Episode 111 – Jimmy Church on Radio Broadcasting, Hosting Coast to Coast AM and more

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Are psychedelics, in the regard to healing trauma, ayahuasca,

is this something that you have any interest in whatsoever?

I did it this morning.

Shut up.

No, you didn't.

You did ayahuasca this morning.

Yes.

EODMT right now. And he starts his panel. I'm walking out the door to come up and meet you.

Just so you know. And George says, and by the way, I want to introduce everybody to somebody

that sits in for me, that does the weekends, that he's been with us for years. And I just

want to bring to the stage somebody that you all know, Jimmy Church. And I stopped, right?

And I ran and I ran up to the stage and he goes, say something.

And I said, George, I was leaving to get coffee.

So at that time, Coast to Coast just started.

And then I found out, and this is crazy, the studio was across the street from my condo.

Wow.

across the street in sherman oaks where i broadcast now same studio and i can look out

the windows of coast to coast and look at my bedroom window and i'm like shut up who is this

and jason goes no man that's george i know his voice and george hey jason how's it going

I said, really, Jimmy, I'm a fan.

I go live with Coast to Coast in an hour, but I'm listening to you.

I was like, what?

And so we have this thing, and I hang up, and the audience and Twitter and everybody's just like.

Just blowing up.

Right, right, right.

And I thought, how weird is that?

At one point, I was like, I'm done with sports.

I just want to get this UFO thing combined.

mind so i convinced my producers and my team that we were going to change from sports to sports and

ufos and they were like what how are we going to do that when you first walk into the hotel here

there's 15 000 people right it's madness every floor that you go to here you see a line of a

thousand people going in to see somebody speak it's everywhere you turn right um and when you

walk in the door this electricity just comes up your legs and you feel this thing and that's the

beauty of the conscious life expo and and there's nothing else like it in the united states maybe

even the world it's it's that kind of place and i just enjoy it the suggestion of what is real and

what is not and are we in some hologram holographic world yeah we are we exactly so therefore nothing

is set you know free will is a real thing ones and zeros can be manipulated and if that is the case

rewrite your own code you know figure things out and and you can do it and if you feel trapped or

if you feel like you've got questions that aren't answered you can go and you can do these things

in one show i can talk about heavy metal music one of my passions i can talk about funny comedies

Time travel, UFOs, and Egypt, all in one show.

Why?

Those are the things that I'm passionate about.

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My name is Xavier Katana.

I am sitting with the legendary Mr. Jimmy Church.

Jimmy, how are you, sir?

How is everybody?

How are you?

I am doing wonderful, man.

We are at the Conscious Life Expo.

How's that been for you?

Well, let me ask you this.

It's great for me.

How's it been for you?

It's probably not as good as for you.

How many Conscious Life Expos have you been to?

This is the first Conscious Life.

Are you turning this interview into,

what are you doing to my interview?

Exactly.

This is the thing.

Conscious Life Expo,

this is the fifth year that I've hosted.

We've usually broadcast,

you know, fade to black

from the main Plaza Ballroom downstairs

on Friday nights.

And this year is the first year

that we didn't do that.

You know, bring in a portable studio,

the manpower, the producers,

the thing, three-hour live broadcast,

guest, you know, craziness. This year, what the Expo wanted to do was have me still do the

keynote address on Friday night, but have that be an actual panel. So this is the first year I

haven't had to stress out bringing down a radio studio, setting up in front of a thousand people

and doing a live radio, which is fun. It's a lot of stress. So this year, last night,

We had 1,200 people in the ballroom, standing room only, all awake, all here to learn, all wanting knowledge.

Egos are checked at the door.

Audience is there to learn.

And when they go into that room and they look around and the vibe of having 1,200 people with an awakened mind, the connections that happen there, the neurons, the electricity, right?

It's all, everybody is one.

And then on the stage, they've got David Wilcock.

They've got Corey Goode.

They've got Linda Moulton Howe, William Henry.

And wow.

Wow. So the vibe that was in there last night for the opening night, it sets off the tone for the rest of the conference for everybody.

