Episode 14 – Robert Bruce – PPSD (Part 2)

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up guys as promised this is the second part of mr. robert bruce his book gives practical psychic self-defense Thank You frosting mr Bruce if I could just bounce in here so so this earth system seems pretty complex the way that everything is structured from these genetic attachments that we seem to have and these karmic attachments and a it does seem like spiritual warfare is is there a reason that you think have you discovered a reason for why this is

happening on earth well I can theorize to that I mean I’m very pragmatic in my approach to this and you have to be to make any headway you have to let go of all religious bias II and everything that’s not usual will test it out there feel the ultra-right doesn’t quit but you haven’t had a scar guard the only annoying thing like I said you could say one you could say there are natural unseen predators in the world now that is probably part of this now just like

in the physical universe predators are very valuable like if you look at how but I think they reintroduced wolves into Yellowstone Park and the land is recovering because it correct it causes the huge amount of damage when you’re done when you remove natural predators because they do a service they keep the gene pool clean they and you know various other things there everything works in high now we’re talking about something in

there you’ve got these beautiful deer and rabbits and that roaming around and you get these evil wolves coming in killing them eating them alive sometimes you know and if it all that’s evil let’s kill it off the poor little dear but if you kill them off what happens to the deer you get massive overpopulation overfeeding they kill off a lot of plants and the land starts to die because the lands been put on a balance so predators are necessary necessary in

an environment you could say we have a similar sort of thing biologically with viruses and bacterias and things like that now back to human human beings you could say that it is the interactions between the positive and the negative sites between the dark side with the demons and bad spirits and that and the angels and spirit masters it is the interaction between those with human beings in the middle the cause evolution to occur spiritual evolution to occur

right and that’s about as close as I come to it because wherever I look in the universe in the physical world in the spiritual world the afterworld everywhere I keep seeing one thing standing out and that’s evolution it is everywhere and so because it is everywhere it must have something to do with the reasons why things are the way they are hmm interesting so so this does aid in our natural evolution do you find do you find that in death and in the

afterlife that these attachments that we have follow us over not in the afterlife now once a person physically dies it’s a whole new ballgame now the ghost keep in mind there’s a mind split effect occurs at death which can affect what actually happens you could say you have your real time afric body the the lowest level energy body to the physical when the physical body dies that is like the ghost that can be occasionally seen and

most ghost sightings of deceased people happen within you know within two to four weeks of a person dying you get various phenomena and that which you’re quite common now but if a person does not move on then that person can through associated touching physical beings like trying to give relatives hugs in that you can end up like earthbound because when you touch as a ghost when you touch and loved one let’s see you try and hug

your wife or your daughter or something you will soak up like living physical universe energy through by osmosis just by trying to hug somebody and keep in mind that you’ll just pass through them you might give them a bit of a shiver they’ll they’ll notice it and that’s one that’s one side of it how do you think we can dissuade these beings from attaching to us I mean you at the beginning of this this recording we we discussed I mean you say that it’s being

at the wrong place the wrong time but how can we protect and strengthen our auras and our fields so that these these entities aren’t even you know persuaded or you know drawn to us well well you can you can strengthen your natural fields quote or if you like what part of your aura by living a good life and thinking good thoughts you know living a good life eating eating good quality food all of that helps getting some exercise I mean people are fit and

healthy generally have less problems but they are not excluded from them there is they generally have West problem but doesn’t stop them I mean I’ve had lots of people that are super fit athletes that I have come to me with Venus demonic possession attacks and things like that so it doesn’t exclude you but it does reduce your chances in general of picking up something but curiously in your travels like when you’re out you know in town you’re not going about your

life when you come up to come into contact something that may be trapped in a building now keep in mind these things can’t cross running water and our towns every street and every house is like surrounded by every apartment building is surrounded by running water and entities tend to accumulate particularly deceased enter these ghosts tend to accumulate in areas that are surrounded by water because they can’t cross the running water and most of them don’t

know how don’t know why but having an understanding I mean just the understanding I pass on in my book the practical psychic self-defense handbook gives you pretty much all you need to know because if you deal with these things fairly quickly in in infer the effective way just by using running water and that and like you get a problem occurs in an evening don’t delay having a shower you know take take action do something about it but as for

dissuading them in general this would be like trying to discourage fish from eating shrimp or trying to discourage sharks from eating whatever lead the communicator is not that good but letting the higher demons the more intelligent demons usually only interfere with a human being for a reason that could be something hereditary reddit orissa people happened hundreds of years ago but sometimes you can negotiate with a demon and you can

