Episode 168 – Ancient Architects, Civilizations and Monolithic structures w/ Hugh Newman

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of humanity has been hidden from us it's gonna be a tremendous program and enjoy this conversation the human experiences in session my name is Xavier katana my guest for tonight is mr. Hugh Newman Hugh is a scientist researcher Explorer author and a person

who has dedicated his life to exploring the world and studying the ancient origins of the mysterious megalithic structures around the world Hugh regularly lectures on these topics all across the world his work has been featured on the History Channel ancient

aliens BBC Sky TV and now the human experience Hugh it's such a pleasure welcome to hxp thanks so much appreciate being here Sohyun you've been doing this for so long at least 20 years and you know this this topic isn't so foreign to you know this show we've had Graham

Hancock on the show and I know that you've worked very closely with Graham but I you know I'm really curious to know when did you know when did I mean let's paint a picture for our audience at the the scale of everything going on here but when did you personally realize

that you know mainstream history mainstream science has been lying to us you know when did you sort of make the shift into studying this type of work I got that kind of revelation quite a long time ago probably 20 or more years ago when I started looking into the sacred

landscape of Britain and around the world I was traveling I started travelling around that time as well and I realised there was a kind of subtle invisible kind of aspect to these megalithic ancient sites pyramids and other sites as well and I felt that

there was something going on I started feeling things at these sites and experiences even as strange things would happen myself started looking into it and the crop circles occur here in Britain as well and many of them kept appearing near these megalithic sites I

thought well how could this possibly be if these are for real why would they choose these spots and so forth I started investigating the the fact that there were hidden geometries and there were earth energies invisible aspects really of these sites and what

I started dowsing and I bought some equipment so I could test magnetic and different types of readings at these sites I realize there's something really going on here and then science backs it up there's research been done for hundreds of years really suggest in

these are indeed energetic sites and they have earth energy lions and ley lines that connect them all up and so that there was that angle I came in it really I came in from a very kind of really esoteric angle if you liked it didn't come in from you know like a

standard you know academic angle or anything like that so and that's work that's why I kind of maintain my sort of focus but going into a few different subjects as the research led me there obviously Graham Hancock was it was an influence very big influence and the

worldwide aspect that he uncovered with especially with the archeoastronomy but also John Michell was a huge influence for me he's a British author published but 20 books some classics like the view over Atlantis and he he saw what you know

what I was feeling he wrote about that back in the 60s and 70s and that really blew my mind when I realized what he that he what he had been writing all these years now and ended up meeting him founding a conference based on his research called megalomania and yeah and

it really went from there and since then I've got into all sorts of very interesting shall we say subjects yeah I mean I can only imagine eight I feel like you know so much of this and and kudos to you for pushing forward against you know mainstream because I feel like

mainstream archaeology has hidden this from us for so many years but something that you said in in the intro there you know flagged for me which was that you started having experiences that you couldn't explain yeah let's get into that before we get into the sights and

what were the experiences what's a few little things actually because I was going into a lot of crop circles as you do in England a lot of people do that and also I was starting to meet people who could dowse like use dowsing rods and pendulums and these were just kind

of you know crazy people you know doing this this was like a serious thing for them it was a lie style and it was their actual like professional geomancer's have been trained for years it's been hereditary passed from generation to generation and

so forth and so once you start sensing how to pick up these energies that's what it really got me I mean even before that I had a couple of experiences I was on some Michaels mount for instance down in Cornwall this this kind of mounted in the sea with a huge kind of almost like

a cathedral or a church on it and that's got a massive well-known crossing point of all these different and it's just some micro and apparition of him this light being has been seen there this angel they call him and I went there with my my brother Emmanuel II many

years ago very long with us like seventeen or something I went down into the Crypt and I this outrageous experience of light just taking over me and I could literally step out of this chamber but then go back into it and I could feel it again you know step out it

would be gone and so it was definitely you know like projecting down into this particular spot and so that really moved me and got me I didn't understand what's going on back then there's only a few years later I realized this was a major energetic site had been revered for

thousands of years and there's major energy lies and crossing points and everything else going on there I said that that kind of when that kind of thing happens you realize something's going on I mean there's one other couple of other things when I was in the

subterranean chamber of the Great Pyramid in Egypt this is back in 2012 actually on weirdly on December the 21st 2012 and we would talk tour group out there we just had to go there and and I was sick I got really sick extreme food poisoning and I went down but I just

thought I've got to go in I went down into the subterranean not the King's Chamber all the Queen's the one underneath the pyramid deep underneath the earth and when I got down there I was completely healed of my sickness and I've had for about a week while only

whilst I was in there when I came out there 30 minutes later the sickness came back and maintained itself for another week or two so something in there was somehow neutralizing this sickness sure what that was this day I don't know but so four different levels of experience

there's a few other things that have happened it's worth since and before then but you know when you kind of start understanding that there's actual energy at these sites this isn't just make-believe this isn't just wishful thinking this has actually been recorded

