Episode 22 – Aurianna Joy

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human experience is in session my co-host dr. G is your guest tonight is the holistic explorer Arianna joy Arianna welcome to hxp thank you for having me I’m honored to be here so you have a highly intriguing story I know that you suffered with chronic pain for a long time as a child you were diagnosed with Lyme disease you realized that Western medicine couldn’t really help you so let’s get into that let’s share your story yeah it’s it’s been

quite a journey to say the least so I am almost 20 50 I’ll be 25 next month and when I was about 13 my parents kind of started realizing that there was something a little off about me and in terms of my health I’d always kind of been a sickly child not very strong didn’t have a lot of vitality got a lot of random you know ear infections sinus infections just weak immune system overall they’re very like lethargic tired a lot i would get headaches and

then around 12 or 13 things just really started to get worse and i started having really bad digestive issues and around the time my period came on problems with that and around that time i started having really severe muscle pain to like just all over my body my body would just be in pain constantly and it was painful to do anything for too long of a period of time if i was laying down for too long it would hurt if I was standing sitting walking you

name it it was very painful just to be in my body and so my mom is my biggest advocate and it might you know such an angel to me and that she started looking for answers for me and she started with the conventional Western medicine route which is what she was taught and so we started by going to our family practitioner and you know they just thought I was depressed and put me on antidepressants and then over the course of the next two years or so

we visited a number of different specialists and nobody really had any answers it was always just kind of like whatever field of specialty they were in like yeah my symptoms kind of match to that so that yeah okay you know go to the rheumatologist and yeah you have rheumatoid arthritis or lupus or early stage ms or it’s all in my head and I’m just making it up looking for attention just go see a psychiatrist and it got um a little you know it kind of broke me

down I just going through all of that and I started to question myself like am I am I crazy am I just making it up i don’t i don’t know and and then when i was 16 through a series of fortunate events i was brought to an acupuncturist who is what the one who diagnosed me diagnosed me with lyme disease and based on my symptoms and where I had lived and everything just lined up to I was about five years old when I contracted it is

what this acupuncturist told me and I had thought that having a diagnosis was gonna be the answer you know just give me a diagnosis and I’ll take a pill and I’ll be fine because that’s was the the world view that I grew up with around medicine and healing was you know trust trust your doctor and they know and and they’ll just give you pharmaceutical and you’ll be fine tomorrow right and the little did I know that Lyme disease is

one of the most controversial diseases out there today and there hasn’t been a lot of research done on it and what research has been done is very controversial and what the doctors say and what the patients say is oftentimes not in the line and so from 16 up until about 21 I went back and forth with the number of different doctors again just trying to get an even official diagnosis from a medical doctor because the test that the

acupuncturist had run didn’t weren’t FDA approved and so the medical doctors wouldn’t even look at the paperwork and so that was a whole experience in and of itself and I can remember I was about 18 and I had met a doctor he was actually a do so he was a little bit more holistic and he looked at the blood tests and everything and he was the first medical doctor to say yes I do believe that you have Lyme disease and again he didn’t

have any answers he actually told me that the FDA approved protocol for Lyme disease which is a course of antibiotic treatment would actually harm my body more than it would do me good and that he didn’t recommend it from there he didn’t have any answers he was like well you know just take some vitamins you know get a lot of rest manage your symptoms and he basically told me to go live my life while I can and enjoy it while I can because there was no way to

tell how quickly it would progress or how far it would go because Lyme disease affects every body differently it can manifest in any organ system it can go from you know minor aches and pains to extreme paralysis and organ failure so it was kind of just you know hands up in the air like go do what you can and and that’s it and I kind of SAT with that for a while and I rolled down into a pretty deep depression for a while and then I was actually a student at the