create a deal with it where it will leave you alone and give it you find have to find out what it wants and then you come up with an arrangement where you give it what it wants and it might be something really simple like on the fourth of July at sundown you will light a candle for a red candle for it and maybe burn a little bit of tobacco as like an offering remembering its birthday remembering its special day and something simple like that is will often

and if your face I mean you’re faced with something that is incredibly difficult to get rid of and it’s incredibly difficult to find anybody that can actually do anything about it if you want to try and forcibly remove an entity for many years now I’ve had people coming to me that has seen dozens and hundreds of healers and teachers and that but if you have a series of real problem they often the problem is intractable you can’t get rid

of it using you guess I you know spiritual new a kind of stuff it very often doesn’t work and they’re the ones which usually of course end up coming to me and even all of those I can help most of them probably ninety five percent of them but there when you get involved with something you know some some things we don’t understand enough off and all the circumstances and some problems will continue for a time until something changes what was an instance where this

happened it was happen for you where you had to make some kind of contractual deal with an entity I’ve done that with various people over the years a couple of dozen people where they’ve had some contact they can hear a voice or something like that and if you get past maybe the shouting and screaming and insane talk that’s going on inside the head and sometimes they want something very very simple it may have been you know something that happened 100 years

ago or so maybe you know a couple of times I found people they wanted an apology for something to happen a few hundred years ago maybe somebody was burnt at the stake and one of your ancestors was involved and this person is still really really angry because of what happened so sometimes an apology works sometimes changing your surname changing your name can work in many cases if you get an intractable problem many people have done this it’s kind of

social death for most people but it’s you know the family will go or we’ve got to give you his own name the family name and that but you can do it but it’s a good idea if you don’t tell anybody do it in secret to take another name you can also not do it legally you can do it like magically like have yourself baptized in a completely different name but I know a lot of people that have changed their names Rudy pole and to something

completely different and new and the problem is stopped overnight and they had serious problems before you know change the name and it just goes away because it’s a lot of demons are like lawyers and if suddenly your name was Braun and you change it to Smith well on their contract they are only attacking the Browns the Smiths are not involved there for the entity goes away and it stays away unless you change your name back it could come back have you have

you witnessed a demon or entity affect a large group of people when you hear about that i have seen it to an extent where an entity will affect maybe 70 people or so at one time i had i did a workshop several years ago the feathered pipe ranch which is a place in near helena montana and beautiful place lovely people there and we were on the last day of a seven day workshop so we knew each other pretty well it was about 70 people there big room and I’ve

arranged for a young woman who had a serious demonic attack going on to come down at the end of the day and I think it’s about 5pm she was due to turn up and she turned up about four o’clock and i’m presenting i’m talking to these people as we go and she quietly slipped in a lovely looking young blonde haired woman about 24 and she very quietly impolite he slipped in and sat near the door she found the chair and her friend who drove her down the sat next to her

very quietly politely now just about everybody in that room ninety percent of the people in that room hated her on sight and they could not explain it because i used this because we actually had another session after that because I noticed what happened and so extended it and I’ve got a show of hands and those people would have meant it and like yet seventy-five percent of the people admitted it and a bunch of other people admitted

afterwards went in and private to me I’m and this included one of the group leaders there who is a very spiritual person and this person is very trouble because how could that happen like I you know I meditate for a few hours a day I you know I’m a vegan long-term vegan and this and that and how could this happen that I suddenly feel hatred surge in me I could be so affected by a demon a negative entity whatever you want to call them and these things these

entities some of them are very powerful and I believe like you know for my examples at times I’ve seen this happen many times it’s like they have like a charisma they can project is one way of thinking about it another way is that the entity you could sail the demon can split it selves up into a hundred different it’ll like an astral projection where you you produce an energy copy of yourself it’s possible that a higher demon can create like a

hundred copy to itself and these go out and attack the people in the room those that are approachable and obviously there’s some in there that couldn’t get through to but I tend to lean in favor with the simplest solution that is there it’s an atmosphere it produces which is like it’s like a thought form where the atmosphere is is impregnated with the thought of this this person’s horrible you hate them you know stay away from

them you’re picking up basically how the entity feels about this person and but yeah I that was one case and I’ve seen many many other I mean a lot of the people that come to me that have been demonized for you know sometime have these amazing stories and they’re very very similar it’s like people hate me it’s like you could go up to a counter to get a hot dog for example and the guy they’re serving you is nice in that if one of these people walks in