scientifically by people like john burke philip callahan another excellent scientists and researchers there's something certainly going on with these sites and this is what the really the megalithic sites are really where it seems to be happening yeah I mean I feel

like it's a little bit sub-threshold you know for most people if they just don't know you know people know about the Giza pyramids and you know but they don't really understand that you know the way that I like to think of it is that the pyramids in Giza are kind of

like a new neural cortex and it extends out from there but there are so many other sites all around the world and yeah I do think there is a resonance that isn't involved with this frequency a tone ley lines I mean whatever you want maybe their meridian points for the

earth you know we have them in our body so why not why not the earth as well I'm curious is there you know it I'd like to if we can give our audience a picture of how immense this is how immense a project like all of these structures would be to become an architect of you

know so what is what is to you the most unique site that you've been do an SLS that's a good question I've been to quite I've been a quite a few sites now over the years but I I can't say I actually have a favorite this is a bit odd people often ask my favorite side

the most important and I don't know I kind of get a sense that the more likes every time I go to a new site that's my favorite site I get so excited I'm like a little child at Christmas just going to look at a megalith in a field somewhere and this is where the name

megalomania comes from here Romania who visit in these megaliths but the the grand scale of this is it's not just Britain it's not just the stone circles it's not just the pyramids of Egypt which are also megalithic because they're made of massive stones major

megalithic constructions there's a global thing going on here it's reliable network and this was there was communication it must have been back there because many of these sites have the same style the same geometry hidden within them they have archeo

astronomical alignments very specific ones all over the world they have energy associated with them with the same design principles in place geomantic and feng shui type design principles within the structures somehow those is very high knowledge that was being shared

around the planet not just in one place around the entire planet and they would not just connect in these sites up with coded information within them but actually through a grid around the planet there's almost like they were aligning to each site all the way around

the planet and all aligning to each other and it created what John Michell my mentor called the enchantment of the landscape where he saw it from a very spiritual side but there was actually the scientific principles that main decks or manifested disenchantment that

everyone lived in and experienced it was like a golden age and it when all these sites were functioning when they were energetically kind of functioning working and everything was correct they would have this effect not only drawing up energy from the earth and the

underground water and little low recurrence all parts of the natural Earth system but also certain times of years when they were aligning to these solar lunar and other astronomical events they were charged up for cosmic energy as well and people would

celebrate and experience that as it happened so these were devices you know for the spirit really and I think that's one way of looking at it we also have other aspects we find again worldwide like archaea acoustics where the science of sound and how it affects matter was

incorporated into the design of these sites almost almost entirely based upon the human voice so clearly they were designed in them with acoustics and reverb you know and different frequencies in mind and they were using the human voice to maintain

this enchantment I believe all this energy around the planet and also very much in local areas as well I mean wow it's tremendous when you start to think about you know the scale of operations that you would have to be at you know not only just moving these stones these

massive stones around but then also replicating you know if you take a civilization that is separated not only geographically but also you know through time by thousands of years you and you noticed that okay they're using the same building styles they're using the same

sort of you know blueprint to build these these these structures so okay what can we infer from this we can infer you know the that there could have been some sort of communication do you think that all of the builders were you know originated from you know the same kind

of people or how does it work that's a good question I mean we're where this originated from it's been a tough question for a very long time but the discovery of Gobekli Tepe in southeast Turkey has opened up the possibility that deed that was the area

southeast Turkey the Bible lands were these extremely ancient sites that go back twelve or so thousand years with very sophisticated geometries stone circle designs beautiful relief carvings and so forth it so seems like that is the current you know agenda but that's

not the origin point of what we think now but you know even a stonehenge for instance just as an example there's three giant wooden post holes were found the head pine almost like totem poles in them which could have been up to 30 feet high they're about three feet or one

meter across and these are 10,000 years old which is about five or six thousand years older than the main Stonehenge construction so they were marking the position of Stonehenge ten thousand years ago just at the time when Quebec Lee Tepe was coming to a close

suggesting there may have been a movement to this part of the world there's certainly some evidence to suggest that the origin point probably was the area but we have other anomalies around the world which are extremely ancient which don't add up some of these are contested

there's arguments about carbon dating and so forth we have we have like the postholes of Stonehenge we also have submerged stone circle semi stone circle off the coast of Israel which is about seven thousand years I would call a delirium we have evidence in a couple of

other a few other parts of the world that that may be much older than people realize and so this is really opening up the idea of sophisticated human beings a much earlier date and they were obsessed by building stone and like you know and I think one of the main reasons all

these different sites were made is they were made to last and they were there for multiple generations to utilize so they had a practical purpose I believe not just a ceremony or ritual but actually they were generating this energy I believe which has been now

tested by John Burke and others and it would it would charge up the seeds and grains and other things like this so they would guarantee fertility in their crops and also in their livestock and in themselves you know actually it would enhance themselves and so this is this

