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our psychedelics in the in the regard to

you know healing trauma ayahuasca is

this something that you have any

interested in whatsoever I did it this

morning shut up no you did you did I you

Oscar this morning yes I’ve got some

five Meo DMT right now and he starts his

panel I’m walking out the door to come

up and meet you just so you know yeah

and George says and by the way I want to

introduce everybody to somebody that

sits in for me that that does the

weekends that he’s been with us for

years and I just want to bring to the

stage somebody that you all know Jimmy

church and I stopped and I ran and I ran

up to the stage and he go say something

and and I said George I was leaving to

get coffee so at that time

coast-to-coast just started and then I

found out and this is crazy the studio

was across the street from my condo Wow

across the street in Sherman Oaks where

I broadcast now same studio and I can

look out the windows of coast-to-coast

and look at my bedroom window and I’m

like shut up who is this and Jason goes

no man that’s George I know his voice

and George hey Jason how’s it going I

said really Jimmy

fan I go live with coast to coast in an

hour but I’m listening to you I was like

what and so we have this thing and I

hang up and the the audience and Twitter

and everybody’s just like it’s blowing

right right right and I thought how

weird is that at one point I was like

I’m done with sports I just want to get

this UFO thing combined so I convinced

my producers or my team that we were

gonna change from sports to sports and

UFOs they were like but how’re we gonna

do that

when you first walk into the hotel here

there’s 15,000 people right it’s madness

every floor that you go to here you see

a line of a thousand people going in to

see somebody speak it’s everywhere you

turn right and when you walk in the door

this electricity just comes up your legs

and you feel this thing and that’s the

beauty of the conscious life Expo and

and there’s nothing else like it in the

United States maybe even the world it’s

it’s that kind of place and I just enjoy

the suggestion of what is real and what

is not and are we in some hologram

holographic world yeah we are we exactly

so therefore nothing is set you know

free will is a real thing ones and

zeroes can be manipulated and if that is

the case rewrite your own code ya know

figure things out and and you can do it

and if you feel trapped or if you feel

like you’ve got questions that aren’t

answered you can go and you can do these

things in one show

I can talk about heavy metal music one

of my passions

I can talk about funny comedies

comedians time travel UFOs and Egypt all

in one show why those are the things

that I’m passionate about

what’s up folks

Xavier Quezada here and you are

listening to the human experience

podcast today we have the great Jimmy

Church on our program we really hope you

enjoy this episode it was a really fun

episode to do we did it live at the

conscious life Expo Jimmy has been

hosting fade to black and coast-to-coast

am four years he is just a really

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it thank you so much you are listening

