Episode 18 – Isaac Weishaupt – Occult Symbology

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experience is 93 million miles away from the nearest rough turbulence and we’re making a three point two degree turn into conspiracy alley my co-host dr. G is riding shotgun our guest is Isaac West comped Isaac welcome to hxp hey thanks I’m very privileged to be on such a refined podcast as as I listen to a few of your episodes and like I kind of talked about with you guys offline you guys are very much more highbrow than the typical stuff I I get

into with with Hannah other shows and material it’s kind of a seedy dark world that I deal with a conspiracy stuff well I will I will accept that compliment man I really appreciate that I’m pretty entertained by the stuff that’s on your website actually man so if we could just if we could just dig right into what’s mean if I get if I have this right these secret handshake pardon my American the secret handshaking are performing

these occult rituals inside of our media inside of the TV that we walked so the the music that we hear what’s what’s going on here yeah so let me let me preface this a little bit so people don’t think I’m in my mom’s basement wearing a tinfoil hat like I you know this is my hobby because you know I’m like a full-time professional square that sits in a cubicle all day doing I don’t want to do right and you know several years ago I kind of got

steered down this path of conspiracy theory and aliens and for a long time it was just you know kind of entertainment that kind of struck a nerve with me that I was in a weird way it kind of you feel more comfortable thinking there was like this these aliens in this conspiracy out there because you know and I’ve read some of the like ideas behind that it’s kind of like it supports this idea that there is somebody in control of your life and you

know if so I’ve read all like the psychobabble about why why I’m interested in that but when it comes down to it I think it’s just interesting and I’m gonna fast-forward through a bunch of years and I someone turned me on the David Icke and he really blew my mind and I got really got into his stuff pretty deep and you know the masses the majority of people don’t you know they’ve never really sat through an eight-hour David Icke lecture or read

his thousand page books right and so I found myself translating this material to my friends and family trying to explain you know hey you know check this out there’s reptilian shapeshifters you know yeah and you know and I see the reactions and I get it and I’m not saying I believe that the reptilian shapeshifters but there’s enough grain of truth in it that I’m like wow that’s kind of interesting and kind of creative how he came up with

that you know but so I got into all this stuff and then you know I was I was in grad school and I was I was I started a blog right and and it started with all I kind of wanted to do something that was into my particular niche of interest which was like I was into rap music and horror films coming out and a little bit of pop culture sci-fi stuff and a little bit of conspiracy and overtime long story short after about a year that

I slowly started picking up like oh people are interested in the conspiracy stuff and I was getting lots of compliments like hey you’re breaking down these conspiracies in a way that makes sense you know that’s and people were really digging this okay cool I’ll kind of focus on that and I found myself studying more of the occult and you know it’s kind of been a wild thing because now I’m on this like journey that all the all the people that come to the web

site we are I call them Watchers for a lack of a better term because the websites of Illuminati watcher com hmm it’s kind of like a community now where we’re all kind of exploring these ideas and saying hey you know I saw this symbol over here in this movie and people send me the email and I’m being like oh look at that you know you know that in this isn’t I’ve seen enough of the amateur stuff online of like you know like example

when I think with Peyton Manning some football player I don’t watch football but someone some guy took his helmet off he had like an imprint that was like a triangle on his head and it was a meme that went online on Twitter like Oh Peyton Manning Illuminati haha you know like this isn’t stupid like that like this is like I’m watching music videos and films and you know I mean I said most of the time there’s a reasonable rational explanation for it

and the more I learn about this the more the pulse and the analysis makes sense and you know if you go to my website you can look I’ve got pulse from three years ago when I started the thing that are still up there and they’re god-awful they’re terrible to read and I want to someday just take them down but I don’t have the time to well the idea the idea that I get is that by using this symbology in television and the things that we absorb there is a conscious mind

and then your subconscious mind so if you’re using these symbols to affect the subconscious mind you’re somehow affecting human consciousness in some way means that is that the general idea of this yeah right so the idea that that I subscribe to is backed up by several kind of philosophers and you know phd’s that know their like dr. Joe Dispenza and quantum physics and stuff and it talks about how the brain works the brain basically is just a pattern

