 equation is it possible that this has not been developed by the US or the Chinese or the Russians or the Indians or the PLO or the Israelis or anybody down here suppose this virus is coming to us from upstairs Wow and let me give you a potential enemy remember Richard Dahl ever had Richard Owen no no please continue please continue Richard Dolan is the originator of the so-called breakaway civilization yes yes yes yes

yes which is that after World War 2 the Germans with their incredibly advanced are indeed into limitless energy anti-gravity propulsion biomechanical immortality all bunch of other top-secret stuff that Hitler and his guys rid too they took all that and they live in the earth they became the 800 pound grill of the old joke man grill asleep anywhere it wants to well where does a breakaway civilization with hyperdimensional physics and torsion

field technology sleep anywhere in the solar system it wants to and they’ve been developing separately according to several lines of evidence I mean you’ve heard these stories over and over and over again about the secret space burger well there’s more than one there’s the breakaway out there there’s the corporate secret black ops groups down here and there’s been this tension building between them for 70 years is it possible the breakaways have

decided it’s time to move in on earth and this virus is a deliberate effort to begin to call terrestrial populations starting with the boat the Nazis who love to kill off the elderly first you wanted speculation okay okay we’re getting somewhere now i mean i its interested you richard i mean this is this is the the mind food i know that we’re just speculating we’re just playing a thought game but i mean that’s that’s what the best thing is about you

is that you allow you know my mind to go into a place where you know I wouldn’t originally have taken it you know I mean so the spaceforce connecting that those two things together I don’t I don’t think I’ve heard anyone else mentions and other folks to to fight them it’s obvious is this a sucker punch by the bad guys because they see what Trump and Al are building which would be a counterforce from the planet that could basically

hold our own and protect the planet against them remember earth is the only inhabitable planet the whole solar it’s a blue jewel imagine if you want to preserve their here here’s another wild speculation have you noticed the amount of carbon emissions on the planet in the last two months has been done treating radically like nothing that Dane Wigington and the other you know climate change researchers have been looking at

as a politically prepared to this you can look now on the satellite imagery and places like northern Italy recovered and smog are now crystal clear the purposes and the Swans are returned to the canals in Venice yes exactly yes it’s like when you see that gross hydrocarbon industrial civilization when you curtail it the earth desperately tries to return to homeostasis to normal to a more benign and life-giving environment we just need to give her

half chance is it possible the there’s some mad genius somewhere and we won’t name any names but let’s say they realize that if they inserted this into the global population given a specific characteristic so we’ll go back to that in a minute it would have the effect that everybody would have quarantine governments have to shut down the economy would have to be brought to a halt for time being and the planet given a chance to recover from the hydrocarbon

and again this is one of those awful Hobson’s choices where in this scenario someone said ok for this to work we’re going to save X number of billion people because we’re gonna save the planet but a certain number of millions of people because of the virus are gonna die did someone make that horrible awful agonizing choice because they see the start problem of the planet itself dying unless Western hydrocarbon civilization

is given other options presented socially with other possibilities for instance if as we were saying earlier wanted again implications of this if you look her and said ok all of this not going to stores restaurants whatever when things are back to normal suppose corporate America decides that having millions of people commuting to offices each day burning how many million gallons of gasoline on the road sitting like in LA in the world’s

largest parking lot is not useful for the environment and it’s more cost-effective to have people telecommuting from home in a big way those who basically just handle information it’s one thing if you’re you know working for Ford or Chrysler or GM cuz they just closed their plants because you got can’t they card yet without people robots eventually will be able to make an entire car but fortunately for the time being there’s

still stuff to people to do so they have jobs which of course gets us back to the whole idea of a universal basic income andrew yang Mitt Romney picking up on that the other day and actually proposing as Republican the government send everybody a check for $1,000 or $2,000 a month until this crisis passes there are some very positive thing Savior that could come out of this the only problem is if someone designed this to produce those

at the expense of the numbers now would be about 2 million deaths in the United States among seniors alone yeah what kind of price are we willing epicly to pay for our own narcissists degreed where we can’t transition to alternative technologies while we have time unless we are forced to and this is forcing us to I mean we have to do this now right and I mean we now see what the benefits are you don’t all drive on the roads