to the human experience my name is

Xavier katana I am sitting with the

legendary mr. Jimmy Church Jimmy how are

you sir how is everybody how are you I

am doing wonderful man we are at the

conscious life Expo how’s that been for

you let me ask you this it’s great for

me how’s it been for you it’s probably

not as good as for you how many how many

conscious life Expos have you been to

this is the first conscious life are you

turning this interview into what are you

doing to my interview exactly conscious

life Expo this is the fifth year that

I’ve hosted we’ve usually broadcast you

know fade to black from the main plaza

ballroom downstairs on Friday nights and

this year is the first year that we

didn’t do that you know bringing a

portable studio the manpower the

producers of thing 3 our live broadcast

15 guests you know craziness this year

what what the Expo wanted to do was have

me still do the keynote address on

Friday night but have that be an actual

panel so this is the first year I

haven’t had to stress out bringing down

a radio studio setting up in front of a

thousand people and doing a live radio

which is fun writes a lot of stress so

this year last night when he asked how

the expo is going we had 1200 people in

the ballroom standing-room-only all

awake all here to learn all wanting

knowledge sure you know angles are

checked at the door

right audience is there to learn and

when they go into that room and they

look around and the vibe of having 1200

people with an awakened mind the

connections that happen there the

neurons the electricity right yes

everybody is one yeah and then on the

stage they’ve got David Wilcock they’ve

got Corey Goode they’ve got Linda

Moulton Howe William Henry and Wow

so the vibe that was in there last night

for the opening night it sets off the

tone for the rest of the conference for

everybody so they walk out of there you

know with some knowledge and they’ve

hopefully learned something maybe made

friends you know relationships and

things that that carries on through the

rest of the conference all the way to

next year absolutely because they want

to come back and cop that same vas sure

sure for me has it been great it’s been

amazing you know and so this morning I

was just down with George and his panel

George doing George Noory

and George and I we were backstage

David Wilcock missing right now this is

what’s great for the audience this is

you know it was awesome so George and I

our backstage we’ve got eight people

there we’re supposed to have nine we’re

missing Wilcox and George being the

professional that he is him and I are

just sitting to the back everybody’s in

front of it and we’re just talking and I

had said to him I said George this is my

fourth year going on fifth year doing

coast to coast right and over all of

these years I’ve never had the

opportunity to say thank you so that’s

what I did backstage right okay that was

a moment between George and I right

audience doesn’t see that and they

deserve that moment but they didn’t see

it so anyway this is part of conscious

life so George gets up on time done I’m

not part of his thing I’m just there

you know to be with my friend and he

starts his panel I’m walking out the

door to come up and meet you sure so you

know yeah and George says and and by the

way I want to introduce everybody to

somebody that sits in for me that that

does the weekends that he’s been with us

for years

and I just want to bring to the stage

somebody that you all know Jimmy Church

and I stopped and I ran and I ran up to

the stage and he go say something and

and I said George I was leaving to get

coffee so anyway I said to the audience

that I just want to share something that

that just happened backstage I don’t get

a chance to do this but I’ve been on

coast you know now all of this time and

George and I work and we work together

but Days turn into weeks turned into

years and I never had the opportunity to

say thank you and I just did that

backstage and I want all of you to know

that that’s what’s going on back there

and and I want to do it now up here

George thank you because and the

audience now gets that vibe right they

they understand that this is a family

this is not the celebrity or

coast-to-coast or things into something

that it is not we have a genuine

relationship with the audience

am I making sense and they need to feel

that so they walk out of there with a

personal thing that they can now take

that with them forever and understand

that so it’s the conference going great

it’s going great for everybody and and

that’s what I enjoy most I really do it

when when you first walk into the hotel

here there’s 15,000 people right it’s

madness every floor that you go to here

you see a line of a thousand people

going in to see somebody speak it’s

everywhere you turn right and when you

walk in the door this electricity just

comes up your legs and you feel this

thing and that’s the beauty of the

conscious life Expo and and there’s

nothing else like it in the United

States maybe even the world it’s it’s

that kind of place and I just enjoy it