behind you the person will instantly hate them and it’s like what what you know they’re really rude to them you will see this happen quite commonly that just serving people and stuff they come into contact with gas stations that it just suddenly route to them for no reason apparently and this is a part of the demonization whereby they the end of the drive to alienate the victim from up the support of other human beings which kind of makes sense in a certain way if

you are trying to break down the will of another human being if you’re trying to drive the divide and conquer but I have a quick question for you Robert is there’s a lot of renewed interest in the gnostic traditions and people are starting to kind of get a better understanding of the background concerning you know you mentioned you hood huh Bob hey the Jehovah God what is your understanding that you’ve explored this space and this is kind of down the

rabbit hole question but what is your understanding of the Demiurge and the role of say Jehovah and Satan and these type of entities that have this tradition in other religions and their role in what’s going on with these I guess lesser demonic beings I might not know i mean i could easily my cup simple something believable here but some of the bigger questions i really don’t know why this is happening it’s thats Sarah no I find it more US persons to do to be

able to deal with these things and foreign practical ways of other you know getting rid of these things I basically try and find things that situations that negative entities don’t like like if you have a household and if you know I I do this routinely a drill we come under attack here it’s quite obvious I feel that my wife feels that it’s obvious we’re getting the symptoms we go for a drill I mean the house is always lovely and clean but we like a sea

sir and we burn some frankincense and myrrh maybe a bit of cocoa in a mixture in a sense it’s a census you know the thing you swing by chains and you’ve got a a Chuck I’ll cup in there burning and you put granules of incense on you see them used in churches yeah and I swing that and of course it creates a huge amount of smoke we put on some special spiritual music and we are very very careful how we talk to each other because we’re on alert for influences

coming in like I said the girl turned up at the workshop everybody hated her this place have it in a relationship you know you will suddenly come out with something really hurtful or safe things in the wrong way and before you know you at each other throats or one person’s in two years and the other person doesn’t know what they’ve done but we wrote very vigilant about that so we’re very very careful and thoughtful about how we

conduct ourselves we put on some lovely music and we just keep lighting the incense we smoke the house out really smoke up I mean you can see the smoke in the air you can’t see the other end of the house through a pipe box an asshole what I’ve done no we do that we’re creating a place which a negative entity would find a horrible demand it’s a very uncomfortable for them to be there lovely spiritual music beautiful organic incense and lots of it and you know we

are to light up from there was you know if it’s bad even symbols and things like that even if I have to fumigate the house if it’s worse than that I used the hot red hot chili and you burn that in a sensor or in a in a cast-iron frypan and you need like smoke goggles and a wet towel for that one because of the burn your lungs and the ultimate of course is burning software powder and of course that is poisonous to you and to animals

so you’ve got to get the kids the animals out of the house and you have a few sensor areas you can make them using like ashtrays and that where you you like the cup of it the charcoal cup so it’s glowing and you put like a half a teaspoon of for powder which you can buy from the Bunnings you can buy it from any gardening type shop you can buy agriculture sava for a couple of dollars is very very cheap and I’ve got a home depot they’ll have it there in the

gardening section and you put like half a teaspoon on there don’t drown it and you like the ones at the phone to the house you shut all the windows then you leave the house for an hour and then you come back hold your breath open a couple of windows and wait till this you know for the fumes declare and this after doing it it makes your house smell beautiful because sulfur absorbs odors it absorbs nasty odors and they will also kill any insects in the house as

well weevils cockroaches you know anything will it will kill them fleas they all die so you kind of fumigate your house getting care yeah and that click cleanse your house out of and that will also burn away negative energies that may have built up and think about it’s like a dark pile of smoke I build up in a dark room somewhere well the sulfur fumes actually destroy the the dark energy to the building up in the house so that’s ruthless to the last

resort yeah try and since first can we uh can we get into some channeling like you talk about you talk about overshadowing and possession and and I there’s a lot of there’s some material floating around and the New Age movement that has come about through channeling work like these these people have channeled this material and they’re they’re pushing it around what’s your view on on channeled material well it depends on the material I mean there are

good spirits in the world and angels and they will sometimes um you know pass information for a human being in various ways now whether it is a voice that is heard of vision that is seen or even where the entity will you know inhabit a person for a while and you know and then pass on information through that person could be spiritual information and you look at people like you know you know Joseph Smith of the mutt of the Mormons people

there something similar happened there he encountered these angels or beings of light which passed on this information to him and other religions in the world contain this sort of material at least some of it that’s been passed on to them so there are good spirits as well but it’s like you can tell the information is Blanche fruits I mean you have to take that information and you’ve got to apply logic and reason to it and if it’s