every day I’d sit there for two hours trying to get through stupid office but we’ll humor exact the markers going back to our newspapers statement you still with me mm-hmm so you know I love the trajectory that that you’re talking about and you know I can hope that humanity learns from this and I mean there have been so many guests that you’ve had on the show a couple I don’t remember their names offhand but there was a guest that was

working on you know you’ve you’ve you’ve touched on free energy devices and harnessing this technology in every single time there seems to be this point that these people get to where they’re like oh whoa I would never patent this because if I did I would put myself in danger yes I mean working out there actually I’ve seen one technology which we’re looking at helping which actually does have a US patent but it needs a market and

now because of this shattering change in our entire global economy one of the again one of the positive things that come out of this is people more willing to look outside the box for technologies which are life-giving and life sustaining even if they’re taboo is it possible that we exist in a simulation Richard well if we did how would we know what would be your clues if I saw you know the same sort of code that we use

to code things in a programming language I saw that same type of code in the math that makes up our reality perhaps there would be a you know correlation but I’m not sure if it would be a causation yeah that’s always been the problem that we’ve had years looking at this whole 19.5 signature thing the idea to describe tetrahedron and rotating planets and energies coming up and it’s coming to us by means of hyperspace that

could all be an elegant computer algorithmic coding that’s kind of like a clue that we’re not looking at reality we’re looking at a new simulation I mean that’s one of the possibilities that over and over again recurrence of 19.5 just throughout the universe could be telling us that our universe was designed and we’re sitting on somebody’s desktop a lot a few of those really interesting programs Star Trek The Next Generation explain explain what 19.5 is

to the listener if you take a plant let’s say the earth or Jupiter and you examine carefully you’ll see that the largest upwellings of energy on earth benefits itself as hot and on Jupiter manifests itself as a convective upwelling of hot gases occurs at 19.5 north and south on planets of the solar system all they have to do is add mass and rotate and even on on Neptune but the Voyager spacecraft got their clue by 1989 we discovered to our

amazement there was a dark spot on Neptune and I actually posted a paper before NASA had come out with their numbers predicting that the spot put the spacecraft saw for millions of miles away was going to be at nineteen point five and lo and behold it was sciences nothing if it’s not prediction so if this pattern of the 19.5 signature is telling us something about a universe that’s been designed with certain parameters then when you find this

example again and again and again you have to ask yourself is it the universe doing it or is it humans here on earth trying to imitate a universal pattern to make things happen and that gets us back to the idea of our reliving from the design simulation where someone has given us this very clue that in fact ultimately we are living in a simulation hmm what about what about this hyperdimensional physics you bring it up

a lot I mean how can we connect the dots there because I mean there there’s a lot of this in play I mean it’s always in play through intention you know where you direct your attention but also could there be a way to harness it I mean is I mean is is all the fear and panic that we’re generating feeding you know something that’s out there that could be hyper dimensionally active okay there is a myth going on that perpetual motion

machines cannot exist yet they’re all fake dudes that are all lies they’re all you know the imagination of their were a bit deluded and the answer of course is that’s not true in order for you to get energy from nowhere there needs to be another source that’s all just having to figure out a way to either in nature or through technology open a gate between our three-dimensional reality and a higher dimensional invisible reality which

surrounds our reality and modulates it and that’s where the whole hyperdimensional physics model comes in because here is there oh well that’s one of the terms I prefer the ether or the torsion feel because these are frequency analog waves that are interacting they’re not digital database and that whole analog world is where the energy transfers take place I mean give me an example we send a spacecraft to Pluto right which is this little ice ball

sitting 4 billion miles from the Sun we’re on a good day the temperature is never above 300 below zero Fahrenheit which is the freezing liquification or the liquid nitrogen and what do we find as we fly by Pluto we flying a world absolutely amazingly geologically active with geysers and with an atmosphere and sluggishly moving pools of liquid nitrogen and something like you know geology active geology on a world which is smaller than the moon