so is it going great

how’s it going for you Jimmy it’s going

well but I want to get into you know

I’ve listened to your show a few times I

I know that you’ve at least heard of me

but I don’t think you’ve listened to my

show yet it’s a little bit different I

mean we have different topics but I want

to know a little bit about what goes on

behind the scenes because for most

people I think what they see is is

polished version of this collaborative

effort between you and your staff and

you’re putting all this together and do

it every single night and you know your

fader knots and the people who who love

you I mean there’s there’s so many of

them there’s it’s an army of them right

so how long have you been doing this

fade to black 5 going on 6 years and

then you host coast-to-coast on the

weekends yep and and you mentioned the

History Channel yep I’ve three shows now

three series on history yeah I mean you

know writer it sounds crazy does you’re

doing so much right for you what has

been a hurdle for you what has been

something that you struggled have

struggled with if anything well okay the

growth of the show I don’t have to

struggle with because it grows on its

own that’s organic The Fader knots thank

you for mentioning that because you’re

away can you pay attention the fader

knots named themselves okay we didn’t do

that the things that have happened on

the internet and everything we’ve never

advertised we’ve never done any

marketing so I’ve never stressed with

that everything is word-of-mouth that’s

it The Fader knots speak about the show

and the word on the street and the yeah

is it that is it the biggest show out

there it is it wasn’t at one time it’s

that it has grown organically so I don’t

stress over that that’s a beautiful

thing

my stress comes from the proper research

so hmm I have spent my entire life

reading watching searching that that’s

my thing I I do nothing but research now

with my schedule with doing shows every

single day of the week whether it’s TV

or radio how is that possible

have to do things like sleep yeah right

okay I do have a family and a life and

and everything else so how do you make

time for all of that it’s tough and then

I need to satisfy the research if I have

five guests in a week or six so I’m

working six days at six guests that’s

six different topics that’s six

different books to read from these or

six different documentaries to watch and

six different topics to go in-depth with

because I this is where you need to

learn right here for everybody that’s

listening to me mm-hm I do not have

questions there are no questions whether

it’s on coasts whether it’s TV fade to

black

there are no questions I have nothing

there in front of me because I know my

guests I know what’s going on

I’ve already researched the topic

probably four decades before and then

we’re specifically at a guess and by the

time I get to that guest I have fully

done my work the audience knows that and

that’s why the audience has grown they

know that I’m never phoning it in I’m

never reading down a list of 20

questions that is supplied from the

guests the questions are organic and

they feed off of the conversation as it

goes through and it’s like the

audience’s engaging in that conversation

with me sitting right there because they

can when you and I are sitting here

talking the conversations gonna go where

it’s gonna go I drink out a piece of

paper put it here and have a

conversation with three questions off of

that that’s not a conversation right

yeah the audience knows that and that’s

where the the fanatical thing comes from

that you’re talking about right they

know so my hope and my goal from always

from the beginning was and if there is

stress involved in doing what I do is

that you need to be yourself

I the audience knows they’ve been

listening to me now too you know a

thousand interviews 2,000 or more they

know my personality so they know who I

am I’m not faking anything you’re

associating there is nothing there none

of that is the

I am in one show I can talk about heavy

metal music one of my passions

I can talk about funny comedies

comedians time travel UFOs and Egypt all

in one show why those are the things

that I’m passionate about so when I

speak about these things I’m speaking

about the stuff that I love and then the

what results from that is my audience is

interested in the same exact things hi

man Wow

I like Pantera and I like UFOs this guy

is like me right do you understand what

I’m saying yeah and so once you let

loose of that freedom and and let that

hang out there now I’m able to not worry

about 20 questions I know my guests I

know the topics this is what I’m

passionate about

we got three hours of live radio in

front of us let’s rock and roll and have

a conversation if there’s a secret

that’s it no I mean I’m not looking for

the secret but you know I think but I’m

not suggesting that okay what I’m saying

is when when you try to analyze as I

have how did we get here you know and

with anybody that is passionate about

what they do

and they find their bliss and they’re

able to do amazing paintings or play