is like you know this is major geomancy of the landscape GM NC of really the being and the spirit and so this is what these people were doing and so that that I believe it seems at the moment even though there's potential evidence of earlier cultures that the area around

gobekli tepe southeast Turkey that's where Italy but most certainly doing it there because we know it's been carbon-dated but German archaeologist is definitely you know disabled and the principles maintained themselves with somehow for thousands of years yeah I

mean it seems like it's opened almost to interpretation until we find the next thing and you know so it does seem that you know go blackie temps butchering that but you know that does seem to that area Mesopotamia does seem be the hotbed of where all of this kind

of popped off but you know it does seem as well that I don't know let's stick with let's stick with glue Becky tap Bay let there was there was something you went there and um I think from what I read you you found that there were these carvings that of these statues that of

these humans that are they're wearing these space-age belts and you you talk about the pillars I mean what were some of the the features there that you found the most exciting gobekli tepe is a very unusual place it's got these huge kind of pillars these two central thin

pillars in the center with a t-shaped top and they're really anthropomorphic forms of humans you can't see the facial features on the strange abstract design but you can see the arms coming down the side with the hands touching the navel and also a strange space age type belt

with H's on them and also serpents and other creatures carved in 3d relief on these remarkable limestone pillars some of the stones are 24 feet tall and so it's an extremely sophisticated very megalithic site and there's potentially many maybe 30 or 40 of these stone

enclosures which have these two main pillars in the center but around them there's like an oval or circle of stones usually with about 12 pillars again these are all t-shaped with beautiful carvings on them and there's all sorts of other features that suggests a very

high level of sophistication most of it was deliberately affect all of it was deliberately covered up you know when they decommission the site around 10,000 years ago they used it for about two or three thousand years whoever they were and they covered it up and like they

fixed it they kind of repaired it then they've rubble in and then they covered it up completely and hid it like a time capsule to be discovered in the modern age room now and and I think that they did that for a reason because it was so important it was such it was like the

turning point in history of humanity you know when this was taking place it's tremendous is so fascinating I mean was there any sort of link that you found before between these sites and other places that you thought okay there's some sort of a message in a

bottle happening here and it's pointing me in a direction that that you know I should look this way for sure but most certainly the fact that this time circles is interesting I've written a book about stone circles and I've looked into this and have been researching it

for many years that the fact is you find them there there's suddenly they emerge somehow in Britain and Europe around 3000 BC 5,000 years ago which is strange and there and then there were thousands of them everywhere within literally 100 or 100 200 years also some of the

carvings on the pillars of Gobekli Tepe are very oddly Alice they're specifically designed stylistically designed creatures like critters animals foxes even Dodos apparently and many other creatures birds and other such things if you go to I've travelled a lot

to Peru and Bolivia over the years and there's a couple of sites there the fact there's more than a couple now we found more around Lake Titicaca which have exactly the same carvings almost precisely identical some of them are even the same size

they look like they're designed by the same designer really you know like the architects we're doing the same things they have a similar type of stonework to other sites in the Middle East but these sites around Lake Titicaca are only supposed to be about 2,000 years old

rather than 12,000 years old so what's going on here are they affect much older our sites you know not being dated correctly is carbon-date and faulty there's a big issue about that going on at the moment and it does suggest that you know it's

an incredible coincidence if it's not something else and so you know you have to kind of look at this this I just love that name the site if everyone wants to check this out there's a cycle sillustani timba also you have pukara even to a knuckle puma punku-- have some elements

of this this was a cheer upper as well and and some of the sights in the in the later Inca times even have similar designs well as may have been influenced by the earlier sites around Lake Titicaca however there is a strange discovery that was made that may link

the Middle East's with Peru and Bolivia and this is called the Fuente Magna Bowl this was found back in the 1950s around the shores of Lake Titicaca and it's this big sandstone bowl maybe three or four feet across it's on display at the Gold Museum in La Paz Bolivia and that

has Sumerian and proto-sumerian script you know carved on this which is obviously being around near Tiahuanaco and Pumapunku for thousands of years so and it dates to a time of around two thousand seven hundred to two thousand nine hundred I think BC and so this is

really intriguing so whatever date you know even if the dates are don't match up we compact MPV proves there may be a connection between the Middle East area gobekli tepe area and South America if that's the case and that is a major piece of news but everyone claims it's a

hoax even though I've looked into I've spoken to the people whose know the family who discovered it I've got friends out there and they say no it wasn't a hoax it's been in the family since the 50s if it was a hoax why is no one profiting from this why is no one

you know writing about this it seems like a genuine find and so you got things like this going on there completely ignored yeah it's it's like the the Banksy of ancient times you know just leaving something there for you to figure out it's it's so amazing and I've

been sort of teasing this you know as through this interview but you and your book the one that we're supposed to be talking about today Giants on record I mean this we talked about this in the pre-show but you said that this was the book that you got the most pushback from

in the mainstream so you know wow how can we kind of get an idea of why where do these beans come from were they Giants it what kind of evidence did you find to lead you to this conclusion or theory yes the book Giants on record I almost credit my couple that Jim Vieira right

here because he's we're very hard with me over the years on on some of our books and I mean a quick outline for people that I don't know about it is circle Giants or records Giants on regular American America's hidden history secrets in the mounds and the