identifier I don’t want to I don’t want to insult the brain but like the way the way we use it is from birth were were we’re fed a bunch of you know horse and say you know here’s this thing that happens and you set up patterns in your mind so like by the time you’re you know 15 your brain is full of like you know when this thing happens to you expect this result and that’s you know why a lot of people suffer with different you

know personality issues their whole life is because they don’t ever break that original programming you know coffee standard paired the standard narrative like get a job married that kind of thing yeah that too right you know everything everything our society’s kind of built upon you notice that there has been a sort of resurgence of this idea of the Illuminati just because pre pre 9/11 or so no one was really talking about the Illuminati I

mean it wasn’t it wasn’t this household term 10 11 12 years ago pre 9/11 so now now it’s kind of comical to me how many people are making fun of it talking about it yeah so if you look back you know in hindsight you look back there’s like a few pivotal moments in society first one that kind of stands out in 1947 the mid 40s there we had you know World War two going on with Hitler and you know he was into all this occult stuff and at the same time we had you

know Jack Parsons and l ron Hubbard you probably recognized those names they were performing magic rituals to evoke these kind of entities from another dimension at the same time and in the same and then right after that we had the Roswell UFO crash so in 1947 there was all this a cult activity that was kind of unprecedented for you know several hundred years then then we had 1963 with JFK’s assassination and the whole sixties movement which you know

the more you research that you’ve got all these ties of the the CIA and the Laurel Canyon stuff and the hippie movement with the MKULTRA mind control stuff basically there was this whole period of the 60s that there’s tons of conspiracy theories about right and then the third major shift is 9/11 because you had the whole truther movement that believes the 9/11 stuff was faked now couple all that stuff with the internet where you know any Yahoo can get a

website you know I did it and you can really put together a message that a lot of people can kind of glom onto and read and my thing is if if it didn’t have some kind of true to it like people wouldn’t be as interested in it as they are right sooo cute can we kind of like break down the the thread between all these different things you’re saying so there is the Illuminati as far as like Adam West hopped in the Bavarian Illuminati I

don’t know I don’t know how I don’t know much about that but what is the distinction between these groups like the Freemasons the Illuminati the skullenbones societies the Rosicrucians like are they all together or what it who’s the the conductor behind the seeds pulling pulling the strings here yeah that’s the million dollar question they’re all they’re all connected it’s basically like a big spider web and you know if you want to look at trying to

like have a brief history you can go back to the beginning of time and there’s a certain kind of theory line that the Annunaki these alien races from the planet Nibiru came here and seeded humans to make them their slaves like what do you believe what do you actually believe so I don’t the further back it goes the more distorted it gets I so I can’t really commit to like this super like hundreds of thousands of years ago stuff but I do believe that there’s lots

of talk of this Golden Age that that occurred and like zakaria stitch in and his work on like gold and didn’t do that well that that’s the Annunaki kind of theory that aliens came here and started us you know and then there’s the the biblical kind of theory that the the Watchers the Angels came in and seeded the this Nephilim alien race mm-hmm and then there’s this other idea of these reptilian shapeshifters but either way no matter which branch

you go down you you end up in the cradle of civilization there in Mesopotamia which is kind of where everything kicked off with the Sumerians and they were kind of the first ones that we know of in recorded history that that started like these communities and actual inventions and supposedly they were given alien you know technology and and knowledge so they had secret societies from the from the get goes what you’re saying right because because back in the day

they used to like the people select the rock stars of those days were you know priests and sorcerers and the people that held the knowledge right and it passed it only passed through it power was knowledge much more so then than it is now and it only passed through certain bloodlines which supposedly tie into whoever seated this whole thing you know whether you wanna believe the Anunnaki or the reptilians or the nepheline so there is there is a