So they walk out of there, you know, with some knowledge and they've hopefully learned something, maybe made friends, you know, relationships and things that that carries on through the rest of the conference all the way to next year.

Absolutely. Because they want to come back and cop that same vibe.

Sure. Sure. For me, has it been great? It's been amazing, you know.

And so this morning, I was just down with George and his panel.

George Norrie.

George Norrie.

And George and I, we were backstage, David Wilcox missing, right?

Now, this is what's great for the audience.

This is, you know, it was awesome.

So George and I are backstage.

We've got eight people there.

We're supposed to have nine.

We're missing Wilcox.

and George, being the professional that he is,

him and I are just sitting to the back.

Everybody's in front of it, and we're just talking.

And I had said to him, I said,

George, this is my fourth year going on,

fifth year doing Coast to Coast, right?

And over all of these years,

I've never had the opportunity to say thank you.

So that's what I did backstage, right?

Okay.

That was a moment between George and I.

The audience doesn't see that,

and they deserve that moment,

see it. So anyway, this is part of conscious life. So George gets up and says, I'm done. I'm not part

of his thing. I'm just there, you know, to, to be with my friend. And he starts his panel. I'm

walking out the door to come up and meet you. So, you know, and George says, and, and by the way,

I want to introduce everybody to somebody that sits in for me, that, that does the weekends

that he's been with us for years. And I just want to bring to the stage, somebody that you all know,

me church. And I stopped and I ran and I ran up to the stage and he goes, say something. And,

and I said, George, I was leaving to get coffee. So anyway, I said to the audience that I just

want to share something that, that just happened backstage. I don't get a chance to do this,

but I've been on coast, you know, now all of this time and George and I work and we work together,

into weeks turned into years and I never had the opportunity to say thank you and I just did that

backstage and I want all of you to know that that's what's going on back there and and I want

to do it now up here George thank you because and the audience now gets that vibe right they

they understand that this is a family this is not the celebrity or coast to coast or things

into something that it

is not. We have a genuine relationship with the audience. Am I making sense? And they need to feel that. So they walk out of there with a personal thing that they can now take that with them forever and understand that. So is the conference going great? It's going great for everybody. And that's what I enjoy most. I really do.

When you first walk into the hotel here, there's 15,000 people, right?

It's madness.

Every floor that you go to here, you see a line of 1,000 people going in to see somebody speak.

It's everywhere you turn, right?

And when you walk in the door, this electricity just comes up your legs, and you feel this thing, and that's the beauty of the Conscious Life Expo.

And there's nothing else like it in the United States, maybe even the world.

It's that kind of place, and I just enjoy it.

So is it going great? How's it going for you?

Jimmy, it's going well, but I want to get into, you know, I've listened to your show a few times.

I know that you've at least heard of me, but I don't think you've listened to my show yet.

It's a little bit different. I mean, we have different topics.

But I want to know a little bit about what goes on behind the scenes.

Because for most people, I think what they see is this polished version of this collaborative effort between you and your staff.

And do it every single night.

And your Fadernauts and the people who love you,

I mean, there's so many of them.

It's an army of them.

Right.

So how long have you been doing this?

Fade to black, five, going on six years.

And then you host Coast to Coast on the weekends.

Yep.

And you mentioned the History Channel.

Yep.

Three shows now, three series on history.

I know, right?

It sounds crazy, doesn't it?

You're doing so much for you.

been a hurdle for you what has been something that you struggle have struggled with if anything

well um okay the growth of the show i don't have to struggle with because it grows on its own that's

organic the fader knots thank you for mentioning that because you're awake and you pay attention

the fader knots named themselves okay we didn't do that the things that have happened on the

internet and everything. We've never advertised. We've never done any marketing. So I've never

stressed with that. Everything is word of mouth. That's it. The fader knots speak about the show

and the word on the streets. And yeah, is it the biggest show out there? It is. It wasn't at one

time. It's that it has grown organically. So I don't stress over that. That's a beautiful thing.

My stress comes from the proper research.

So I have spent my entire life reading, watching, searching.