Smithsonian files and it looks at over a thousand accounts of giant skeletons between seven foot and 18 feet tall discovered in the historical record in North America including academic journals and the Smithsonian's owned files and mainly in the mound culture

sites really going back a few thousand years and so this really was a fascinating subject because I'd kept in britain bran from i kept finding all these giant legends and giant bones discovered near megalithic sites and so i was getting very interested in the

megalithic sites in new england the new york state up in america there's many dolmens and megalithic chambers and other such structures standing stones even stone circles up there and then when I met Jim back I think at 2011 we kind of stumbled across the fact that

there are many actual reports of giant bones and skeletons and skulls even with double rows of teeth and things like this and we found so many accounts and there's a guy called Ross Hamilton's brilliant authors I mentor we called him the Godfather of giant ology and he is a

remarkable guy and so we started we thought well let's do a book about it he did Jim has done a ton of research we did this blog for years I've got you know I've been writing books for some time and we started to put our heads together and put this book out whilst we

were doing that we've got an offer to do a TV show called search for the lost Giants on the History Channel so they kind of coincided the book of the TV show and we only we got attacked when they both came out really really heavily attacked because we were claiming that

they were a race of giants in North America going back thousands of years up until a few hundred years ago but we had the evidence from the academic journals so we were being attacked by academics but it was from their universities that they dug up the bones and

pointed and measured them and so the Smithsonian is the main culprit of disappearing most of these bones but but also you have NAGPRA the Native American graves protection and repatriation act which came out in 1990 and that removed all the rest of the burial goods of

bones for public display but we have too much evidence to ignore you know reports photographs evidence they're on display and so on and so forth and so you know we now you know we kind of jumped into that like five years ago now we're doing

actually a book about the British giants and we will even more even more information it's mind-blowing and there's really good evidence that there were these giants living in ancient times and there's been a massive global cover-up it sounds crazy it sounds like

something some you know obscure bizarre TV program or something like this but actually it's not there's actually you know when this book comes out about Britain people are going to see what we've been doing it and what's actually there in the record if you know where to

look and so yes this is really trigger and then you have all these stories and legends everywhere talk about giants building certain megalithic sites and pyramids and other such things and almost every single place you research you find evidence in the area of actual

bones being found in very specific burials almost like they were meant to be found to say hey here's us we were doing it and these were the guys who may have come from the Bible lands area originally because it's even in the Old Testament in the Book of Enoch there's a

book of giants as well going back to the Dead Sea Scrolls they matter-of-factly talk about giants existing there and then as well and so there's a lot more to this than meets the eye and there's a connection now with these megalithic sites because people have asked over and

well how and after you move you know 80 ton stones well you get you get you employ the giants to come and do it because I can manage it a lot better than us tiny human beings can and a sounds obscure it sounds a bit out there but it's just a

chapter of human history that's been forgotten erased erased yes and I think this is something that makes you want to research even more yeah I mean wow there's so much there and you know it's really tremendous do you think do you think you that these giants were at

the apex of the species that that we don't know about I mean or were they like mid-level kind of go do the grunt work for us well I think is a bit of both actually I mean they're if you I mean I'm very been researching the early biblical texts and other such things and

the book of giants that were found within the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Book of Enoch and that they're really they're the best or some of the only really written evidence of what they were doing back then and there are you know if you look at those and you know you can start

applying that to reality rather than it all being fiction there's summary this is there's so many bits of reality little snippets that get popped out over the decades over the centuries that confirm certain things that occurred in these old texts and some of them

relating to the Giants we're now bones have been found sites have been found that correspond to what's been written in these early texts and you really have to you know you really have to question you know what what on earth is going on and why is this covered up so much it's

just one of these you know it's just one of the crazy things you have to kind of keep looking at and you get more answers as you dig through but there are accounts of giants like the early waves of the so-called Anunnaki Watchers that came down and landed on Mount Hermon and

they spread out and eventually they mated with human women who were a different race really that's the way they described it and they gave birth to what called the Nephilim which was these monstrous giants who were more like they're like you said they were like the

work of giants they were like the others but the ones before that day uncle Grigory or the watches they were very intelligent and these were the ones who were working with the geometry the astronomy the earth energy is the mathematics all the the invisible things

we were talking about earlier and so there's a spread of this you know it's interesting that all this is happening potentially where Quebec lis Tempe may have been and so there may be a connection even with gobekli tepe with these biblical Giants in the spread