anything practical and there you’ve got to test it out and see if it works because it doesn’t work you know I’m a firm believer in what works works you know regardless of how well it should work theoretically which is what you’re dealing with today a lot of things including channel material on how to deal with spirit entities and and demons than that a lot of the methods given don’t work and in fact I’ve read some books get by well-known authors dealing

with you know negative spirit entities and that and who and these spirits are channeled spirits claim that spirit possession is impossible it cannot happen like a spirit cannot enter a person like a bird flies into a tree for example now I know that is a lie now when pushed and of taking information here from an author named Allan Kardec from over 100 years ago he wrote the spirits book the mediums book and I’m quoting from the mediums book yeah and

when he pushed the people because he had some experience with people being possessed in that they did admit then that well if a spirit does interfere with a human being it’s only because the human being has something inside of them which is like what is inside the spirit so like attracts like and that’s why you’ve attract the spirit here now I totally disagree with the whole like attracts like thing it’s been hugely corrupted and it and

it’s used as Maxim’s are generally faulty it doesn’t work in real life and it definitely doesn’t work in the spiritual universe not as a maxim that covers everything and this is the argument i was having when the idea for us off of the contract for the practical psychic self-defense handbooks the original and where I want the argument was I mean these people were stuck in the rut of its Karma it’s this and it’s that you know as nothing you could do

about and it’s like the person suffering attack they’re bringing on themselves some why they’ve been dabbling if they’ve got bad thoughts or they’re a bad person like an alcoholic attracts an alcoholic spirits sort of thing and where I want I’ve done extensive work with children including babies six and nine months years of age now I’ve seen babies like 6-9 months years of age which are suffering full-blown demonic attacks and these babies are screaming

they’re rigid there’s physical damage occurring you know muscles tearing and things like that horrible things and I’ve proven these are attacks with the mother’s consent of course it comes with me by walking the baby across running water and there’s instantaneous stops stops the attack and you walk across it as soon as a baby crosses that water the baby it goes limp and it’s googoogaga happy little baby falling asleep now if I take and I’ve done this many times if

I take one step back over that water the way okay scream go so baby I’ve done that with babies I’ve done it with my own children I’ve done it with myself I’ve literally once I was in a situation where i was under a major attack and i’m standing one side of a water main that was crippled with spinal sciatic pain had to stagger out of the half to go home but when i pass through the gate where the main water pipe is going right under the game you could see the astral

there had been was disturbed weather it being replaced or worked on recently now is massive plane I was hoping I’d tears running down my face and the instant I step through that gate the pain stopped and I go well I’m okay now this is an item about 8pm in the dark and I thought well I’d go back and join the party one step back down I went instantly and oh that’s a good idea hobble back you know through the gate again it disappeared again I

did that a couple times before i realized there was something over there though I can’t see there’s biting me I couldn’t sense it I’m quite sensitive it was just there now I experimented with this I move my foot up to that pipe very very slowly sliding along the ground and when I got to an exact point and my tippy toe just crossed the water I could feel a spasm and pain instantly shot up my leg into my back and I was like almost crippling pain and pull it back

pain stops so I had pain no pain pain no pain pain no pain and I’ve done that experiment dozens of times with myself and with other people and it’s like valid it this is what’s happening we don’t know exactly what’s happening here but we have a pretty fair idea keeping it very simple that these things whatever they are cannot cross running water and using that one print so this is my gift to the world I mean some if you go back into the myths and of the

past you come across records where ghosts and werewolves and vampires are not allowed they can’t cross running water various things like that can’t cross running water and it’s like it still myths and old wives tales and this is where your vampire movies and that come from even the fact that a vampire must have your permission before it can enter your home but once it has permission you cannot revoke that that is also valid a lot of spirits need your

permission before they can actually attack you trine possess you they try and elicit permission permission the big issue which applies to many spirits but not all so it’s complicated I know the basics here and I know things at work but there are some fine details and that you know the different types of entities and that which I don’t know enough details on yet to give like a you know a credible description I can very easily make something up totally believable

which I believe a lot of other authors and people that write on these subjects and people that channel do that they that you get this religious belief system biases which got to fit this theory in these books and the things which are commonly accepted and you fall into that trap I mean this is why we have a scientific method to protect the realm of science from bias and hearsay and all the things which would destroy science because you know a scientist is

by definition an open-minded skeptic and when you take information you must it must be through personal experience and of course there is empirical knowledge which is the things which have been done experiments and things which have been worked out which everybody is continually researching looking for errors as you know trying to make sure that scientific record is absolutely one hundred percent the truth as far as they know it today so I’d like to get more of