That's my thing.

I do nothing but research.

Now, with my schedule, with doing shows every single day of the week, whether it's TV or radio, how is that possible?

I still have to do things like sleep.

Yeah, of course.

Okay?

and a life and everything else.

So how do you make time for all of that?

It's tough.

And then I need to satisfy the research.

If I have five guests in a week or six,

so I'm working six days at six guests,

that's six different topics.

That's six different books to read from these

or six different documentaries to watch

and six different topics to go in depth with

because I, and this is where you need to learn,

right here. For everybody that's listening to me, I do not have questions. There are no questions.

Whether it's on coast, whether it's TV, fade to black, there are no questions. I have nothing

there in front of me because I know my guests. I know what's going on. I've already researched

the topic probably for decades before, and then we're specifically at a guest. And by the time

I get to that guest, I have fully done my work. The audience knows that. And that's why the

audience has grown. They know that I'm never phoning it in. I'm never reading down a list

of 20 questions that is supplied from the guests. The questions are organic and they feed off of

the conversation as it goes through. And it's like the audience is engaging in that conversation

with me sitting right there because they can, when you and I are sitting here talking,

the conversation is going to go where it's going to go. I don't pick out a piece of paper

and sit here and have a conversation with you and read questions off of that. That's not a

conversation, right? Okay. The audience knows that. And that's where the fanatical thing comes

from that you're talking about. They know. So my hope and my goal from always from the beginning

was, and if there is stress involved in doing what I do,

is that you need to be yourself.

I, the audience knows,

they've been listening to me now do,

you know, a thousand interviews,

two thousand interviews.

Of course.

They know my personality.

So they know who I am.

I'm not faking anything.

You don't bullshit.

There is nothing, none of that is there.

I am in one show,

I can talk about heavy metal music,

one of my passions.

I can talk about funny comedies, comedians, time travel, UFOs, and Egypt.

All in one show.

Why?

Those are the things that I'm passionate about.

So when I speak about these things, I'm speaking about the stuff that I love.

And then what results from that is my audience is interested in the same exact things.

Like, man, wow.

I like Pantera.

And I like UFOs.

This guy is like me, right?

Do you understand what I'm saying?

And so once you let loose of that freedom and let that hang out there, now I'm able to not worry about 20 questions.

I know my guest.

I know the topics.

This is what I'm passionate about.

We got three hours of live radio in front of us.

Let's rock and roll and have a conversation.

If there's a secret, that's it.

No, I mean, I'm not looking for the secret.

But I'm not suggesting that.

But what I'm saying is when you try to analyze, as I have, how did we get here?

And with anybody that is passionate about what they do and they find their bliss and they're able to do amazing paintings or play amazing guitar or act in films or whatever it is, or write code and video, whatever it is, they found their bliss.

and you will say to them, well, how'd you do it?

Well, man, the secret is I'm happy.

I'm just doing what I want to do.

And so the stress comes from being passionate about something.

Yeah, I respect that about you.

And I think as long as I've known about the Fade or Nots and Fade to Black,

I have respected the show and you for what you do.

It's simply that.

And if you ask me the same question, there's no way I could do six nights a week of guests.

I mean, there are other aspects of things that we're running and we're pushing forward.

You know, I want to know, before you started doing Coast to Coast, did you always feel you had a sort of talent for radio?

I mean, you have a very radio voice.

And at what point did you move into doing Coast to Coast on the weekends?

Well, where do you live?

I live in San Diego, California.

You live in San Diego.

So, and down in San Diego, Extra Sports 690, big radio station.

And back in the early 90s, I would, when I traveled to San Diego once a week, twice a week, I would listen to Extra Sports.

And it was a great radio station.

And back then, in the early 90s, when I was doing this, I would listen and I knew I was going to do that.

25 years ago.

So, at that time, Coast to Coast just started.

And then I found out, and this is crazy,

the studio was across the street from my condo.

Wow.

Across the street in Sherman Oaks,

where I broadcast now, same studio,

and I can look out the windows of Coast to Coast

and look at my bedroom window.

Now, how trippy is that?