of this knowledge around the world Wow I mean it's it's tremendous the the scale of the cover-up that had to take place to systematically erase you know I kind of line by line in our history I mean we should be privy to this knowledge and it's part of who we are right so what

would be the reason why why cover it up well what I think is I think is an old one really I mean it's a different cultures of different reasons for I think but if you if you look like we've done you can find it it's all there it's just not public it's just not you know

fully on the internet it's in obscure books old texts you know town histories and things like this these aren't available really I mean the problem is actually in academic journals that are published we have copies of them from the Smithsonian for instance so it's all

there it's just a case of looking and kind of digging out and putting it in a format that people can read and understand so you know part of it isn't really covered up it's just been forgotten about because there's not really only Giants still existing as

such and so we just don't believe we see all this fairy tales and other such things but there is a there was most definitely reality to this I mean in there in the Giants of record book we could be going to detail we do a whole chapter called the Smithsonian files and

we investigate the whole timeline of cover-up who did it when it happened now it's a pretty compelling story you know it's a real kind of you know page-turner when you get into it you really you know we really went deep into the records secret letters going on between the

heads of the Smithsonian and other such things and so there were agendas that play back then like we have at that time the mid eighteen mid to late 1800s the worthy genders and evolution taking place and Smithsonian with champion in that so the fact you know and there was

manifest destiny when the whole white man must remove the Native Americans take over their land I was trying to try to claim they were savages which is ridiculous and they were so there were these racist kind of agendas in with the mix with evolution so when you keep

finding 10-foot skeletons with 36 scum inches circumference skull and other such things it doesn't fit with these theories you know suddenly there's he's a really elaborate geometric mound burial sites going on for miles they're not savages they were clearly advanced

human beings who were extremely powerful very tall and they were like major shamanic rulers of North America and that didn't fit with what the white man wanted so they had to kind of brush that under the carpet bringing their agendas stamp it out and

so even though there are 17 accounts of between seven and eight for skeletons in the Smithsonian's own official annual reports from the late 1800s they then claimed in 1930 of 36 perhaps they're the head of the Smithsonian at the time that Giants are no more they never

existed or mistakes but then you actually look at their own books and they're in there and so they said this is so this most you know we've got blatant proof that they're discrediting their own research and there must there must be in there for a cover-up that's

just America yeah I mean it's it's it's really tremendous I I think there's so much to be uncovered when you start to go down this rabbit hole me just yeah you said you know you get answers but I feel like it's just more questions you know you just end up with more questions

than answers and it's and you know you just keep kind of uncovering more and more you mentioned the Annunaki and I'm fascinated by this subject do you think have you ever I've ever thought that maybe I mean since they're all of this corresponds astrologically with so

much as astronomically I mean could it be that these huge structures were linking up somewhere off planet like Mars maybe other parts of the solar system have you ever looked at that I've looked at that so much personally but I'm aware of that is a theory I know

even Graham Hancock wrote a book called the Mars mystery some years ago so he was convinced at the time that they were structured on Mars that kind of correspondent with those on earth and so yeah that is intriguing I mean obviously I'm involved in that History Channel's

ancient aliens some people do ask me these kind of questions but it's not something I would you know I don't know if they directly you know if these so-called structures found on Moon and Mars are actually influenced by the earth or the other way around but there are anomalies

there when in my earth grids book I do look at some strange geometric anomalies on planets that appear to be structures even though they could well be natural forms that you know the planetary size objects would form into now CERN 3d geometries Archimedean and platonic

solids and so forth but but you know I think this you know I'm certainly open to the idea that made there may be a reality to this yeah I mean who who was the guy in Coral Castle Edie something it had lead something and I mean he was moving her he's like the skinny guy and

he's moving around these massive you know structures that that way you know multiple tons and I think I think of I remember my reading correctly he just said oh well you know I just discovered this the secrets that the Egyptians were using and I applied the same thing and I

was able to do this any theories about you know what Gus yeah I mean Edward is counting I mean that is this a five-foot Latvian guy he's very slight it wasn't very big or anything and he somehow built this 900 tons of limestone quarried from the the beach area of

Miami and then moved cut and constructed some of the stones wearing like 80 tons in a revolving door which was 75 tons or something a perfectly poised balance that a child could open with their finger and I've been here myself I went there a few years ago and it's

absolutely amazing here no electricity no power tools no cranes or JCB's anything like this this was entirely one man no one saw him work he only worked at night and somehow he leave he was utilizing magnetic power and either he was incredibly powerful sonic leaping

like a Teleca telekinetic you know removing stones with the mind or he somehow mastered just this very subtle kind of technique that has been completely forgotten and I believe is something to do with acoustics magnetism and balance so it's

like finding the balance point of something makes it completely lose its weight I think these were aspect hey she wrote a book that I picked out while I was there about electric and my lectricity and magnetism how that could have been used to actually possibly