an understanding of you know you you and your experiences unions and robber Buse Robert verse says the man what is your understanding of based on everything that you’ve said everything experiences you had of reality of what this entire thing is what you make of it what is our place in it how do we make sense of this or how have you made sense of it at all well I make sense of it primarily by focusing on what’s in front of me and

keeping it simple you know the KISS principle keep it simple that works and also by you know getting rid of any bias 78 years ago was so a master materialized to me in my room I was standing up the overhead light was on and the math to explain to me why I couldn’t make any progress now at the time I had a typical New Age type belief system probably similar to most of your listeners but the master explained to me that how this worked and

how this I was blinding myself to the actual grade of reality I could see bits and piece of it but when you tried to work with it a lot of it was unworkable didn’t make sense and he explained to me the way of the master and he said it has always been this way and it will always be this way because this is your only way it can happen and that is basically to apply scientific method to spirituality basing Thunder under basing your beliefs which are very important on

personal experience only and he explained to me how to do it he said write a list of all the things you believe in and you’ll get page after page of stuff particularly relating to spiritual metaphysical things and he said then write another list of the things you believe in which are based upon part of personal experience your own and i ended up when I did that the first time I had a little piece of paper with about nine items on there and I had

several pages of other things which I now had to discard and it is to make what happens there the things which you within the realm of personal experience and anything on that list which is a one-off experience you’ve got to put an asterisk next to it because that’s a one-off personal experience you seen one UFO for example and now you need to really find more you keep a lookout for that but explain to it is it your core beliefs what you take into your heart

those nine things I took into my heart not discarded the rest if these things in your heart your core beliefs he says to use an analogy here they’ve these beliefs form perceptual filters for your mind and these filter out information that flows between you and the greater reality collective consciousness or of higher reality including your high itself now your higher self and the divine live in absolute truth in absolute reality in

the now now just imagine the typical person’s like me back then before I did this let’s say to use an analogy my core belief system of triangular I’m putting my hands together making a triangle and now you put that triangle over the top of your head now everything that you download from the collective consciousness inspirationally creatively music science spiritual thoughts everything has to pass through that triangle that triangular filter now

let’s say that all truth and creativity is spherical orbs of truth round orbs odd truth now if you force an orb through a triangle you are going to destroy it or severely damaged it and this is why we have so much trouble communicating with our higher selves with God with spirituality is because we have so many beliefs inside of us which are just not true and they’re not based on personal experience a lot of the things which we believe in I just untrue

and you look for out all the literature in the new age is not just a new ages everywhere you’ll find errors that people have made hundreds of years ago 50 years ago have been put into print and now they’re commonly accepted beliefs like you were saying earlier about alcohol and tobacco attract negative entities if you just believe that then it’s obviously you’ve got you can’t smoke you can’t drink because you might attract something to you but if

you examine that a bit more closely you’ll see it’s not really quite like that and there’s nothing wrong with you having a glass of wine with your dinner or two it’s it goes like that but the a psychologically comfortable way of doing this which explained to me was one you have your core beliefs in your heart those nine things hold out your left hand and there you have your probabilities list things that you think are probably

true but you’re waiting personal experience before you take it into your core beliefs so you’ve got a bunch of things here and then you hold out your right hand and there is your possibilities list things that you think are possible are in the universe but you don’t have enough information or experience to take that to the probable list or into your core beliefs and the things in your probable list are waiting personal experience before you can take

any item from there and place it in your core your core beliefs in your heart and this is what blocks us from our higher self this is where I came from I put this into practice darling many many years ago and this is why my approach to the greater reality is quite different from anybody else’s because it must be based on personal experience now fortunately I have a lot of personal experience in the arrows I’m interested in yeah I really like that I like the

core belief system is mr Bruce we have some questions that were submitted to us if you don’t mind they’re they’re a little bit off-topic they’re not psychic self-defense related they’re going up there Miraval shall we move on sure I have a document about that experience I call the catch basic concept which details that experience with the master and the the process of purifying your belief system so i used to do if you want i’ll give you a copy of that and

you can make it available for download it’s a PDF feel absolutely def ok I’m finished ok so the first question is I’ve been waiting years on the Kundalini book which was referenced on his website as coming soon it looks like astrodynamics doesn’t make a direct mention of such a book anymore is there but there is a reference to a program called the energy body Kundalini and the chakras which is also not yet available is there a book if not when is the