located four billion miles from the center of energy and light the Sun and it’s this dynamic world which is circled by five objects five moons that also are not obeying normal celestial mechanics rules when NASA was able to take a close look look at them and I look at the Pluto system Xavier and I say obviously this was a system designed by our great-great-great-great great ancestors before the solar system went to hell in

a handbasket and it was designed to produce an example of how hyperdimensional physics literally keep a world alive because the interaction among the five so-called boons of Budo included Charon and Charon itself in the hyper dimensional model is ducting enough energy into Pluto right now to keep it geologically active and that’s what the mainstream NASA guys are never going to tell you in fact I’ve had people planted in

audiences when Alan Stern does these presentations on on the Pluto mission you know the Horizons mission and they deliberately ask him dr. stern where is the energy coming from to drive what we’re seeing going on a poodle right now and every time he’s asked this question he clams up and leaves the stage you won’t answer it can’t answer it because that will open the doorway to the unseen physics were never supposed to know

about which may come out of the woodwork because of this earth corona virus calamity we can hope so and we can we can hope well we can also try to force River we can push it like mad which I’m doing with the other sign of midnight I’m going to do at least maybe one show devoted partially each weekend to various aspects of this virus story this narrative including the developing work of sherry and her colleagues and this resonance protocol

that someone who has the corona virus they’re exposed for few minutes to these frequencies they get better and one of her practitioners is working with a woman in blog in northern Italy remotely is remembered the whole Bell nonlocality theorem also plays into this if it’s truly hyperdimensional truly ether you don’t need to be in the same room to get this to work you can do this anywhere kind of like remote viewing tip to promote healing and

that’s what they’re working on that we will be presenting the results of those experiments in the coming days and weeks we must provide people with real hope based on the real physics of how to deal with this and a whole bunch of other planetary problems we have today I mean people are gonna have so much time to explore these other areas of life where as before you know they were working these nine-to-five jobs and they come

home they’re exhausted they have to deal with her yeah dinner now they have time to explore this stuff truly and get their kids and hopefully there’s stimulus packages we get paid it was back on the sixties we would all get together and we would you know fix dinner and we bring it in on trays we’d sit on the couch and we’d all watch maverick together or the twilight zone or the Alaskans or any one of a number of these shows that was a communal

family experience and during the commercials we would talk to each other about was going on in the show we would socialize we would interact we had a time the sports in those days you know television was live and it poured it so you either would be there or be square can you imagine all of the binge watching but with everything I mean look at the choices we’ve got look at the big screens look at the stereo systems look

at the you know delivery services we can get through this folks this is not the worst thing that ever happened provides at the genomics are being watched and there are two bills now going through Congress that are going to make a lot of people whole and are also going to work a long way toward transforming the economics of being the low man on the totem pole ie the worker and it’s all being occasioned by this stupid virus doesn’t it make you

think maybe somebody has released this by design was my first thought actually I’ve always wanted to ask you Richard about the myth of Superman you know you talk I mean you talked about a little bit on the show your show but I haven’t heard you bring it up again since that and I think you were gonna do an episode on it but you never really did that I did I recall that I know I’m pursuing the right book and I can’t track it down

yet but if I don’t get him I’ll get someone else but to me the whole Superman myth which of course exploded on this nation you remember when no 1939 twice 92.5 I see and what are the elements of the Superman myth he’s powered by the Sun distant planet super advanced civilization who then sent up sends refugee to earth to basically keep Earth from doing the same thing now we look at our work in the solar system what do we

find from NASA and Russia and Chinese and Japanese and Indian and other spacecraft data the remains of an ancient civilization based on a planet where there are not asteroids which blew itself up which sent refugees to earth to keep it from happening again see where I’m going mm-hmm yeah so so we are all the supermen and with yes and our powers go up and down with changes in the physics can you imagine at the right time and

you disciples if instead of having to build a machine to keep yourself warm you can literally just think yourself warm and ducked in energy from the ether and completely maintain a non entropic environment around you just by mental and consciousness technique now be amazing yeah well we’re seeing in sharri’s work how people think about these buyers and the environment the frequency environment they’re exposed to changes