construct the site even though it didn't give it away even in his book it's really scratch makes you scratch your head I mean here's this guy moving around all these massive rocks he says you know he just kind of figured it out and you know we still can't kind of get

to the bottom of you know how he did it and we just have no idea you know so I don't know what it could be I mean but you know just going back to the the scale of all of this and the the network that's established and do you think you said that you went down into the the

chamber at the at the lowest point you know you know what could you what is your you know idea of why they were building these structures why even you know do this in the first place that's the big question I mean I said I think there's different answers for this

run through a couple of three ideas for you I mean one of them I believe was they were like an energy generator this sounds strange but there are scientists and engineers just at the Great Pyramid for instance who absolutely convinced these were major energy generators they

were harnessing natural energies from the earth cosmic energy they were actually built on fault zones so you have seismic kind of energy coming up and being utilized and then being sent out from these structures along the alignments and also along the earth

energy currents along the natural telluric currents as well and this is part of the enchantment of the landscape theory as well and I think the same principles are at place in other sites around the world on a much smaller scale we have dolmens these are like table

megaliths that kind of translate set and these are like two or three stones uprights with table top big slab on top and these are all over the world every country on the planet virtually has these particular quite simple structures often huge

styling to me there's one in New York State North Salem called balance rock which is actually a major Dolman where she filmed with ancient aliens episode there recently and there's the thing about them on a much smaller scale than the pyramids

obviously they've been tested they're often built on magnetic anomalies natural geological magnetic anomalies and if you place seeds or grains in them it charges them up in a certain way where it kind of increases if you're gonna plant these things increases their

yield the strength and the size of the crops so these were fertility generators and so just that alone is a good enough reason to utilize these sites but when you come to things like Stonehenge you come to things like the pyramids but you picture major sites like these they're

not only displaying showing off their artistic and architectural prowess they're also encoding information for that time permanently that's why they build with such large stones so it can't be budged it can't be destroyed and they're encoding I believe information

and not but not just information as we know it actual kind of almost like projections of information go into the crystalline structure like like a computer you know like you know you know almost intended to manifest it into the stone so there's aspects of that going

on but and also their repositories of knowledge if you look at it from another perspective and so they're showing in advanced mathematical skills navigation skills of them some of them at the way they're oriented is extremely accurate north south east and west they're

showing mathematics geometry astronomical alignments they're utilizing the earth energies and so they're saying look this is where we were at when we build these and this is where you should be at and the you should maintain this so like the

pyramids for instance even humanity goes through many many thousands of years of you know going into like dark periods dark ages then coming back out into more enlightened eras they're still there and they're always gonna have that knowledge whether the people know it or

not and in this current here and we're just starting to understand what is actually these sites are really about and the the level of the people to build them incidentally where our ancestors and so they were doing us a favor you know by kind of creating these sites and

saying hey this is how we did it and you can still do it that way now you know if the push comes to shove and there's a apocalyptic kind of scenarios the clues there how to survive because you're going to survive because you can enhance seeds or grains you can create energy

with these sites if you know how and there's like a system in place it could have even been an ancient internet encoded within the crystalline structure of these sites with all the ley line you know who knows we don't know I mean how's anybody in the future 2,000 years

gonna understand our internet if they don't have it you know it's you know little things like this we you know it's just a mindset about what they were doing back then but I believe they develop their psychic and telepathic and telekinetic skills to an extremely high

level they also have phenomenal memory techniques as well and the Druids Britain for instance who could record things entire volumes and speak them out you know as well and so there's many different aspects but I think the ones I've just mentioned are the key key key

points that that I kind of look at when I'm looking and researching these sites I mean it seems like you know these beings were up on information that we aren't even understand we haven't even gotten a chance to look at yet and we're just starting to decode and you know I'm

curious that you said that you got a chance to look at some of these sites with some some scientific instruments what were your readings what did you come up with well we're just using a basic magnetometer okay so I feel try field magnetometer they used also by

paranormal researchers and ghost hunters and things like this because it measures very very subtle fluctuations in the magnetic field the electric field radiation and other such things and if you you know you can utilize them correctly you can get

interesting results for instance at balance rock which is the the massive Dolman Inn in New York State we were I was there just a few months ago with David Childress we're doing ancient aliens show and I've took it with me hoping you know we get some result and

we got remarkable fluctuations because I know I know it's not a magnetic anomaly and so these things work and they pick things up so you can detect magnetic anomalies you can detect fluctuations in the magnetic field and the field liens the energy lines move through sites and