program going to be available the program was released several months ago we put a since souls into karate and that’s a video based program probably on that 20 20 hours or so video and everything I know about Conda Lee and the program is called raising Kundalini and if you go to my website at astrodynamics calm and go to the catalog you’ll find that’s at the top there one of the raising Kundalini that’s the program so we have a lease at now wanted to do the program

first before I wrote the book on it which will be called probably Kundalini dynamics because I like the name is descriptive because I’m getting a lot of feedback helping people to raise Kundalini through this program and I’ve learned lots of other little bits and pieces on you more than the basics but I’m getting lots of other feedback and interesting stuff from this program so I’ll probably start on that book and probably six months or so time and it

you know probably give me six months or so to write it and I’ll be released through my publishers red red will and have the roads cool next question astral projection and lucid dreaming is it the same or is there a relationship between those two there is a relationship I should explain this in the second edition of astrodynamics now there’s two editions of that to the first one was released in 1999 and I’ve totally rewrote it in 2010 and we released a 10

year anniversary edition it’s my best seller by far that wonderful book and I explained this in there basically if you start with real time after projection at the bottom at the bottom here which is a closest you can get to the physical universe and this is like projecting in the real world you’re like a ghost in the real world so you’ll find yourself walking around your house and that and everything looks pretty much the same

now you have dreaming lucid dreaming and wake induced lucid dreaming ah that is actually a lot easier than learning how to consciously astral project and it’s actually much more powerful in many many ways now anything to do with the dream mind is a projection into the mental dimension it’s a projection of the mental body and this is why dreams lucid dreaming and waking juice lucid dreams a lot more memorable and when you’re in those

experiences your mind feels more normal which means you can remember things better like who you are what you’re going to do you have a plan now in an astral projection you have from real time after projection you go up a gradient into the after all planes and realms now there’s a direct parallel with these and the mental dimension so if you hold them side by side you’ve got the astral dimension the mental dimension here and they go from the low

area both of them have a real time zone level so the mental dimension you have a level you can project into real-time like a ghost in the real world and it’s a lot more solid and they all have they have a you go higher you have the after all planes and you have the mental planes now these are the same thing you are just perceiving the after appliance from the mental level so they’re bit more different a bit more colorful a bit

more complex Percy from the their mental dimension and there are higher bodies and higher levels beyond that but those are the ones that need to focus on because any experience with the others is incredibly rare so what most people have now whether you have a mental projection or a an astral projection and how high in the astral astral planes real time or whether you have a lucid dream or wake induced lucid dream that it depends upon how your chakra is a

functioning and you check with a very complex things so the combinations of your chakra is and how they are functioning during experience you will have a part a normal projection is part astral and part mental body and there is a mixture there a variable mixture people have mostly astral and you will find if it’s mostly astral they’re stuck in the real time zone and that is a a projection of the flesh of your body and this is provable if you study it that

you are projecting from the flesh and in that state you will find it’s difficult to think difficult remember who you are what sort of plans you might have had it’s a very sexual environment you know you have these strong animal instincts because this basic human beings are animals well you know and we’re related to every other animal on the planet in that sense but yeah there’s a mixture of astral and mental you could say energies

in most astral projections and this is why you get such a different range of experience with all these different oddities you know a huge range of different types of experience where people experience different things from other people it’s not consistent and this is why because of how the chuck was are functioning and the chakras are of course quite unique so yeah that basically explained that’s my working theory at the moment and it’s very

workable it works okay next does the moon have anything to do with astral projection and what is on the Dark Side of the Moon I think it does I have something to do it because human beings are affected by the full moon particularly and some people are affected by the new moon I personally I am affected by the full moon I don’t notice the near moan but I do am affected by the the new moon and I do tend to I find I tend to have more

astral projection spontaneous after projections and visions around that time when the moon is full and a lot of other people do too the I mean it’s definitely not to do with the ESA the gravity of the of the moon you know you think these massive gravitational force is that because often there is a moon up in the sky and the date on that we can’t see that the moon is there or if they’re at night you know with a new moon the moon is still there we just

can’t see it you know because it the angle is wrong it’s not reflecting light off the Sun so it’s definitely not the gravity I think it may be something to do with the light reflecting off of the moon but that’s just a guess there’s no real no real understanding of why that is you know that happens but it anecdotal evidence does suggest that it does affect people are considerably as to what is on the Dark Side of the Moon I’ve been to the moon many times and

it’s basically you know more of the same is just the light is a lot lower it’s kind of darker as for anything I may have found on the moon I don’t generally talk about that okay ah is it possible to pull someone out of their physical body and into the astral realm I have tried that to death you wouldn’t believe how many times I get asked to do that and I’ve tried that but what happens is if it actually fits any with what we’ve