bloodline system in play at work Rothschilds Bilderbergers like all these like different groups that are kind of pushing social agendas events economics and and your site focuses on the media aspect of this and how we are being programmed by what we watch what we see on TV in an occult ritualistic way right precisely the the the Divine Right to rule that’s why you know England’s got the monarchy there it’s that they think because of their bloodline they’re

superior to the rest of us and you know if you look back at the the hermetic mystery schools it was like ancient Egypt and which bled over into Greece and Rome that those the people that were allowed in those schools to get that knowledge we’re only you know only certain people which are arguably this quote-unquote Illuminati bloodline and you know you can look go to Washington DC and you can see the influence that the Egyptians and

the Romans have on in America right because and that’s where I’m kind of going with this kind of timeline is you’ve got this this knowledge I was handed down to certain people then we go into you know the 1700s with the Age of Enlightenment stuff and that’s when the the the the real Illuminati subgroup came about you know item wise hop like you were talking about and this is the the movement that really sparked things and and that’s what started the whole

fight against the the church what happened there well so they pushed so that was like the beginning of these ideals these kind of you know I guess back then there were liberal ideas these idea of equality democracy separation of the church and state you know freedom and liberty and this was like the late 1700s so you can see how you know I think it was the same year that the Illuminati the Bavarian Illuminati group was formed was the same year that the Declaration

of Independence was signed and you look at the founding fathers and most of them were freemasons because they the claim is that isin Adam why I hop was kind of driven away from his homeland there and he he sprouted up like subgroups in within the Freemasons and anyway so you know things good know you know how this goes this conspiracy game gets kind of really confusing quick but slippery slope yeah so basically you got the you

know he’s just he’s just another part of this kind of secretive group of you know bloodline group that is putting this message out and at some point he went into the Freemasons and then they became our founding fathers and that that’s why America is like the big project right that’s why you know when when the world talks about entertainment we dominate in America the people in other countries watch our movies and listen to our music

it’s not the other way around generally right and you look at the symbolism of stuff that you can see and in DC like I was talking about and this kind of supports that idea because people want to pretend we’re this Christian based god-fearing country to begin with but that’s absolutely not the case there’s not statues of Jesus Christ in Washington DC there’s obelisks you know so what what is the purpose of this like what what are they trying what is

the agenda what’s the goal what’s the what’s happening see and that’s where I was kind of at that that’s kind of the stage I was at on the website a couple years ago I didn’t really I don’t really get it but then I got into this other theorist Freeman fly and he broke down the the magical orders within like the secret societies that that how all these like secret mysticism teachings which includes like the Kabbalah in this Tree

of Life stuff and different forms of paganism and Wicca you know and it kind of the list goes on and on there’s like these but but it all kind of ties together it’s kind of like the same principle that they all have and they believe that you can shape the universe towards your will if you conduct certain rituals and use certain symbols which is why we see all these symbols over and over and over again so you think they’re protecting

that information more so than allowing things to get out it seems yeah I think you know there’s there’s a certain amount of speculation that has to come into play at some point you know things got driven underground and all we can really do is observe it and you know read through some of the literature that that we see like for example Aleister Crowley seems to be tied in with everything he’s the the British occultist of the right late you know

1800 early 1900s he’s pretty much hailed by all you know rock stars and any kind of good occultist has his roots with Aleister Crowley the most evil man that ever lived yeah the wicked beast or whatever II cannot yeah yes he so what all he was doing was kind of take he was rehashing all these old kind of seek the secret knowledge he was rehashing it and kind of expanding upon it that’s why he’s revered so much is because he took all

these ideas of being able to channel different entities from another dimension and and he did that like in you know he did that in Egypt where he talked to this this spirit called a wasp that dictated to him this whole Salima religion that he came up with and you know if you look at all his stuff you know it all ties together Aleister Crowley stuff ties in with the Freemasons which ties into the Ordo Templi Orientis they’re kind of all one

in the same rio tio in a sense yeah because I and and a lot of stuff like I have to go off of what I’m reading and I don’t I don’t read through like the super shady materials online that you can tell is obviously not like there’s no study into it you can read through some of their books and read it for yourself like the like Kenneth grant and he started the Typhon Ian OTO it’s like a branch off of Aleister Crowley and he talks about channeling these alien