University of Florida and this was in 2011 and I started to have problems with my kidneys and I was going to kidney specialist I was traveling all around the state to try and find answers and it again I was just hitting road block after road block and what I see now is that that those road blocks were actually one of my greatest gifts because I was being read to did in a direction that would allow me to truly heal not just put a bandaid on

it like most of the doctors were wanting to do so again I was led to an acupuncturist who lived in Gainesville Florida and he introduced me to to Eastern medicine Eastern medicine and the idea of energy in the body and about the the cause of disease not just the symptoms but the to go a little deeper into it and he really I worked with him for about a year and when I was working with him I really started to open up my mind just started to open to the

realization that what I had been taught was not the truth there was some truth to it it’s not that Western medicine is evil and it has its place you know in accidents and surgeries and things like that I’m extremely grateful for it god forbid I ever am in that situation myself I really hope that there’s a doctor there to help me through it and when it comes to more of these chronic illnesses and things that especially things that Western medicine can’t fix

or heal that there’s an innate power within us that we can tap into and that we can heal ourselves way how did you how did you get to that breakthrough where you realized that ok Western medicine is no longer helping me I’m gonna try these other things and thank you I think you spent some time in the jungle right with a shaman I did yeah so the journey from there just opened up in that moment there was a very specific moment one one evening when I was

sitting in my car and you know just the world felt like it was crashing and around me one of the doctors I told me that I was potentially going into kidney failure again they didn’t really know what to do and I just surrendered I just let go and I just said whatever is out there God the universe I don’t know what you are but if you are out there I need help because I have done everything in my power that I know of to help myself and I don’t know what to do

from here so I need help is what I asked for and from there the doors just started opening I mean I was led to that acupuncturist and then I ended up living in Europe for 13 months where I worked with the one of the leading lime specialists in the Netherlands and I worked with a number of other healing practitioners alternative healing practitioners to really bring my body back into balance and it was a very intense year six months of that was a

very very intense herbal protocol where I was basically on the couch for six months felt like I was dying but it was part of the process you know that junk all of those toxins were moving out of me and it got to a point where one of the therapist told me she said you know I I think that your body is doing really well all of these things that you’re doing is really helping but it’s almost as though your mind doesn’t know how to

be healthy because I’d been sick for so long basically my entire life I’d been sick and my mentality was that of a sick person the only way that I knew how to be in the world was as someone who had an illness and so she said you know I had kind of already started looking into spirituality in the idea you know I started meditating already but it was kind of like a a side thing it wasn’t really my focus so when she said that I started to really put my awareness in

that like okay there’s something deeper that I need to go into and I need I you know again I just asked for guidance I said what is it what’s next and it’s just funny how it worked literally the day after so I sat down in meditation one night and I said all right I have a feeling that my time in Europe is coming to a close I know that my body is doing really well what’s next and the next day a friend sent me a link to a retreat

center in Peru which it was an ayahuasca healing retreat center and as soon as I read over the website I just knew oh there’s just this inner knowing that no matter what else was going on in the world no matter all the reasons why I shouldn’t go to Peru IE not having the money you know all these different reasons why logically it didn’t make sense for me to go to Peru I knew that I needed to go to the jungle that this was an answer for me it was the next step so

far guys you quick quick question so so before when you had the like the medical issues how did they know it was Lyme disease because you know there’s like chronic Lyme disease did you have like the did you have the the rash like the the textbook rash they had two day check for the bacteria how’d they do what was the process there yes so I don’t ever remember having a rash because I was so young and which is common I think like

twenty-five percent of patients actually don’t get the rash exactly yeah you know estimates are always different 5220 you know twenty-five to fifty percent of people don’t get the rash and then from there the the bacteria so lyme disease is a bacterial infection and oftentimes the bacteria will come along with different co-infections viruses most people with lyme disease have candida all of these different things that can wreak havoc in the body and but it can

lie dormant for a while so it’s just the similar to people with like HIV you can have the virus in your body but it could be there for years before it actually manifests and you start having symptoms and so I think that’s kind of what happened with me is that I started having some symptoms my immune system was a little weakened but it wasn’t until I was a teenager and I had a fairly traumatic emotional experience being in an abusive relationship at a

young age when I was 13 that really triggered this in me so to answer your question I did test positive on some of the test bad that the FDA approves but not all of them there’s different markers and things that they read and then the tests that the acupuncturist the original acupuncturist had had me do was basically scanning my blood for the bacteria and that was the one that showed up positive but that test was not approved by the FDA weird

disease because I mean a lot of the blood tests show up especially early in the disease process i’m pretty sure they should have negative from what i remember my uncle had Lyme disease also and he was in a heavily like deer tick populated area in Georgia but it’s just such an odd disease you know that the chronic levels versus you’re just cute Lee getting it yeah it’s and it’s hard to diagnose too because it does affect everybody differently and you know some