other things would be talking about if if you and I synced up and let’s say I’m going to meditate doing after projection at the time when you are going to bed and you’re going to be relaxed it’s like 10pm waiting to come out of your body now to figs happen here if I astral project to your room and I approached you and I try to pull you out of your body you will sense interpret that as a massive psychic attack very unpleasant you’re not massive tingling shivers you

may feel the hand and summit trying to pull you out of your body and I kind of guarantee that you’re going to panic you know in that it’s very unpleasant experience there now the other thing is let’s say I caught you just at the right time whereby you are going to be jazzed about after projecting over there at the right time maybe I’ll try and pull you at your body’s already loose and one after a projector can touch another at

the right time but this would be very tricky to you know coordinate but let’s say us there at the right time in the arms already floating loose then I could grab that arm and gently pull you the rest of the way to your body because you’re already out you want you asked her body is actually just floating still inside your physical body but it’s already separated now that would work and you wouldn’t get the negative side effects of the unpleasantness of you

know trying to force you to after a budget now I have done this on many occasions but the problem there is it’s very very rare that you would remember what has happened that nothing like before I mean I could take you and we could travel together and I’ve traveled with other people we could go to Paris and you know fly around the Eiffel Tower go to the moon and do all kinds of things but I always guarantee you won’t remember this when you wake up no matter

what I say no matter what you do there is a problem with after projection in that in order to produce an astral projection your physical body mine must be in the process of falling asleep now that’s kind of mandatory now in order for you to re-enter your body you must be in the process of waking up you need some kind of arousal there to allow the astral body to re-enter you now what happens after you have to project a good part of your energy shifts into the

astral body and you will feel paralyzed and really weak and very tired and normally you will just go to sleep and when you go to sleep you will bomb enter stage 1 2 3 sleep very very quickly we’re in a couple minutes you’ll be on stage for asleep which is quite deep sleep now in that state sometimes an alarm clock or somebody trying to wake you up will fail if you’re you know because you’ll feel really really tired and because a lot of energy is also out

of your body which makes you more tight and so you are not to be able to reintegrate now if you come back let’s say we say we’ll stay out five minutes this is more workable and then you’re going to try and get back into your body passion Lee savagely shouting your success well that will hopefully make an imprint of a powerful memory that we you will realize in your mind as you wake up you’ll have the memory of it that’s a technique I teach

people usually ten seconds out of body for the first OBE and then dive back in passionately screaming success to try and make it an impact on on the human mind but longer than that you know it could be several hours before your physical body will wake up and if you’re at you you’re in your astral body if you try and get back in before then your physical body will feel cold and damp and very dead it feels like dead meat and it’s quite shocking and a lot of

people being traumatized not knowing that they’ve got out of body and they try to get back in the physical bodies fall into a deep sleep it’s not easily awakened and the subtle sensations of a returning after body are usually not enough to awaken the sleeping physical body mine so you’re laying on top of your physical body and it feels cold and you will think oh my god I’ve died and you go into a panic usually if you don’t know what’s happening what to do there

of course is just to go on your way explore the astral you’d probably won’t remember it in the morning but as you can see it’s quite a complex thing it’s not something that’s easily done pulling somebody out yeah okay last question from our guests here do you have you met any aliens in your journeys yes I have yeah I have several yeah I’ve seen giant spaceships the size of battleships or aircraft carriers and I’ve been in company when I was like 19 I was in the

mercantile marine Merchant Navy you know cargo ships and going from where I am to around Darwin particularly up that way we often see these giant ships coming down and they looked like imagine an asteroid the size of quite a big ship and it’s like football sort of shaped with made of iron with pock marks in it like a typical asteroid and but this has like a bright blue green or are very distinct around it and we had one landed probably

half a kilometer five hundred yards off the port bow on a beautiful klebs moonlit night and it decelerated and it slipped into the water without a splash and we saw two in one night lots of things like that I was also physically abducted at least twice that i know off and i recovered the memories to one of them i was in the company of my mother we were making a small road trip like a 35-minute drive and coming back about midnight and we were like literally

abducted and we lost four hours of time and we got home we finished that journey we left about midnight we got home about four thirty am so at least four hours missing and I recovered those memories many years later because I always remember the first part of it driving along the road this brilliant light appearing through the trees going through a wooded area and the ship moving out and years later want to recover the rest of the memory this