John Burke and catch Hallberg who wrote the book seed of knowledge stone of Plenty was published in 2005 did thousands of tests at hundreds of sites around the world using high-level very expensive equipment and did it all very scientifically and recorded the data

tested the seeds of grains after they've been charged and and that they proved it once and for all what you know douses and GMS have been saying for hundreds of years that indeed these sites do are designed to you know produce energy and to like you know use the natural energy

features around there to produce more of it and so and they they they basically worked out this new luck that this science there have been lost for thousands of years and i think you know some of these things sighs clearly still function even today and so this if you

can if you can not charge up grains and seeds and affect the fertility of the landscape you don't need GM crops anymore you don't need anything you just need to utilize these big stones and the structures that are all around us that were probably built for that purpose in

the first place yeah I mean it seems like the ruling class or the elite you know back in prehistoric times were some sort of superhuman I mean they you know super telekinetic and you know using this psychic energy to who knows you know maybe communicate from one part of

the earth to another but you know what happened to them there's there's different flood myths but you know Graham talks about how they get to a certain point of technological advancement and then there's a massive flood I mean we hear legends about Atlantis what what

are your theories about what happened to some of these civilizations that's a good point yeah and it's certainly the case that yeah you're gonna get cataclysms there's many of these there's an oak Graham and others have talked about the Younger Dryas impact event the

effect that had that was a good long time ago out what eleven twelve thousand years ago but there are other cataclysms that have happened we know ones that have occurred and affected Britain there's been flooding when doggerland which was their landmass that connected

England with Europe kind of went under and around around six or seven thousand years ago there's also invasions as well I mean England specifically has been invaded Britain especially so many times around 2,400 or so BC we had the beaker people there called coming in from the

Iberian Peninsula through Europe and they were a powerful kind of strongly built race who came in and kind of took over from the more milder Neolithic people and my shorter and Slater here in Britain and they were responsible for kind of eradicate in their culture

pretty much you know whether it was through violence and warfare or whether it's just through assimilation we don't know really it's very hard to tell but there are movements there are migrations and coaches are more powerful than others most certainly will take over but

there are there are strong chunks of evidence for major cataclysms happening throughout this Oracle and prehistoric periods in the Younger Dryas obviously but you've got other ones that may have happened in theory the Mediterranean the island of Greece an alkyl Santorini

which happened in a few thousand years ago we've had other sea level changes throughout Europe and the world which have submerged and revealed islands and land masses that would have caused general flooding as well you've got asteroids hitting you've got a cataclysm

even around Lake Titicaca in Bolivia and Peru where it looks like some of the sites there like - we're not gonna prove a poker being bludgeoned by a tidal wave coming off the lake and so you get very strange anomalies like this all over the world and so you know

there's always these changes taking place one way or another it's really interesting I mean what was was the American Genesis theory that you had well that's the book by Jeffrey Goodman he wrote that back in the 1980s and I thoroughly agree he was an archaeologist

he compiled all the data really for this book and he was just in there the genesis of humans going back you know hundreds of thousands of years was actually North America it wasn't Africa or any other places it was that's where that's where it all

happened and you know if you look you know if you start looking into that now there's a new theory not relative in a few years old their speciation or growth you know humanity around the world didn't just happen in one place it happens simultaneously in different

parts of the world like hundreds of thousands of years ago perhaps even millions North America was one of these so his theories have now been corroborated by new science really you know this isn't well known information we feature in our Giants on record but

we do a whole section on there and the final chapter when we look at that theory because you have all these stories these Native American creation myths and stories that talk about this time when this actually happened where humans kind of manifested from spirit

into matter in North America and in other places and and that may be the reality even even though if you read the original kind of Book of Enoch in the early you know books of the Bible the same principles applied these beings still come down spaceships exactly

they're more described as just emerging slowly from the ether into these mountaintops then coming down integrating with society and building societies with their knowledge that they had from this otherworldly place always almost like the fairy realm the

elemental realm almost like merging between these different worlds and so there could be you know an aspect of that and I think with America Genesis for instance he found in gained a bit more academic scientific aspect that indeed he found human type

skulls that were like cro-magnon man which is like European technically and they the so-called cro-magnon has appeared in Europe 44,000 years ago and no one knows where they came from however he found skulls and skeletons and artifacts that were cro-magnon but

they will up to seventy thousand years old and so he suggests actually they came from America the Europeans originally came from America so this is this isn't to me this is a fascinating theory and there's evidence is emerging that kind of backs this up and is

looking at things and from a whole different perspective it's amazing I mean I'd love to ask you about this it was is there anything in your research that involves the usage of psychedelics and these beings the use of these people I think it was a cultural thing and it

was accepted in all societies around the world if these psychedelics were available you know I think there was it was seen as a sacrament it was seen as like a magical food it wasn't seen as a drug it wasn't like termed illegal there were probably

children eating mushrooms with their dinner you know regularly and you know you just imagine you know you foraging for your mushrooms and coming back your feed your whole family thinking they're just mushrooms and next thing they were all completely tripping out for six

hours and so you know that they were part of our culture they grow everywhere all these different things do and I believe that was where much of the inspiration probably came from you know to build their coming up with the mathematical formalism ideas and