That's an interesting synchronicity.

That's a pretty trippy, right?

Yeah, sure.

And my phone number in my condo was one digit off from the Coast to Coast number.

And I would listen to Art Bell.

Okay, call in 818-501-399.

I was like, well, I need to call in just to go, dude, look at my phone number.

It's one digit off.

I'm across the street.

And I thought, well, that's kind of creepy.

So maybe we're not going to do that.

But I would listen to Coast and knew that I wanted to manifest my own reality.

And that's always the way things happen.

Okay?

That's it.

You want to change your reality?

Think about what you want to do.

Think about it.

Think about it every single day.

Practice.

Rehearse in your mind.

Maybe it's painting.

Maybe it's car mechanic.

Whatever it is.

But if you don't like what you're doing now, and you need to do that, you manifest your own reality.

Now, I've told this story many times about this very subject, about how this happened.

So, look, this voice I've had since

I was two, so I didn't have to worry about that.

I knew that I had this irritating thing that bothered people.

It's loud and things.

So I knew I had that.

But I needed to get the professional side of it set up.

So I went back to school.

Went to school for broadcast.

Went to school for journalism.

I got through that.

Got into sportscasting and did that.

And then at one point I was like, I'm done with sports.

just want to get this ufo thing combined so i convinced my producers and my team that we were

going to change from sports to sports and ufos and they were like what how are we going to do that

and so we changed the name of the show the sports show was called the revolution

and and that was a lot of fun and we changed the name we did all the production uh and the show

was called Jimmy Church Against the World.

And it was my way of getting what I was passionate about,

conspiracy, enlightenment, awakeness, consciousness,

UFOs, lost history, Egypt.

How do I get all of this and keep the team interested?

Okay, so we're still doing sports,

but we're going to do a little bit of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

What?

How are we going to do that?

So I convinced them somehow that I had a plan.

we change the show we get everything ready we cut all the spots we do all the voiceover stuff i bring

in the team we do we do this for a couple of weeks and we're all geared we're now gonna launch

jimmy church against the world and at that point art bell quit when he quit yeah the opportunity

came up for me to go to his network on dark matter radio and they literally said to me this was like

on a Sunday night.

They were like, okay,

can you be ready to go live on Thursday?

I said, sure.

Yeah, we can do that.

And my wife comes in

and she says, that's fine,

but we're not going to call it

Jimmy Church Against the World.

I said, what do you mean?

She goes, that pretty much sucks.

And I said, really?

We just did all this production

and we're ready to go.

She goes, no, we're going to call it

black what and that was sunday night bringing all the voiceover guys all the production all the

artists we come up with new logos get everything done boom boom and then we went on the air uh this

is five six years ago with fade to black and and that's how it all happened it was just manifesting

your own reality and then uh so coast to coast so this is what happened george nori i did know

is listening to Fade to Black.

And he's listening to Fade to Black for his own reasons.

But I'm on Art Bell's network.

That's certainly, you know, he's,

George is interested in what's going on out there

and the other radio host, I'm sure.

And he starts listening to Fade to Black.

And one night, I'm in the studio,

doing the broadcast,

and I have Jason Martell on from Ancient Aliens.

Okay.

Jason and I are friends,

and we're doing our thing.

Earlier that evening, Jason and I decided not to take phone calls,

that we were just going to have this fun, organic bro conversation.

Okay.

And about an hour in to the broadcast, about 8 o'clock,

this 818 number that I was just talking about is coming in,

and I'm hanging up on it, keeps calling back, hang up, hang up.

And after about 10 of these, I go, Jason, I've got somebody calling in.

not to have calls, but I don't know what's going on. You want to take this call? He goes, yeah.

I just punched it. Oh, you're live on Faded Block. Who's calling? Jimmy, this is George Norrie.

And I'm like, shut up. Who is this? And Jason goes, no, man, that's George. I know his voice.