entities which is a very common thing that we’re seeing nowadays and all forms of you’re not saying that Crowley’s like definitely involved with these Freemasons Illuminati you’re just saying that the concept of this deity worship or getting to this mystical realm is something that certain groups are trying to buy for yeah that’s what it seems like it seems so like explore a lot of the the music industry stuff and I put together a whole book of just rappers

and pop singers mm-hmm and how they all have the same pattern where they talk about how they have different personalities and spirits that take over and alter egos I mean they’re not all schizophrenic right so why are they saying this stuff Wow yeah so is that is that part of the monarch programming that they’re receiving I mean I’ve seen your videos man and it’s it’s just so interesting that these people who are super rich super famous are talking

about basically selling their souls in blood to Satan and I mean that’s a bit strange man it’s it’s weird it’s super weird the the so that whole idea of you know selling the soul that’s the Faustian bargain but the what’s even stranger is that like that whole blood sacrifice idea but it I talk about how just like I talked about a few minutes ago how the you look at the timeline of all these ancient cultures and how we’ve kind of formed this into this Illuminati

bloodline the the ancient cultures used to sacrifice humans all the time to is Maalik deity or chalk or you know you fill in the blankets they would they would typically sacrifice people in order to appease these gods to you know either get it to rain for the crops or in some cases make it stop raining because it was flooding the crops you know it was and that was all they really knew how to do you know hundreds of years ago so they used to do this all

the time and we’re led to believe that were more advanced than that now but my argument is there’s a subgroup of people that are still hooked into this ancient tradition and I can back that up with the Bohemian Grove stuff where you know in Northern California there’s this camp that all the elites of the world not all the elites but I guess certain privileged elites in entertainment and business and politics they meet up every

year and have a little boys camp and they and they do this ritual to this giant stone owl called the cremation of care where they take a mock quote/unquote mock child and sacrifice it to this deity in effigy yeah it sounds like ritual magic I mean that’s what yeah so you know we’re supposed to believe that human sacrifice isn’t an option or and I don’t know why I don’t like it it’s not like we’re above killing some people you know to

me like we go to war all the time you know I mean it’s just packaged murder packaged differently blood blood is the Umbra of the God so to speak and all those rituals that they talk about is there’s something inherent about the energy of human blood and the sacrifice that you mentioned before have you ever read um a book I think this will die sheep will die or something like that it was this guy that went on this kind of rant online he had this PDF that’s

floating but in the beginning of it it mentioned what you were you’re saying earlier about how if we were this monkey species or in these tribes in the Mesopotamian area right and we’re just learning you know math and astrology and astronomy at the like that and you’re this group that knows when there’s gonna be say a Eclipse and you have that information you know you’re gonna use that to control the minds of the other people do

you think that’s how it started yeah they used to follow that that that hermetic maximum of as above so below where they they think that things tied things that happened in the cosmos and the stars you know the movement of the different astrological signs and constellations and whatnot they believe that that was tied into what they did on the microcosm on the earth and and vice versa so the I and and this is an idea that I I supported with you know there’s a guy

Robert Hooke who used to he studied this thing called cymatics where he would take flour more or less and put it on a vibrating plate and the the frequency of that vibration would produce certain patterns and that’s where we get this idea that like frequency and wave form vibrations which aren’t tangible things are not material things they can cause different changes and effects in the material world you know kind of gets out into some woowoo stuff but I I I went to

college for eight years and I’ve got a masters of engineering and I studied a lot of like you know physics quantum physics and you know that that stuff really blew my mind this is before I started the website like the whole idea that you know we are our retinas and our corneas are lenses that actually invert everything so the world is actually upside down but our brain processes and re reverse it so that we’re not confused when we move around like like that’s

some crazy stuff yeah yeah you look at all this quantum physics stuff and all these ideas that things are connected even though they dope here they’re not and things are there until you look at them then they’re not there it’s st. if it is it kind of makes you crazy a little bit like do like we really don’t know what’s going on here and and and it’s all happening right now as we speak like just complexity upon complexity yeah and you know it’s it’s