inspirations and you know ways to kind of enhance the brain chemistry you know and even these sites you know the energy we're talking about would enhance the brain you know so there's a mixture of working with these natural natural kind of psychedelics as sacraments and also

they would maintain this kind of you know a Charmin into their brain chemistry through the placement of these sites and construction techniques to enhance to project it from these sites not just across the landscape but into as well and so there's these multiple

different aspects and one other thing that the ancients would do were you see something that fascinates me and I've read a lot about this is they would they were ingesting something a white pound of gold or monatomic oh yeah and this is most certainly a reality when you start

looking into it the work of Lawrence Garden that really opened this up and me some of his sombras books from the 90s and and so you know this obsession with gold in ancient times may also be because they were trying to create this powder our chemical form which actually

would enhance themselves you know make them live longer enhance their DNA and healing properties consciousness expansion properties so that mixed with the sacraments and the Harmony being produced through their actual configuration of sacred sites and earth

energies and telluric currents and so forth would create quite a remarkable what I believe then was called the Golden Age you know where people were living in this harmonic reality which is something we should adhere to getting back to do you think yeah we've got

about eight minutes so I'd like to you know start to wrap this up soon but I mean do you think that where we are currently in current times could be linking up to I don't I don't know you know like maybe a changing of the guard maybe one of these cataclysms is around

the corner you know maybe even the the coronavirus you know is is one of those things does it relate it could be I mean who knows if there weren't viruses like this in ancient times you know wiping out you know complete civilizations it could be the case I mean there was I

think there might be something coming I think people can feel that kind of brewing that people were just a little bit tired of all this kind of nonsense it's all right it's all very good to me you know you just watch V for Vendetta and you get a sense of everything that's

being projected onto us from the media and it's just tight it's just tiresome people are just bored of it they want to just stop this rubbish you know there's enough to go around we can all work together we can like all do you know pretty much what we want you know we

don't to have the stress and control and terror everywhere we can have a different reality and I think that you know if you look into the reality and the cultures of these ancient people that they were living in a different reality to us they

had this harmonious for not all the time but they had times eras where they got to this point of like a perfect kind of society my slab or Plato dry about and so forth where there's like this idyllic kind of Atlantean ideal where everything's in

harmony and there's all these structures and governments and democracies that can have things in a certain way where everyone wins and why can't we just go back to them or platonic you know way of kind of dressing these because obviously those that are apparent looking out for

a highest good well sure thank you we've covered so much is there anything that I should have asked you that I that I didn't know I think the thing you've covered quite cover quite yeah ground there to be honest with you they would go into different things but I do you

know I just want to recommend to people I mean obviously at the moment you can't really go out much but is to just try and visit when you can try and visit these sacred sites these ancient sites whatever you are in the world even in North America this tens hundreds of

thousands mound sites Native American mound sites you can just go and visit and it just looks like a mound like a mound of Earth or it just looks like one standing stone you'll find in Europe somewhere actually each of these sites may be significant you know I think they

all are and a part of this network and so they're probably designed by these ancient kind of you know priestly astronomer elite whatever you want to call them so I would imagine they've got something there for you to experience you know one way or another so I just

recommend that and also remember these sites were built by your ancestors they built by picking your relations your family line built some of these if you've been in one place you know one area one county or country you know several generations multiple generations

they may have been you know there might even be legends to talk about this what this was actually used for is there's all these healing properties with these sites that every millennium vocal or and yeah I just recommend that that's one of the things you know I kind

of kind of trying share as much as possible and I'm gonna take you know individuals groups out to these sites when we did when we do our expeditions and tools you this flew by so much fun so much information where can people go to you can find your work I know there's

a YouTube channel that you run as well how can people go and buy the book oh sure yeah I mean basically the book I just mentioned the books as well called earth grids it's why I called stone circles these are both wooden books they're small books but very packed with

information and they're everywhere online obviously also we did this book called I co-authored megalith studies in stone which as my stone circles look at multiple other books within it which again is published by would've books also Giants on record is available

through Amazon and stores and so forth and people yeah I mean the YouTube channel is actually one of our primary places got to make a huge amount of videos I'm a video producer filming will of travels to obscure places around the world and we've got 800 videos up there

people can watch we also have all our conferences up on there as well so people want to sit back and whilst you stay in for the next few weeks you can actually just watch multiple conferences that we filmed that we organized as well mega little mania and Glastonbury and

also origins conference we organized in the London and and that's megalith of mania UK that's just all up on YouTube and the web site is just megalith amania koto UK that people can contact me through that perfect as you heard it here folks I mean wow what an amazing

interview my guest Hugh Newman one of his books is called Giants on record which he co-authored with Jim Vieira you can go find his YouTube Hewes YouTube channel and there's a bunch of information on there if you find this interesting I mean there's something lot

more them I'm not sure we cover it in death enough I think you guys will really love it I highly recommend the book thank you guys so much for tuning in we'll be back for sure next week good night