And George, hey, Jason, how's it going? I said, really, Jimmy, I'm a fan. I go live with Coast

to Coast in an hour, but I'm listening to you. I was like, what? And so we have this thing and I

and Twitter and everybody's just like just blowing up right right right and I thought how weird is

that and uh a couple of uh weeks later we were at contact in the desert George is there and I'm

there and and we're doing our thing and and he came up and and offered me the gig and said uh

would you like to come over and fill in for me on coast and I said yeah I guess we could talk about

Let me check my schedule, man.

I might be busy.

And that's how it happened.

And there's no rhyme or reason for it.

Again, it comes to manifesting your own reality and thinking about things.

The honor of this, the privilege, the honor is there's only one Coast to Coast.

There's only one George Norrie.

There's only four Fridays every month.

four Saturdays. That's it. That's it. And who fills in for George on Friday nights on planet

earth? And that's one guy, right? How, what an honor, right? What an honor. And so I, I will

never let go of that. It is really the truth. It's a privilege. It's cool. And, uh, that and

fade to black which airs before coast to coast all done by design you know i didn't want to

overlap the coast audience and i didn't want to offend coast to coast yeah so uh all of this was

uh planned and thought through and it and it and it works and it happened and i'm still there and

we're on the air and and life is good and so that that's it it's about when it comes to consciousness

when it comes to the suggestion of what is real and what is not,

and are we in some hologram, holographic world?

Yeah, we are.

Exactly.

So, therefore, nothing is set.

You know, free will is a real thing.

Ones and zeros can be manipulated.

And if that is the case, rewrite your own code.

You know, figure things out.

And you can do it.

And if you feel trapped or if you feel like you've got questions that aren't answered, you can go and you can do these things.

You can.

You know, it takes a little work.

You got to sweat.

You got to work.

Yeah.

You know, you got to be present.

You have to be willing to work hard.

Put your foot on the gas pedal.

Yeah, you have to.

And that's it.

That's it.

And so that's how it all happened.

And I'm walking around this conference and I'm sure you've seen the same thing.

And, you know, there's probably a thousand fade to black shirts, right?

At this conference.

You're walking around, you know, you're looking at 15,000 people and you walk around and you're like, that guy's got my picture on his chest.

And then just look for a second, right?

And you look around and you think, how did we get here?

And isn't it wonderful?

And that they are so happy and that they are here.

and this family and this thing.

And it's just, what a crazy ride.

It's so much fun.

And that's it.

That's my life.

I love the story.

I love the logistics.

I love that you are so incredible.

I don't think that you could pull off what you're doing

without being utterly passionate and devoted

and completely committed.

Because, I mean, this is challenging.

I mean, just a weekly show for me and my staff is challenging.

So doing it every night live is just a different ballgame.

You're playing, you know, minor leagues versus major leagues.

So, you know, I wanted to ask you, sometimes I listen to your show and, you know, it's all about these different topics.

But I've never really heard you, that story that you talked about, you know, how you got the gig at Coast to Coast.

That story happened live on the air.

Yeah, there you go.

You know what I mean?

So I never really had to tell it.

The audience got to hear it.

They heard George call in about a month after when George called in, and he made me that offer, which was out in the desert.

Like two weeks after that, he called in, and I was like, man, really?

You know, okay.

And I was thinking to myself, what is the audience thinking right now that is really going on?

And George calls in, and he says, Jimmy, I don't know if you told anybody, which I hadn't.

I didn't go on the air and go, George offered me this coast-to-coast.

at that point it was my agent that got involved and i'm just you know if this happens it happens

if it doesn't it doesn't but you don't talk about it publicly so what does george do calls in so

church what's your answer i offered you the host gig haven't heard back man i'm like you want to

do this live on the air yeah i do you know and so this played out on the air yeah how cool is that

that's amazing yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so anyway so okay so yeah i i let you do that i let you take

But, Jimmy, I want to know, we all have, you know, doing this radio thing, we all have those moments where there's a guest that just something's not vibing right.

You know, and you don't have to drop names.

I wouldn't ask you to drop names.

I just want you to give a story of an experience that you had where it just wasn't working out.

And you're trying everything you can to get this guest back on track.

And for some reason, the conversation's falling flat.