amazing guitar or act in films or

whatever in it or write code and and

video you know whatever it is they found

their bliss and you will say to them

well how’d you do it well man the secret

is I’m happy I’m just doing you know

what I want to do and so the stress

comes from being passionate about

something yeah I respect that about you

and I think you know as long as I have

known about you know the fader knots and

fade to black I have respected the show

and you for what you do is simply that

and if you ask me the same question I

there’s no way I could do six nights a

week of a guest I mean there are other

aspects of things that that were running

and we’re pushing forward you know I

want to know before you started doing

coast to coast did you always feel

you had a sort of talent for radio I

mean you have a very radio voice and at

what point did you move into doing Costa

Kosovo on the weekends well where do you

live I live in San Diego California live

in San Diego so and down in San Diego

extra sports 690 big radio station and

back in the early 90s I would when I

traveled to San Diego once a week twice

a week I would listen to extra sports

and it was a great radio station and

back then in the early 90s when I was

doing this I would listen and I knew I

was gonna do that

now I was 25 years ago so

that time coast-to-coast just started

and then I found out and this is crazy

the studio was across the street from my

condo Wow

across the street in Sherman Oaks where

I broadcast now same studio and I can

look out the windows of coast-to-coast

and look at my bedroom window now how

trippy is that that’s really trippy

right right sure so and my phone number

in my condo was one digit off from the

coast to coast number and I would listen

to art Bell okay call in a18 501 3 I

need to call in just to go dude look at

my phone number it’s one digit off I’m

across the street and I thought well

that’s kind of creepy so maybe we’re not

gonna do that but I would listen to

coast and knew that I wanted to manifest

my own reality and that’s always the way

things happen okay that that’s it you

want to change your reality think about

what you want to do think about it think

about it every single day practice

rehearse in your mind maybe it’s

painting maybe it’s car mechanic

whatever it is but if you don’t like

what you’re doing now and you need to do

that you manifest your own reality sure

now I’ve told the story many times about

about this very subject about how this

happened so look I

this voice I’ve had since I was 2 so

that I didn’t have to worry about that I

knew that I had that this irritating

thing that bother people it’s loud and

and things so I knew I had that

I needed to get the professional side of

it set up so I went back to school went

to school for broadcast went to school

for journalism it got through that got

into sports casting and and did that and

then at one point I was like I’m done

with sports I just want to get this UFO

thing combined so I convinced my

producers or my team that we were gonna

change from sports to sports in UFOs

they were like but how are we gonna do

that and so we changed the name of the

show the sports show was called the

revolution and there was a lot of fun

and we changed the name we did all the

production and the show was called Jimmy

Church against the world and it was my

way of getting what I was passionate

about conspiracy enlightenment awakened

as consciousness sure you’re both lost

history Egypt how do I get all of this

and keep the team interested okay so

we’re still doing sports but we’re gonna

do a little bit of the Great Pyramid of

Giza what how we gonna do that so I

convinced them somehow that I had a plan

so we come in we change the show we get

everything ready we cut all the spots we

do all the voice-over stuff I bring in

the team we do we do this for a couple

of weeks so we’re all geared we’re now

gonna launch Jimmy Terps against the

world and at that point our Bell quit he

quit

yeah the opportunity came up for me to

go to his Network on Dark Matter radio

and they literally said to me this is

like on a Sunday night you’re like okay

can you be ready to go live on Thursday

I said sure yeah we can do that and my

wife comes in and and she says that’s

that’s fine but we’re not gonna call a

Jimmy Church against the world I said

what’d he mean she goes that that pretty

much sucks and I said really

we just did all this production and

we’re ready to go she goes no we’re

gonna call it fade to black

what and that was Sunday night bringing

all the voiceover guys all the

production all the art is we come up

with new logos get everything done

baboom and then we went on the air this

is five six years ago with fade to black

and and that’s how it all happened it

was just manifesting your own reality

and then so coast to coast so this is

what happened George Noory I didn’t know

about this is listening to fade to black

and he’s listening to fade to black for

his own reasons but I’m on Arpels

network that’s certainly you know he’s

Georgia’s interested in what’s going on