people say that oh it doesn’t exist in these states like when I got diagnosed I was living in Florida and I kept being told well we don’t have Lyme disease in Florida and I didn’t grow up in florida i grew up in the pacific northwest in washington and oregon where lyme disease is very prevalent i lived in the middle like of a national forest basically for ten years and so yeah it is a very interesting disease and how it manifests

in the acute and the chronic and the whole political side of it is a whole nother story too hmm so it sounds like you’re going through this process of breaking down over and over and over and then you get this call to go into the jungle which you decide to do and described to us let’s paint a picture of what it feels like to work with a shaman for was it was it six months was that how long you were there yeah I was there for almost six months so I had

originally planned to go to a healing center for one month and my intuition at this point had become pretty strong and I knew that I wasn’t supposed to make any plans for afterwards I just figured you know I’ll go travel Peru kind of do maybe like an Eat Pray Love sort of experience and so I just booked one month at the healing center and then I just left it open after that and um in my first ayahuasca ceremony ayahuasca this sacred plant medicine basically

told me that I was to stay at this healing center and I was told who to talk to i was told that i was going to be there that this was part of my life work was working with ayahuasca and so i ended up staying there for almost six months and let’s see paint a picture it’s a it’s a very kind of out-of-this-world experience in terms of the average Westerners experience of life I mean you’re the healing center where I was at it was two and a half hours give or take

from the nearest city which is one of the most isolated cities in the world in the middle of the Amazon jungle it was like a 24-hour trip to get there you’re just surrounded by these sounds and and smells and feelings that are kind of foreign you know all the animals and the insects and where’d you end up going which Center the Temple of the way of light okay is that that you’re the one in the mountain or the there’s like that

suppose as the two options I nope this one only has one it’s in the jungle yeah all right so you were the ketose yeah outside of you keep those a couple hours outside of me Cheetos yeah hmm so what was your takeaway from the jungle wow that’s a big question wow so many takeaways I mean spending six months I did 22 ayahuasca ceremonies while i was in peru and i worked with a number of other plants doing what’s called plant diatas and a lot of what I was doing was

clearing my past learning about my childhood and kind of seeing it from a different perspective and learning about Lyme disease and the illness and the influence that it had had on me and and also you know if I had to say what was one of the biggest things that I took away from that experience now being a year and a half later had you asked me this question coming out of the jungle immediately it might have been a different answer but I’ve been back in

the United States for over a year now it’s been over a year and a half since I started working with ayahuasca and one of the biggest things that I’ve learned is my own potential and I ayahuasca brought me to both extremes to the darkest parts of myself and also to the brightest you know lightest most imp our highest potential part of myself and who I can be in the world and so what do I use on my you know day to day life now that I learned from ayahuasca is that I

can basically do whatever I want and I am in control of my life and that you know we all are it’s not just me I’m not just special you know we all have this capacity to to co-create and to two step more fully into who we are when we let go of all the stuff that the world has put on us when we let go of who we were told to be or who we were told we should be and when we just step into who we are and just show up in the world that way I

mean magic happens can you kind of talk about because everyone pretty much has a everyone I’ve known has a very interesting how they first did ayahuasca story what was this call like what was what’s your story how did it come in like seep into your life so to speak um well so I synchronistic alee just ended up in Europe um and I met a girl in Spain and I met her in Portugal but we were in Spain together traveling together and she introduced me to I

owasco at least the idea that she told me that it was one of the biggest blessings at life had ever given her that it had healed her a lot and I thought it was fascinating and I looked into it a little bit and it was kind of one of those things because at this point I was really doing a lot of research on healing and stuff and a lot of stuff was coming into my awareness and it was kind of I just put it on the back shelf with something that I would

like to try one day it wasn’t in my immediate vicinity it wasn’t something that I could try right then and there so I was like all right one day that’s something I would be interested in doing and then about six months later six seven eight months later um this guy sends me that message on facebook and he just said you know I know you’re into healing and you should really need to check this place out I’ve been here twice really awesome stuff happening and

then he told me a little bit about ayahuasca and he’s like if you feel the call like you’ll know that it’s for you if you don’t feel anything then just you know ignore it ignore the message and when I read it it was just like I call it like zinging in my body like there was just this intense tingling that I’ve come to know is kind of a message from my higher self but I’m in alignment with my path or you know with what is going to be the best thing