its effect on them it goes away and that’s at the bottom of the cycle can you imagine if we’re coming to a transition if this really is the end of the Kali Yuga and the beginning of I forget opening cycle is we’re going to be seeing as Wilcox Vicente Wilcox all kinds of things that look to be miracles but they’re not because they’re just part of the physic which is coming back and June so that we could live on earth the way we were intended to live and

that be something again this is not just speculation it’s amenable to experiment we can set I mean I’m sitting here literally talking to you and on the other side of the room I have one of Charlie’s ESA’s pyramids that we talked about on the show a few weeks ago that amplifies the physics it’s just like a wireframe diagram of a small of their tall tippy-tappy skinny pyramid kind of like the memory pyramids in Africa I’ve got it sitting here in the living

room and I’ve got a very sick house plant sitting in the middle of it so I can test what the effect is of this amplified energy on the biology of this sick little plant if you’re working I don’t know I know that for about 45 minutes and I felt very strange for the rest of the and I slept like a baby last night I have not slept you know much at all and I had my first really good night’s sleep and the reason is that this pyramid works the way you think it

is not only does it do things when you’re inside it but it has a positive effect on the environment around it or like 10 or 20 feet Richard explain explain the pyramid structure to the people that don’t don’t know what you’re talking about please well you know the pyramid looks like right sure we’re sighted four corners you can have four sided pyramids you can have three sided curve it’s called tetrahedrons it turns out in the

physics who actually measure the energy dynamics of stuff going on in pyramids the very pyramidal shape plus what they’re made out of the the actual material in classic pyramids were talking in a limestone calcium carbonate that Tyrael assemble all in one place with that geometry interacts with the ether with the streaming torsion field in a way that amplifies the effects of the field on materials either within the pyramid or in their proximity it’s

amazing isn’t it it’s a solid state super 21st century advanced science and technology coming to us from thousands of years ago by cultures even then they didn’t know I don’t think how it worked I think it was handed down to them from the leg see cultures I get lavish that kind of thing and that gets back to that we had planetary wards before where we have been social kicked back to the Stone Age that we don’t remember almost anything

about how light used to be before the fall think about the fall is the fall not just know how to be being kicked out of the Garden of Eden but actually 66 million years ago when the last extraordinarily advanced ethical eyes civilization if the solar system was destroyed by an interplanetary super war which wound up literally destroyed one of the planets and living in a broken solar system a broken physics as a result which has not been fixed which

I’m very curious about why has it fixed and which only comes back into what you consider to be a kind of a human-like phasing condition maybe once every thousand years as that your disciples change by a procession so if if the Egyptian pyramids were some sort of terrestrial marker then what would be my marker as in a point in which the pyramids are placed to where I was gonna go was to sort of stave off some sort of other event I mean if if the pyramid

creates this sort of energy structure automatically by it through its shape then I mean what would be the point of building a massive huge huge one out of granite well you don’t build them out of crap you built the interior chambers out of grab it if you build the bulk look here without at limestone limbs to his count house iam carbonate if you actually look at the molecule calcium carbonate the crystal do you know that geometrically

it has exactly safe shape itself oh no I had no idea Stan tenant found this out whoever built the Pyramid of Giza with the 51:58 minute angle that’s the exact geometry angle of the material the limestone blocks the pyramids built out of why because calcium carbonate is a hyper dimensionally active material that you want to build a huge solid state machine to amplify that physics you build it the same geometry because you get the same

resident frequencies around and I think based on the work of Charles whose work I cannot recommend highly enough you probably should get a link to his website see his name please charm seats see I ESP pronounce Zeke’s okay he’s got a web site I think it’s called star pyramids or something like that anyway once he discovered with a little help from his friends like Payton was that the pyramids over time seemed to have

geometrically change from the kind of squat ones we see in Egypt to the tall skinny ones we see just south of Egypt the so called Beirut arrogance okay what would be appointed that ah painting geometry and geometry is merely a solid-state reflection of frequency then you’re changing the geometry because you need to keep your solid state frequency correlation it residents with changes in the field and there’s several of these