out there and the other radio hosts I’m

sure and he starts listening to fade to

black and one night I’m in the studio

are doing the broadcast and I have Jason

Martel on from ancient alien okay Jason

and I are friends and and we’re doing

our thing and and earlier that evening

Jason and I decided not to take phone

calls that we were just gonna have this

fun organic bro conversation right okay

and about an hour in to the Bach house

about eight o’clock this eight one eight

number that I was just talking about

is coming in and I’m hanging up on it

keeps calling back hang up hang up and

after about 10 of these I go chasin got

somebody calling in we agreed not to

have calls but I don’t know what’s going

on you want to take this calling goes

yeah I’m just punching by your life I’m

fade to black who’s calling Jimmy this

is George Noory and I’m like shut up who

is this

and Jason goes no man that’s George I

know his voice and George hey Jason

how’s it going I said really Jimmy I’m a

fan I go live with coast to coast in an

hour but I’m listening to you I was like

what and so we have this thing and I

hang out and the the audience and

Twitter and everybody’s just like just

blowing it right right right

and I thought how weird is that and a

couple of weeks later we were had

contact in the desert George is there

and I’m there and we’re doing our thing

and and he came up and and offered me

the gig and said would you like to come

over and fill him for me on coast and I

said yeah I guess we could talk about it

ha ha ha ha check my schedule man I

might be busy but and that’s how it

happened and there’s no rhyme or reason

for it

you know again it comes to like

manifesting your own reality and

thinking about things the honor of the

this the the privilege the honor is

there’s only one coast-to-coast there’s

only one George Noory there’s only four

Friday’s every month there’s only four

Saturdays that’s it that’s it and who

fills in for George on Friday nights I’m

planet Earth him that’s one guy right

how what an honor right what an honor

and so I will never let go of that it is

really the truth it’s a privilege it’s

cool and that and fade to black which

airs before coast to coast all done by

design you know I didn’t want to overlap

the coast audience and I don’t want sure

and kejoro’s yeah so all of this was

planned and thought through and it ended

and it works and it happened and I’m

still there and we’re on the air and and

life is good and so that that’s it it’s

about when it comes to consciousness

when it comes to the suggestion of what

is real and what is not and are we in

some hologram holographic world yeah we

are yeah exactly

so therefore nothing is set you know

free will is a real thing ones and

zeroes can be manipulated and if that is

the case rewrite your own code

ya know figure things out and and you

can do it and if you feel trapped or if

you feel like you’ve got questions that

aren’t answered you can go and you can

do these things you can you know it

takes a little work you got a sweat hmm

you got it work yeah you know gotta be

present you have to work be willing to

work hard put your foot on the gas but

you have to and and that’s it that’s it

and so that’s how it all happened and

I’m walking around this conference and

I’m sure you’ve seen the same thing you

know there’s probably a thousand fade to

black shirts right at this conference

you’re walking around you know you’re

looking at 15,000 people and you walk

around in like I guys got my picture on

it and then just look for a second right

and you look around and you think how

did we get here and isn’t it wonderful

and that they are so happy and that they

are here and this this family in this

thing and it’s just what a crazy ride is

very it’s it’s so much fun and and

that’s that’s it that’s my life

I love the story I love the logistics I

love that you are so in car I don’t

think that you could pull off what

you’re doing without being utterly

passionate and devoted and completely

committed because I mean this is

challenging I mean just a weekly show

for me and my staff is challenging so

doing it every night live this is just a

different ball game you’re playing you

know minor leagues versus major leagues

so you know I wanted to ask you

sometimes I listen to your show and you

know it’s all about these different

topics but I’ve never really heard you

that story that you talked about you

know how you got the gig at

coast-to-coast that that story happened

live on the air yeah there you know what

I mean so I never really had to tell it

the audience got to hear it you know

they heard George call in about a month

after when George called in and he made

me that offer which was out in the

desert like two weeks after that he

called in and I was like man really you

know okay and I was thinking to myself

what is the audience thinking right now

that is really going on and and George

calls and he says Jimmy I don’t know if

you told anybody which I hadn’t I didn’t

go on the air and go George off for me

this coast-to-coast I didn’t at that

point it was my agent that got involved