for me at that time and like I said I just knew that I needed to get to the jungle and despite not having any money to get there at the time i attracted that financial abundance into my life and I less than eight months later was in the jungle sitting down for my first ayahuasca ceremony hmm very interesting yeah so so then you’re back in the states and you decide are you still I mean just to rewind a bit are you still suffering from your Lyme disease

symptoms I mean do you still have that I do still have symptoms yes um one thing that I’m that I learned with ayahuasca is the the words that we use are very powerful so I choose not to look at it as suffering or even battling Lyme disease um honestly I don’t even necessarily think of myself as having Lyme disease anymore I don’t really that’s not a part of my identity is like oh that lime chick or you know like that patient with Lyme disease I I see it as

there is something in my body that is still out of alignment and so I do still have symptoms and I don’t see myself as suffering one of the things that the plants taught me was that illness and disease are messengers there you know we don’t have pain if something’s not wrong you put your hand on a stove you get pain because you know you take if you’re being told to take your hand off the stove so when I have a symptom that comes up I have learned to kind of go

into it you know we we tend to want to push pain away we want to put a bandaid on it or you know put some ice on it numb it and make it just go away and I’ve learned instead to actually go deeper into it too risky even the message that my body is trying to tell me right so it was the pasta meditation retreat did you do that after the ayahuasca I did yeah yeah let’s get into that how did that work that was um just something that had crossed again my

field of awareness a friend told me about it and when I first heard about vipassana I had no desire to do it unlike ayahuasca um I was like yeah 10 days silence no not me like I like to talk you know I I don’t think I can do that and then when I came back from Peru I’d met a ton of people in peru in six months at a healing center a lot of people were coming through and a bunch of them had done the passion is and they all had really great things to say about

it so i started thinking like you know maybe this is something that i can explore and it just kind of lined up that there was one on my birthday last year and my best friend and I went to it and that was a really a really powerful experience as well I mean just learning discipline in that way to not eat it’s not just silence it’s 11 hours of meditation a day it’s no reading no writing no music no eye contact with the people who are around you it’s a very

basic diet and it I learned a lot about where my maken goes into the one in Georgia I went to one in Wisconsin actually very cool mm-hmm was a 10-day standerton day one yep tending can you can you just tell people like I went to one of these before I don’t know how the food was there but it’s some of the best food I’ve ever had in my entire life is at these the pasta meditation retreats and it’s completely free like it I can’t

believe that they do this for free and they only accept money from people they can only accept donations from people that have done the course that’s the the only way to really handle donations i think from an organization they do it so well yeah yeah I didn’t have the food experience no I am a little bit of a fruity so just cheese the whole time human lot of cheese and a lot of credit and considering that I’m gluten intolerant and lactose intolerant that

wasn’t the most exciting thing for me but that wasn’t why I was there you know but I do think that the the whole mentality of being of service the way that they are you know they’re not like pay thousands of dollars to come have this experience and then if you don’t like it yeah too too bad sorry they are come have this experience and then whatever value you receive from it if you want to you know give back to financially support someone else to have

this experience then then that is how they they run and I just think that’s fascinating I think that’s a it’s a whole new way of you know of allow of having a healing center run because that’s basically what it is you know so there was students there was a sort of internal your I mean you’re you’re going into yourself and these in both of these ways I mean I you osku is a very internal kind of thing right and you’re processing all this information the

pasta kind of does the same thing in a complete different way so I mean where I mean where did you tow you you practice meditation now and how how do you think that’s helped you with the everyday kind of battle that you experience hmm meditation I found is one of the most powerful tools for navigating through this crazy wild world that we live in and I mean that’s why I do these retreats that’s why i isolate myself in the jungle i’m actually going back to