fairly spherical ship very quickly landed on the road wrap went down and I me I drove my car carefully up the ramp and turn the engine off and put the handbrake on now something was communauté telepathically controlling me which is a little bit like possession in a way but it’s kind of done remotely and I we’re takin up onto this huge ship which is in high orbit not Lowell but is a really big ship and the room we were taken to there was a few little greys

you know running around involved but most of the people there were the aliens were human looking quite human and there was a ballot it’s like something out of Congress you imagine you there was a big room and there was this huge ball of light in the middle about the size of a you know 30-inch monitor but a ball which was glowing and throbbing and policy unlike a dyess in the middle and there is a better hundred chairs or more big

comfortable expensive looking chairs like you’d find in Congress or something positioned around this central ball and there was about a hundred people probably sitting there or less and my mother happily smiled and went and sat down and looked to the ball and kind of zombie doubt you ever seen the Dark Crystal it’s an old animated puppet thing for men on the exact it’s kind of like that anyway but I didn’t sit down I was talking to a man and it wasn’t I was

excited and he took me aside I mean you know I took me away from that room we went for a walk around the ship and while we were walking there were some big windows they’re like bait windows but spaceship he looked like you’d find on in a Star Trek on a galaxy-class starship big windows and we could see the earth we’re obviously in a high orbit and you know looking down and he explained to me what was happening he says he said for hundreds of years we

have been abducting human beings astrally and also physically when we can if it’s convenient but also astral projected doubles keeping them on most people when they project they just sleep project which means they just the astral body just comes out of their body and floats above the physical body mimicking the sleeping position so they abduct those and they do the same sort of thing with them he said the ball of light in the middle is a telepathic communication

device he said what we’re doing we are programming healthy social trends into your population and things like equal right you know anti-racism you know really good healthy things which had been growing around in the world for the last hundred years you know racial equality sexual equality all kinds of things like that and yeah that’s about all tell you about that at the moment but because I’m not allowed to talk about anything other

beyond that but what he did say he said the reason they’re doing this they’re very benevolent he says your civilization has to pass through a narrow very narrow window like a an envelope window and a mailbox he says and you must do it in this exact way and pass through that little slot in order for you to become a type 1 civilization and enlightened civilization and if he said we’ve attempted to do this before a number of times he wouldn’t say how many

but he says and if you he said we’re very hopeful this time he says but if you fail it’s like we’ll just have to go back and do it all again takes a couple thousand years well interesting mr Bruce I just wanted to thank you for for doing this with us again and you’re definitely an interesting guy you have a lot of really interesting stories what do you have in the works right now I know that you have a workshop that you’re doing

you want to tell us more about that right they will pop in the programs we have an astral dynamics com where we have the raising Kundalini program the astral projection mastery program they’re very extensive programs are all in hi-def now we also have manifestation and self-healing a program which was actually a workshop which was filmed professionally at the edgar cayce foundation in virginia beach the IRA foundation and long story i ended up

with copyright of that for that one i also have a a workshop coming up if you go to glide wing calm glide wing calm that starts in about a week or two about a week’s time I’ve done of the paper in front of me and that is the practical after projection energy work intensive and this is the five-week course using hemi-sync technology audio trance inducing audio signals and the idea of that is for five weeks we work on you know these cds and we teach you

the basis of energy work and astral projection exit techniques but it’s done in such a way it’s live in the fact that we have our private forum there where all the people taking part can ask me questions every day I will solve problems and troubleshoot things are the going on give you your best advice very very funny we have a lot of fun but it’s a bit of a commitment from most people because it got runs for five weeks and you know the idea is if you work for one

hour a day with the cds and also do some energy work and after projection exit work and that as well probably ends up two hours a day a little bit of reading then you know you have the maximum chance of succeeding in having a natural projection including their things like the slight discomfort theory of the the short OBE technique ten seconds out of the body we push that and it here we have a great deal of success it’s probably the most successful course on

astral projected that ever be made cool okay with that dr. G you got anything else man no Rob thank you so much for coming back it was absolute pleasure you by the way it’s feel listeners i also have a community unit or with a few thousand members at a lot of free material and that is at astrodynamics org o RG astral dynamics org you might want to put that up and yeah I definitely wanna link on the website for everyone together send you that document

the catch plastic concept once we finish this recording looking looking forward to trying that course out and having like a real real Asheville dynamic all right all right wait but I mean even if you can’t take part every day for the five weeks I mean it’ll give you a good chance to review it and you know get a good feel for what’s happening sound good cool well this is the human experience and i’m xavier my co-host dr.

G just thank you to Robert Bruce for doing this again we will catch you guys next week