and I’m just you know if this happens it

happens if it doesn’t it doesn’t but you

don’t talk about it publicly

sure does George do calls in so church

what’s your answer I offered you the

host gig haven’t heard back man I’m like

if you want to do this live on the air

yeah I do know this played out on the

air yeah how cool is that that’s yeah

yeah yeah yeah okay so okay so yeah I’d

let you do that let you take over there

for a second but Jimmy I want to know we

all have you know doing this radio thing

we all have those moments where there’s

a guest that just something’s not vibing

right you know and you don’t have to

drop names I wouldn’t ask you to drop

names I just want you to give a story of

an experience that you had where it just

wasn’t working out and you’re trying

everything you can

to get this guest back on track and for

some reason the cock of the

conversations falling flat The Fader

knots are going nuts they’re like Jimmy

what’s going on why is this interview

just going flat and and you’re thinking

the same thing and it’s never happened

I had a feeling you might say that it’s

never happened the only probably there’s

one fade to black

that went a little bit sideways but it

turned out to be okay once and so some

really even worth mentioning

okay and then there was one time on

coast one guess I’m not gonna mention

his name he hasn’t come back on coast to

coast sense or fade to black that tried

to take things into a very loud

political Obama bashing oh yeah I think

it was Obama I can’t even remember it

might have been Hillary might have been

during this year elections right or the

campaign a couple of years ago right so

and that was very regrettable I almost

hung up on the guests and said always

had phone problems you know we’ll get

back to him let’s open up the phone

lines that happened once but no so the

answer is no Wow so you have to first

off I know my guess you know we’re

booking the guests are passionate they

want to be on we we are lucky that we

have enough credibility out there that

we can offer only we have the

opportunity offer the best and the

brightest that’s it so usually what we

bring forward is something that is

pretty dynamic whatever it is but now

this is the catch and it’s pretty

amazing we have had a lot of first-time

guests on the show I’ve had a lot of

guests on the show it was their first

radio appearance see your segwaying for

me now right and that was like that was

that was my next question for you is is

you know research okay yeah the research

a story searching guest oh okay yeah

that’s research and guest fought trying

to find the next gem the next thing why

I I got to go back to my own radio

experience so when I would listen to it

doesn’t doesn’t matter if I was

listening to coast to coast or if I

listened to sports radio

or political or whatever I was listening

I want to listen to somebody I haven’t

heard from before you know I’ll still

listen if it’s Will Smith for the 50th

time but to have somebody that I’ve

never heard before that really catches

my attention so that’s what I wanted to

do with the audience I want to find

somebody that the audience has never

heard from before

why well they get to share in my

experience of that conversation because

this is the first conversation I’ve had

with this guest this is the first time

this guest is presenting this

information everything is fresh and new

and they get to have that experience

sure that’s a tough road sure it’s a

tough road to find and and and

constantly look and look and look and

look and look I can only have Linda

Moulton Howe on this show so much I

would love to have her five days a week

but you can’t do that you know or or

Richard Dolan or Steven Greer or David

Wilcock or Corey Goode or William Henry

on and on and on and I thought of John

Anthony West who just passed away a few

days ago I had these people on Robert

Schoch I would love to have him on all

the time I can’t

and also as much as that is really cool

and the audience enjoys that and they do

they do

I think they much they get much more

enjoyment from somebody that they’ve

never heard from before some fresh idea

some fresh take on the near-death

experience on consciousness on parallel

worlds on time travel on on UFOs on

Egypt

you know so it’s okay I’m gonna spin

this around just a little bit just cuz I

love hearing this I love hearing just

the back story and you know the way your

mind is thinking out and boys show later

though for this no you’re not what’s

gonna happen is I want to ask you about

juror this lady named Nancy Lieder she’s

still around yeah idea yeah

okay so Zeta Zeta Zeta talk Z to talk

yes need to talk do you remember she was

a year was there’s like 2006 2004

something like that was a while it’s

been a while and she fade

away it’s no pun intended but I was

wondering for a person like her who is

she’s pitching the this end of the world

scenario saying you know this Planet X

is coming and then nothing happens do

you filter out who you bring on in

regards to that or you do you allow your

audience to do that themselves no I