Peru this summer that’s why I do for passionate retreats or sometimes I’ll just turn off my phone and turn off my computer for the weekend or for a night or something to just kind of go into myself and what I found is that you know we have this innate knowing this kind of instinct about what’s best for us all animals do you know animals know what to eat when to sleep when to migrate and we have that too as humans and we also have the gift of a more expanded

elevated consciousness that we can bring to it and so it’s not just this kind of mindless moving in a direction because that’s what our instinct tells us to we also get to like learn lessons from it and there are so many gifts that come through following that kind of inner knowing and what I found is that this inner voice and you know we all kind of have our own opinion or perspective on what this inner voice is some call it just your instinct some call it inner

knowing or intuition or guidance or you know all of these different things is that whatever you choose to call it this thing knows something outside of what our limited human mind can see so when I go into meditation when I go into the jungle when I go turn off my phone and just be with myself it’s my way of connecting with this inner voice because there’s so much stimulation in our world there’s so much information coming in I

mean even if you don’t watch the news or I mean I I don’t watch the news I don’t listen to the radio I am very very selective about basically everything that comes into my experience and I feel like that helps me to be you know a better person in the world because of it and with all this stimulation we become numb to that voice we we don’t most people don’t even know it’s there you know they might get a gut feeling every once in a while but oftentimes they

ignore it and I’ve just learned that this inner voice knows exactly what I need to do each step of the way and I realize now I didn’t know it at the time but it’s what’s been guiding this entire healing process for me how do you think this current kind of cesspool landscape of culture that’s going on that you you know that you pretty much are checking out of is going to bear on your generation in the future I see us has having a really really big and beautiful

opportunity to make some rad change in the world and it doesn’t take a lot you know you don’t have to look very far to realize that our world is not doing very good we’re not doing very well as a species and I really do believe that we are being given the opportunity to create change in a way that’s more sustainable and more fulfilling to every person and all beings on this planet plants and animals and everything in you know I i do get

down on this the cesspool of our culture that we’ve created and sometimes I just look at the world and I’m like oh god it’s too much like there’s no way that we can do this like we can’t really change this you know but then I look around at some of the really beautiful things that are happening in the world I mean you know what even what you guys are creating here in your podcast I mean you know this is creating change you know for all the people who are

listening to you for all the people who are watching my videos were influencing in a may be subtler way then some people think this change needs to happen in a lot of people are very kind of more masculine energy go in and you know just create change right then and there and it’s I think that it’s going to be a little bit of a more subtle internal individual change and as each person begins to shift their own awareness a bit it’ll begin to create a ripple

effect that is going to change all of humanity is my belief you said something super interesting so you said that there’s some kind of energetic balance how do you see that kind of masculine feminine balance going on with an hour generation just in general right now in this society that you live in how would you how would you describe what’s going on i would say that we live in a very patriarchal male-dominated masculine energy society right now and the

masculine energy is not bad of itself I mean in order to have balance we have to have both right so to go to the extreme feminine side that wouldn’t be right either that wouldn’t be the best thing for all of us either but to bring ourselves kind of back to Center away from the more masculine which is very I mean just look at the American culture you know it’s instant gratification it’s quick fast easy cheap you know just go go go build build build

you know get bigger bigger bigger faster faster faster and that action that energy of action is completely necessary we need it and we also need the more feminine energy of of stillness and of intuition and of flowing and bringing those two into balance and dancing with the two like I said you know it’s going to be a more individual change I believe that it’s going to happen within ourselves just being able to witness those kind of two polarities within

ourselves and being able to dance with them and being able to know when to show one and when to show the other you know when but I call it the art of discernment of discerning when to use what energy or what aspect of our self is about another way to put it so Oriana how how do you think this is sustainable for you i mean is i mean i know that you have different tools that you use like meditation yoga and your diet is pretty specific I imagine so I mean to the

people who watch your videos and are learning from you and becoming part of your community I mean what are you offering them what are you giving them my overall message I guess and I do this through a number of different ways I make youtube videos i have a blog i am pretty active on social media and I also do spiritual life coaching and my overall kind of message I would say is to learn how to listen to the center voice and that you can trust

it and that you know they’re like you said that everything kind of plays into it it’s the the mindfulness techniques it’s our diet it’s our relationships it’s our career and passion it’s you know every different aspect of our self plays into this fulfillment and in to being our authentic selves this idea hit me when i was in peru of exploring your life unapologetically so basically the way that I see that is just showing up in the world as who you are and not

being sorry for it not having to apologize for wanting something or for not wanting something or for behaving in one way and not another way that someone else thinks you should and I think that we all have the ability to show up more fully as who we are through letting go of who were not and there’s so many different ways that we can begin to remove those blocks that are preventing us from being our authentic self and I like to use the metaphor of it’s like