The fadernauts are going nuts.

They're like,

Jimmy, what's going on? Why is this interview just going flat? And you're thinking the same thing.

It's never happened.

I had a feeling you might say that.

It's never happened. The only – probably there's one fade to black that went a little bit sideways, but it turned out to be okay once.

And so it's not really even worth mentioning.

Then there was one time on Coast, one guest, I'm not going to mention his name.

He has not been back on Coast to Coast since, or Fade to Black, that tried to take things

into a very loud, political, Obama-bashing, I think it was Obama.

I can't even remember.

It might have been Hillary.

It might have been during the elections or the campaign a couple of years ago.

Right.

And that was very regrettable.

I almost hung up on the guests and said, oh, he's had phone problems.

We'll get back to him.

Let's open up the phone lines.

That happened once, but no.

So the answer is no.

Wow.

So you have to, first off, I know my guests.

We're booking.

The guests are passionate.

They want to be on.

We are lucky that we have enough credibility out there that we can offer only, we have the opportunity to offer the best and the brightest.

That's it.

So usually what we bring forward is something that is pretty dynamic, whatever it is.

But, now this is the catch, and it's pretty amazing.

We have had a lot of first-time guests on the show.

guest on the show it was their first radio appearance see you're segueing for me now

right and that was that was that was my next question for you is is you know research okay

yeah the research aspect of it is researching guests oh okay yeah that's researching guests

trying to find the next gem the next thing why i i had to go back to my own radio experience

So when I would listen to, it doesn't matter if I was listening to Coast to Coast or if I was listening to sports radio or political or whatever I was listening.

I want to listen to somebody I haven't heard from before.

You know, I'll still listen if it's Will Smith for the 50th time.

But to have somebody that I've never heard before, that really catches my attention.

So that's what I want to do with the audience.

I want to find somebody that the audience has never heard from before.

Why?

they get to share in my experience of that conversation because this is the first conversation

I've had with this guest. This is the first time this guest is presenting this information.

Everything is fresh and new and they get to have that experience. That's a tough road. It's a tough

road to find and constantly look and look and look and look and look. I can only have Linda

Moulton Howell on this show so much. I would love to have her five days a week, but you can't do

Or Richard Dolan.

Or Stephen Greer.

Or David Wilcock.

Or Corey Goode.

Or William Henry.

On and on and on and on.

These people that...

John Anthony West, who just passed away a few days ago.

I had these people on.

Robert Shock.

I would love to have them on all the time.

I can't.

And also, as much as that is really cool, and the audience enjoys that, and they do.

They do.

I think they get much more enjoyment from somebody that they've never heard from before.

Some fresh idea, some fresh take on the near-death experience, on consciousness, on parallel worlds, on time travel, on UFOs, on Egypt.

So, okay, I'm going to spin this around just a little bit just because I love hearing this.

I love hearing just the backstory and the way your mind is thinking as you're conducting these shows.

I'm going to invoice you later, though, for this.

what's gonna happen is i want to ask you about do you remember this lady named nancy leader

she's still around l-e-i-d-e-r yeah yeah yeah okay so zeta zeta zeta talk uh zeta talk yes zeta talk

do you remember she was i don't remember what year it was it was like 2006 2004 something like that

it's been a while and she faded away it's no pun intended but i was wondering for a person like her

She's pitching this end of the world scenario saying, you know, this planet X is coming and then nothing happens.

Do you filter out who you bring on in regards to that or do you allow your audience to do that themselves?

No, I don't do anything like that on the show.

It's a very, very dangerous zone to get into.

and the reason why I used to listen to her stuff

and others like her.

But if you are going to predict something like that,

it better happen.

It had better happen.

And if it doesn't, Marshall Masters and so forth,

if it does not happen, the hopes...

That's your reputation is gone.

You're messing with people's emotions.

Yeah.

And also there's a certain amount of fear mongering going into this.

I don't want to play into that.

And also, as a host and my audience, I do my research.

And if you go and you look at these timelines with the Sumerian text

and certainly the way that Sitchin presented the information,

Nibiru, on its best hope, is still 1,500 years out.