don’t do I don’t do anything like that

on the show it’s a very very dangerous

zone to get into and the reason why I

used to listen to her stuff and others

like her but if you are going to predict

something like that it better happen

had better happens yeah and it doesn’t

martial masters and so forth if it does

not happen the reputation is gone you’re

messing with people’s emotions

yeah and also there’s a certain amount

of fear-mongering going yeah and I I

don’t want to play into that and also as

a host and my audience I do my research

and if you go and you look at these

timelines with the Sumerian texts and

certainly the way that Sitchin presented

the information

nibiru on its best hope is still 1500

years out sure okay

it’s not next week it’s not next month

it’s not 2012 yeah you know it’s not

it’s not it’s not any of these dates

it’s 1500 years away if we go back and

look this is why I I cannot bring out

somebody to to talk about Planet X I

just won’t do it unless they tell me

it’s 2000 years away then we have a

conversation come on let’s talk about it

because if we look at all of the

historical timelines where significant

things have happened at these 3,600 year

cycles you can find them you can look at

the Year Zero with the Star of Bethlehem

was that Nibiru right his 2000 years ago

hmm so that puts right there that puts

Nibiru 1616 hundred years out and then

you can back up and look at certain

celestial events sure look at the Roman

calendar the Greek calendar Egyptian

calendar Chinese and look at these

celestial events and significant things

and you can find these 3,600 year loops

and it looks kind of interesting right

but they stopped at a certain point

which puts Nibiru 1,600 1,500 years out

no matter what so I my research says

that somebody that wants to present

Nibiru as entering our solar system

right now is trying to sell books and

I’m not into that there are too many

this is the other problem with it

every single asteroid just about every

single media or every single near-earth

orbit everything that has been found

pretty small smaller than a Nibiru it’s

been found by an amateur astronomer in

his backyard with his own telescope

brain they would have seen Nibiru for

sure a long time ago hundred percent and

it would be over with yeah so my own

research says I’m not going there right

that’s it I won’t do it on the show I

will not I will not I’m not gonna be a

false prophet I’m not gonna be part of

it I’m not I’m not I’m not and you know

it comes it comes down to this this

world that we’re in credibility and

integrity should be paramount and so for

me that’s that’s it and that’s that’s

where I’ve I love that man I love

authenticity I love that you are just so

committed and I think it’s a

responsibility you feel a connection to

your audience and people look up to you

that they respect your judgment and

you’re bringing this person on so I can

see why the research of that you know

the guests that you bring on would be so

important and why doing that five six

days a week is just absolute madness

right is there a topic that I mean I

know there’s a bunch of topics that you

really like is there a favorite of yours

in this snichlt genre that you are drawn

to more well aside from UFOs and the

alien question my passion is is Egypt

and lost history

which is one of the same thing so that’s

going back to of course go back Lee Tepe

which you know as is sure that I’m very

very passionate about and I think

there’s a connection there but yes Egypt

and when you go back before the Pharaohs

and you go beef or that you go before

men a and you go before Narmer then you

go to the gods of Egypt and the demigods

and what was going on there that is oh

it’s just the most fascinating thing out

there absolutely you know down you know

then there’s time travel and then

there’s you know I certainly love

quantum mechanics and quantum theory in

the physics of bad and and parallel

worlds and multi world Theory multiverse

yeah very very passionate yeah yeah and

secretly sort of I just love hearing

about that and you’ve probably had

Richard Hoagland on your show a couple

times once once I don’t know how you

feel about him I I don’t know why but I

listened to his show every week and I

just hear he has his own little show on

BlogTalkRadio now and I feel bad for the

guy cuz he has probably every technical

issue ever ever conceived of that you

could ever ever think of he has that

issue and I’ve tried to help him I’ve

tried to send him a couple Facebook

messages and stuff like that and it’s it

says that he read them and I’m just like

this is what you need to do to fix your

thing man and and it just doesn’t get

fixed so but for some reason his ability

to talk about you know these things that

we’re seeing in our solar system this

architecture of these pre civilization

10,000 20,000 years who knows how old

these civilizations are all scattered

through the solar system it fascinates

me and I mean we’ve had Graham Hancock

on have you had Graham they’ve you

talked to Grandma a many many times he’s

he’s one of my favorite get favorite