peeling it’s like you’re a burn victim you know let’s say you got a third-degree burn on your arm and you have all this burnt charred skin on your arm and in order to allow the new skin to breathe you have to peel off that old skin you have to get rid of it and that is how healing happens and I feel through my journey and through all of the people that I’ve been working with and connecting with that this is a part of the process we have to be willing to

peel off that old stuff and let go of all of that old stuff that’s preventing us from breathing fully and sometimes that’s painful you know sometimes that isn’t pretty sometimes it’s really really hard so then what what led you to hit word on your YouTube camera and and kind of put yourself in the world to do what you’re doing right now I was actually contemplating that I was just meditating before we had this call and I was contemplating that about just this whole

journey and where it’s taken me and I can kind of see how this whole process I’ve been being prepared for this work that I’m doing right now and but originally at the time when i press that play button i had no idea i had no idea that this was going to be a part of my story i was just i was in peru and i was the morning after my first ayahuasca ceremony it was like 12 hours later and i really wanted to journal about my experience but I was kind of in this

state where I was not able to write at the time and I just decided to grab my phone and I went and sat on this trail and I just started recording this video of my experience and I had some friends and you know family who were interested in hearing about my journey so I kind of figured like it you know like instead of me coming back and telling them about it they can see it firsthand what it was like and so I just talked I just talked

into the camera as though i was talking to myself or talking to my mom or my best friend and i just gave it all you know I really wanted to document the experience and so I talked about some of the more specific details that had I known that you know a ton of people were going to be seeing this video I probably wouldn’t have talked about yeah yeah and then I just kept making more it it felt very freeing to talk about it but I love

writing and that’s really powerful for me but to be able to just kind of articulate it and to just have that on video for me was great and so I made I believe six videos when i was in peru and all with the intention of just showing to an intimate group of people and as my time in peru kind of progressed I started to realize more and more that these videos weren’t just for myself and these people in my life that my journey was different and that I had an experience

that would resonate with a lot of people and that it was almost my sacred duty to humanity to share this with the world and to to put these videos up on YouTube and it was never really my intention to market them or it or I mean I had already trained to be a coach and so again that was kind of in the back of my mind of wanting to step more fully into my role as a coach and guiding people but it wasn’t out of the intention of like marketing myself or anything like

that it was just kind of like when I posted that first video I actually said a prayer before it and I just said you know universe whoever needs to hear this message I trust that you will you know allow them to find this video and I just let it be at that and it has just grown since then I think I have close to 50 videos up now and the way that I make videos is I just when I feel inspired when I feel that zing that I talked about of something that I feel like

someone somewhere will benefit from I just post I you know grab my computer and I make a video and I post it and I just let it go out into the world how do you feel about this kind of personal braining that’s going on with you know these YouTube stars you know you have people with their blogs that are becoming internet celebrities how do you how do you feel about this changing landscape and in every aspect I think you know on so many levels it’s a really

beautiful thing i think that the internet has allowed us to experience life in a way that we had never before as a species right i mean you guys never would have found me you know we wouldn’t be having conversation if it wasn’t for the internet and I’ve connected with so many beautiful beautiful people in this last year since I posted that first video and and whether it’s just people commenting on my videos or the the numerable private messages that people

send me or emails or connecting with people who eventually become klein hands it’s been such a gift to to be able to connect with people all over the world we’re living in the future Hey Oh totally yeah this is totally the future that being said I think um you know my boyfriend o’yea says he’s like I feel like I’m dating a celebrity and I’m like what filming that doesn’t feel like me at all like I don’t see myself like that at all but then I guess other people do

in a way see me as a YouTube star or this or that you know we all have our own perspectives and I’m just like I just want to share you know I just want to see more light in the world I just want to see more people be happy I just want to see more people having fun and being playful and you know it doesn’t really matter to me if that’s one person or you know the 3,500 people who have subscribed to my youtube channel so far it’s just as long as it’s that one

person you know as long as like one person receives benefit from what I’m doing then it totally makes it worth it you know it seems kind of cliche but I feel the same way about the podcast and I feel like if we can reach just that one person that we’ve done our jobs in some way but you also have this community that you set up where people can connect and kind of talk can you tell us more about that mmm yeah so this whole process has been just like I just