pyramids in the south of Egypt they’re in those nations what to make of that one they’re not called me I actually had the picture up on the enterprise website it on the side of midnight website but you can see side by side taken the stunning panorama by the National Geographic that these pyramids over time dramatically a drastically change in their geometry and several of them you can see they built them up in the the you know classic Egyptian style

and then halfway through building them they change the angle so the top of the pyramid has a different geometry than the base the same as the Red Pyramid in Egypt itself lay over that right one it’s called the bent pyramid rises up a certain angle then it changes angle and the classic interpretation has been well the guys I’m trying to build a pyramid they realized once they built it they got higher and higher it was too steep

was going to collapse so they changed the angle so would collapse that’s the mainstream explanation of prophecy and I think it’s totally wrong I think because it takes a lot of years to build a pyramid these legacy civilizations were imitating this ancient science and physics they they knew about it through their sacred texts but they didn’t have you know the materials said Moroccan stone granite limestone to do this out of it

so they used what they had at hand okay and as they were building these pyramids the physics changed and they had to change the corresponding geometry of pyramid they were building otherwise it would work it’s about frequency magic it’s all about residence going back to sherry Edwards work Wow I mean that’s a good point to pause and let you know what the time is we’ve got about five minutes left Richard so you know I

want to give you a chance to wrap this together in your own way and you know perhaps you know mention something to the people who are you know listening or going to listen to this will include your website well I’ll give you a chance to do that but you know is there a message that you want to give to people that that are gonna be hearing this this episode yeah I think we’re base we were poised on the edge of us of a cascade of stunning positive

revolutions and whether it’s by design or it’s just because that’s the way the cookie is crumbling we’re being a chant given a chance now as a planetary civilization to kind of look around and take stock of a whole bunch of things we automatically have been doing like social program or inherited habits that happens this is giving us a pause to make choices it’s ultimately all about choice we have a choice that we can

decide when we come through this either with the treatments or with cherries frequencies or the development of a vaccine or whatever we’re gonna get through and culturally and in terms of government they’re gonna make money available they’re gonna print money like there was no tomorrow it’s gonna get us through this what kind of a society do we want on the other side he’s kind of like title and I show the other side of

midnight when we get to the other side of midnight in this dark hour what kind of sunrise do we want to add do we want to commute just a mindlessly work where we could do that home or do we want to only commute to meet with friends with family to take in wonderful experiences like you know theme parks natural wonders the Grand Canyon one of my friends just before they closed the border between Canada and the United States was able to take

this family to the Grand Canyon blew his kids minds this may give us Savior the pause to think about the choices remember it’s all about ultimately choice the choices of what want to do next and we need to make the choices a good one I love it Richard I mean I can’t recommend the other side of midnight more and more highly and if you’re on the chat server in the community that we have you know I post a link to the show whenever it’s

live but it’s live on Saturdays and Sundays and I have an alarm set midnight Eastern and today such an auspicious day Richard to have you on the show it tonight is the vernal equinox and so happy vernal equinox hey Frank it is Springs bring has sprung by the way on Sunday night this coming weekend I’ve having Sean stoned on as my guest oh nice and Sean stone member folks is Oliver Stone son and I obviously have been be asking Sean about his great

director fathers agendas information sources advanced warning that cetera et cetera so you might want to tune in Sunday night the other side of it very good give the website one more time Richard please the other side that midnight cop guys you heard it here the other side of midnight dot my guest Richard C Hoagland I mean what an incredible show ladies and gentlemen really hope you got a chance to hear the whole thing

I mean it’s a it’s a really interesting time or our society our civilization so conversations like this I think our soul also cannot recommend the other side of midnight more highly I mean what Richard is doing over there is truly amazing he really does bet his guests and it’s it stands as my favorite show my favorite show not being paid to say this [Music] thank you guys so much for being here I know we are in some dark times right now

people are scared people are afraid we’re gonna get through it thank you guys so much for listening you’re hearing my voice right now you are the resistance good night [Music]

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