people to listen to because he connects

so many of you know the the different

veins of subjects that I’m that I’m

really into our psychedelics in the in

the regard to you know healing

drama ayahuasca is this something that

you have any interested in whatsoever I

did it this morning shut up no you did

you did I you Oscar this morning yes

I’ve got some five Meo DMT right now so

I’m ladies and gentlemen I’m looking at

I’m looking at the center of Jimi’s

forehead and I don’t think he’s lying I

really don’t I just I don’t I don’t know

I don’t know but Jimmy really I mean

really be honest here man cuz cuz you

know I’ll tell you something really

funny let me let me let me let me do

this I’m gonna go here and then and it

will end on this story I’m gonna tell a

little story so about six months ago a

matter of private party on the top of a

mountain in Malibu so use your

imagination

okay

pretty pretty pretty amazing and the

people there and who the neighbors are

hey we’re talking about top shelf of

society and so we’re up there and this

person comes up I’m not gonna say

male-female who what but says I’m a

shaman and

we are going to have a private gathering

invitation only

in two weeks at our compound we would

like to invite you

okay

we’ll be there so we we drive back two

weeks later to the same neighborhood

same general area and we enter the

compound we’re driving up and around a

two mile driveway and we wind around to

this beautiful home a couple of Ferraris

couple of Aston Martins couple of

Bentley’s a couple of this couple of

that couple of that and you know I pull

in and my seventy-two Datsun b210 pickup

truck I’m kidding

but anyway so we pull in and it is all

that

and what is going on here it’s a room

not one but it’s a room full of shamans

a room

very famous director

and some other you know and I’m looking

around I’m like wow and things were

going on there were I you know without

going into details mm-hmm there were

certain ancient medicines that were

being talked about and distributed so

I’m watching this and somebody comes up

to me and does this

okay this is from you know this is made

by old women in you know mountains in

Tibet and a monastery and goes boom a

drop my head on my penny old way and and

this thing so so it this drop and in

this smell this weird thing and I could

feel the heat in the oil I could feel it

like going down my scalp okay all right

so that and I didn’t even ask any

questions

I just you know let’s let this happen

okay all right yeah so about a half hour

later

we’re standing in the metal here we go

we’re standing in his circle in the

dining room and this director is talking

about this project and in the gathering

of everybody and and the blessing of the

you know the kombucha and whatever and

I’m standing there and suddenly his

mouth which is I can he I can see him

talking

but I just lose them and I’m looking

around the room and I’m like why isn’t

anybody looking at these amazing ass

colors

this place is great and I’m looking

around and everybody and I’m like wow

what was he saying and then I thought to

myself that drop dead drop that went on

my head not on my tongue not in my vein

I didn’t smoke it I didn’t snort it I

didn’t I Drive it went right what is

going on hmm

and it allowed me at that moment to

realize that everybody here got the drop

I know that they did and this is what it

was it was fantastic it was

fantastically Ville and and we drove

away that night my wife and I were

driving out she got the drop two and and

we just thought what that was nuts the

group the people you know I can’t really

if I told you some of these

personalities that were there it’s not

that I’m not talking about movie stars

that was going out too but but different

segments of society sure that are

actually open to that solutely you know

there are politicians right now in

Washington DC that know what five him

out of Syria because I saw it and I was

flipping out and I was flipping it was a

great experience

so with that man um wonderful just just

thank you no no no thank you I really

appreciate the background and that

hilarious way to end this conversation

and just you know have a lot of respect

for you as a broadcaster what you do how

hard you work it’s huge and I hope to

you know be there one day myself and and

maybe take your job on coast to coast

maybe you’ll go you know Monday through

Friday all on your show callin your show

will just reverse this whole story Jimmy

man thank you thank you so much where

can where can people get to you know

it’s such such it’s such an ego thing to

say yeah it’s Jimmy Church radio.com

just go there everything is there so

YouTube Twitter live show networks

syndication email contact future past

you know that that’s it it’s all right

there we’ve everything is free you know

so you can just go and the show plays

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it’s all there

love it love it meant

Church thank you so much for being here

sir this is the human experience we are

gonna get out of here thank you so much

for listening we will catch you next

week