Sure.

Okay?

It's not next week.

It's not next month.

not 2012 yeah you know it's not it's not it's not any of these dates it's 1500 years away if we go

back and look this is why i i cannot bring on somebody to to talk about planet x i i just won't

do it unless they tell me it's 2000 years away then we have a conversation come on let's talk

about it because if we look at all of the historical timelines where significant things

at these 3,600-year cycles.

You can find them.

You can look at the year zero with the Star of Bethlehem.

Was that Nibiru, right?

It was 2,000 years ago.

So that puts right there, that puts Nibiru 1,600 years out.

And then you can back up and look at certain celestial events.

You can look at the Roman calendar, the Greek calendar,

Egyptian calendar, Chinese,

and look at these celestial events and significant things.

these 3,600-year loops.

And it looks kind of interesting, right?

But they stop at a certain point,

which puts Nibiru 1,600, 1,500 years out,

no matter what.

So my research says that somebody

that wants to present Nibiru

as entering our solar system right now

is trying to sell books.

And I'm not into that.

There are too many,

with it, every single asteroid, just about every single meteor, every single near earth orbit,

everything that has been found pretty small, smaller than a Nibiru has been found by an

amateur astronomer in his backyard with his own telescope. Right. They would have seen Nibiru

for sure. A long time ago, a hundred percent. And it would be over with. Yeah. So my own research

says I'm not going there. So that's it. I won't do it on the show. I will not. I will not. I'm

not going to be a false prophet. I'm not going to be part of it. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. And

you know, it comes down to this world that we're in. Credibility and integrity should be paramount.

And so for me, that's it. And that's where I... I love that, man. I love authenticity. I love that

You are just so committed. And I think it's a responsibility. You feel a connection to your

audience and people look up to you. They respect your judgment and you're bringing this person on.

So I can see why the research of that, you know, the guests that you bring on would be so important

and why doing that five, six days a week is just absolute madness. Right. Is there a topic that,

I mean, I know there's a bunch of topics that you really like. Is there a favorite of yours

genre that you are drawn to more well aside from ufos and the alien question my passion

is is egypt and lost history which is one of the same thing so that's going back to of course

gobekli tepi which you know is is something that i'm very very passionate about and i think there's

a connection there but yeah it's egypt and when you go back uh before the pharaohs and you go

before that you go before mene and you go before narmer and you go to the gods of egypt and the

demigods um and what was going on there that is oh it's it's just the most fascinating thing out

there absolutely you know down you know then there's time travel and then there's you know

and quantum theory and the physics of that

and parallel worlds and multi-world theory, multiverse.

Yeah,

very, very passionate.

Yeah, yeah. And secretly, sort of, I just love hearing about that. And you probably had Richard Hoagland on your show a couple times.

Once.

Once. I don't know how you feel about him. I don't know why, but I listen to his show every week.

He's still on the air?

he has his own little show on blog talk radio now and i feel bad for the guy because he has

probably every technical issue ever ever conceived of that you could ever ever think of he has that

issue and i've tried to help him i've tried to send him a couple facebook messages and stuff

like that and it's it says that he read them and i'm just like this is what you need to do to fix

your thing man and and it just doesn't get fixed so but for some reason his ability to talk about

These things that we're seeing in our solar system, this architecture of these pre-civilization, 10,000, 20,000 years, who knows how old these civilizations are, all scattered through the solar system.

It fascinates me.

And, I mean, we've had Graham Hancock on.

Have you had Graham?

Have you talked to Graham?

Many, many, many times.

He's one of my favorite people to listen to because he connects so many of the different veins of subjects that I'm really into.

Our psychedelics, in regard to healing trauma, ayahuasca.

Is this something that you have any interest in whatsoever?

I did it this morning.

Shut up.

No, you didn't.

You did ayahuasca this morning.

Yes.

I've got some 5-MeO DMT right now.

So I'm, ladies and gentlemen, I'm looking at,

I'm looking at the center of Jimmy's forehead.

And I don't think he's lying.

I really don't.