take it as it comes it unfolds and and I take and this is what I was kind of talking about about the masculine and the feminine right so my whole coaching practice and the community and the videos I don’t have a business plan I don’t have a business strategy I don’t sit down and you know all right well today I’m going to write this blog and tomorrow I’m gonna write this video and this is the plan for the community and this and that it’s not like that at all

for me I just go with it and I just take it as it comes and what I realized is as I was connecting with a lot of people from all over the planet from so many different walks of life is that the one thing that kind of tied us all together is that we feel like we’re alone we feel like we are outsiders in world and like work crazy no word that a lot of people use and I know that I felt a lot of times myself and a lot of people just kept saying like you know I

don’t really need coaching but I just want someone to talk to about what I’m experiencing I need to know that I’m not crazy and so I decided I’m like why not like why not create this community where people can come to and connect and share and you know be inspired and grow together and just kind of see where it goes so it started with an online forum and then from there we opened up to monthly group calls and recently I expanded it to Facebook at the request

of many of the members to kind of have a more like daily interaction so is it more like a mastermind group is that we were doing it it isn’t quite a mastermind now um it’s just a place for people to connect I guess I mean so we actually had a our monthly group call was earlier today and I led the first I think the first group call was in November so no you know four months or so and I let I actually handed the reins over to someone else this month I let

someone else lead the group because the group isn’t about me I just happened to be kind of the common thread between all of these people because of my youtube videos but I I’m not really trying to like you know market it or sell anything or anything like that it’s just a way for people to share and and I feel like one of the greatest gifts that I can give people through this and and that has been given to me is the space to step up into my leadership abilities and

to know that I can create influence in the world and then I am a force for good and so I started asking members of the community if they want to lead the group calls to kind of give them that space to to be a leader and to two step more fully into their power okay or Ariana speaking of crazy we’re gonna we’re kind of try this new bit so Xavier never been taught about doing this for some interviews and it’s got it says the called the five

questions segment so we’re gonna ask you five questions and we want you to answer the questions as like I’m gonna ask you a question right and I want you to answer it how it makes you feel and try to use adjectives you can like the first thing that you think of the first thing that comes your mind right when you’re on the spot right now this is not a game all right all right let’s go right you’re popping our five questions cherry

right now on the human experience is it exclusive all right magic moment here already okay favorite color hey why well okay so my favorite color is pink yeah so far so good okay and it makes me feel cheerful is is the first thing that kind of comes to mind okay next question favorite animal and why mmm my favorite animal is the giraffe and why because they’re so strange and awkward and they’re still so cool at the same time you know they’re like horses but was

like crazy long next all right so air water earth fire air water earth fire favorite element and why fire because it it’s what transmutes you know it it changes things um and i’m a fire sign I Maneri we’re over halfway through this we got this favorite body of water any body of water you’ve ever been in or seen or heard of it what’s your favorite body of water and why favorite body of water is I don’t know if this isn’t an answer but my bathtub this is highly

interesting that’s just not really interesting it’s my favorite place to meditate so it clears your mind yeah okay you’re gonna love the reasoning pinal he sinks last question ready so you wake up tomorrow morning in an empty white room there’s no doors there’s no windows how do you react I would think I was dead yeah and I think it would be okay with that not that okay that’s out that kind of came out wrong not that I want to die but I

feel like a white room is like it’s light you know it’s just like pure light it’s what I imagined so I would be I would be centered and calm and embrace it perfect okay so the first one is the color represents how you feel about yourself so what did you say cheerful yeah well yeah cheerful again the animal is your ideal partner so someone that’s weird and awkward it’s your ideal partner the element is your spirituality so fiery mmm and the body water is how

you feel about sex so about there you go and then the last one you actually nailed it is how you feel about death Wow interesting very interesting very interesting so Ariana it has it’s been a pleasure talking to you actually very interesting is there any is there any sort of message or anything that you want to get out to your listeners followers people yeah mmm you know just keep going mmm this is a wild ride we’re on guys is this life experience the

human experience you know and just embrace it make the most of it learn from it what you can and know that there’s more on the other side buckle up perfectly and where seems like you just don’t care and where can people find your work your website my website is the holistic explorer com i’m also on youtube if you just type in my name ariana joy I think you can find me that way awesome well guys this is a human experience thank you so much for

listening and to my guest Ariana and my co-host thanks guys we’ll see you guys you so much guys thanks