I just, I don't, I don't know.

I don't know.

But Jimmy, really, I mean, really be honest here, man.

Cause, cause, you know.

I'll tell you something really funny.

Let me, let me, let me, let me do this.

here and then we'll

end on this story. I'm going to tell a little story.

So

about

six months ago,

I'm at a private

party

on the top

of a mountain in

Malibu. So

use your imagination.

Okay?

Pretty

amazing.

And the people there and who the

are. Okay, we're talking about

top shelf of society.

And so we're up there.

And

this person comes up,

I'm not going to say male, female,

who, what, but says,

I'm a shaman

and

we are going to have

a private gathering,

invitation only, in two weeks

at our compound.

We would like to invite you.

Okay.

We'll be there.

So we drive back two weeks later to the same neighborhood, same general area,

and we enter the compound.

We're driving up and around a two-mile driveway,

and we wind around to this beautiful home,

a couple of Ferraris, a couple of Aston Martins, a couple of Bentleys,

couple of this, couple of that, couple of that.

And, you know, I pull in my 72 Datsun B210 pickup truck.

No, I'm kidding.

But anyway, so we pull in.

And it is all that.

And what is going on here?

It's a room, not one, but it's a room full of shamans, a room.

very famous director and some other you know and i'm looking around i'm like wow

and things were going on there were i you know without going into details

there were certain ancient medicines that were being talked about and distributed so i'm i'm

watching this and somebody comes up to me and does this okay this is from you know this is made by

old women in you know mountains in tibet at a monastery and goes boop a drop on my head

on my pineal gland.

And this thing,

so this drop

and this smell,

this weird thing,

and I could feel the heat and the oil

and I could feel it like going down my scalp.

Okay.

All right.

And I didn't even ask any questions.

I just, you know,

let's let this happen.

Okay.

All right.

What?

So about a half hour later,

we're standing in the man.

I don't care.

Here we go.

We're standing in this circle in the dining room.

And this director is talking about this project and the,

and the gathering of everybody and,

and the blessing of the,

you know,

the kombucha and whatever.

And I'm standing there and suddenly his mouth,

which is,

And I can see him talking, but I just lose him.

And I'm looking around the room, and I'm like,

why isn't anybody looking at these amazing-ass colors?

This place is gray.

And I'm looking around, and everybody, and I'm like, wow.

What was he saying?

And then I thought to myself, that drop.

It was that drop that went on my head, not on my tongue, not in my vein.

I didn't smoke it.

I didn't snort it.

I didn't eye drop.

It went, right?

What is going on?

And it allowed me at that moment to realize that everybody here got the drop.

I know that they did now.

And this is what, it was fantastic.

It was fantastic.

It was unbelievable.

And we drove away that night.

My wife and I were driving out.

She got the drop too.

And we just thought, what?

That was nuts.

The group, the people.

I can't really, if I told you some of these personalities that were there,

I'm not talking about movie stars.

That was going on too.

But different segments of society that are actually open to this.

You know, there are politicians right now in Washington, D.C. that know what a 5-MEO is, man.

I'm serious.

Because I saw it.

And I was flipping out, man.

It was a great experience.

So with that, man, wonderful.

Just thank you.

No, no, no.

Thank you.

really appreciate the background and that hilarious way to end this conversation and just

you know i have a lot of respect for you as a broadcaster what you do how hard you work it's

huge and i hope to you know be there one day myself and and maybe take your job on coast to

coast maybe you'll go you know monday through friday i'll call in your show

calling your show we'll just reverse this whole story yeah exactly jimmy man thank you so much

thank you so much where can where can people get to you know just just you know it's such such it's

such an ego thing to say yeah it's jimmychurchradio.com just go there everything is there

so YouTube, Twitter, live show, networks, syndication, email, contact, future, past,

you know, that's it.

It's all right there.

Everything is free, you know, so you can just go and the show plays for free, the live broadcasts

are free.

It's all there.

Love it.

Love it, man.

Mr. Church, thank you so much for being here, sir.

This is the human experience.

We are going to get out of here.

We will catch you next week.