tough because I like the movie like the matrix you know the Matrix films were really good for exploring these kind of ideas and it all ties into like like Plato’s allegory of the cave and stuff and it’s this idea that like we could be living in a kind of holographic universe which you know that’s that’s debatable whether or not but like there’s legitimate scientists that argue this you know smarter than me but uh that’s it that’s a good segue actually cuz I

really want to bring up your work on Stanley Kubrick because he to me is the I mean I I admittedly am a bit obsessed with with the movies that he made and I just find him so interesting and he seems to be the most prolific at really demonstrating these symbols in a visual way that is highly complex and it it’s very immersive I mean do you agree he brings you into it’s it’s almost for ritual watching the movie itself yeah I agree with you totally I like I said

like before I was even into any of this stuff before I was even in conspiracies when I was a kid you know I watched Clockwork Orange and I was hooked man I was like like a and I couldn’t explain why like I just loved the movie then I watched a full metal jacket when I was a kid and I loved that movie too and and The Shining then you know I was about I think I was like maybe twenty when I saw maybe 22 I know when I saw Eyes Wide

Shut and I was kind of like like I didn’t really like the story but the film had me hooked just like the other two Kubrick films and I couldn’t I couldn’t put my finger on it I just like man I really like this Kubrick guy you make some cool films you know and then I got into all this conspiracy stuff and looking for symbolism and you know Jay Widener I give him the credit for for even put piecing this together cuz I other the shining stuff and the the Apollo

landing theories that he come up with is what kind of got me interested in Kubrick and I I started looking into like 2001 a Space Odyssey and and I’m finding like this kind of underlying theme that ties in with all these films and they’re the same exact topics that I cover in entertainment industry and other you know music videos and films it’s this idea that there’s all these occult concepts and symbols and principles and if you watch his films

you can see them in these films so yeah like I I agree like I’m I’m like I’ve seen his films like multiple times and I’m not really like that with films like I typically like once is plenty for me but I mean Kubrick seemed like he was definitely playing the long game I mean if you watch if you watch just the way that he released the movies in the order that he released them they all kind of tied together and there is I mean if you

guys listening can go watch them for yourselves after hearing this but I mean there there is definitely a message a subtext that he is he’s kind of pulling you towards or asking you to like look at and I mean the stuff with the moon landing and maybe he was hired to do that I mean even even without that and wow man there there is some really deep occult stuff happening in Kubrick’s work I mean what what have you noticed about Kubrick that fascinates you the most

well fascinates me the most oh boy you know I think the the fact that we see those same like for instance Clockwork Orange thought it’s pretty much like an MKULTRA mind control film Eyes Wide Shut it’s about sex magic orgies and rituals and it’s kind of like dark satanic underbelly of the Illuminati and 2001 with its Saturn symbolism you know it’s just it’s too is too well orchestrated it’s blatant almost yeah it’s very blatant

you know like the fact that like like in 2000 out that the monolith in 2001 was the same dimensions as the the movie screen mhm you know that kind of blows my mind because you know they really had to go through some painstaking labor probably to make that so and I’m sure Kubrick stuck it to him to make sure they did it what do you think is the most fascinating part of Kubrick’s work that you find the most interesting I think it’s fascinating how he was able

to weave these called symbols through all of his films from 2001 with its Saturn symbolism and then a Clockwork Orange with its mind-control symbols and The Shining with the fake The Shining actually had several different kind of hidden messages within it who had but then his final film Eyes Wide Shut which a lot of people really trashed when it came out that’s arguably the film that got him killed with the you know he depicted these satanic sects ritual you

know which is arguably sex magic or just some kind of satanic ritual you know because they filmed it in one of the mansions of the Rothschild family which as we were talking about earlier is allegedly one of the bloodlines of the Illuminati right was there anything with um an artificial intelligence I know he died before him and kind of Spielberg picked up the latter half of that but is there a clear message of some kind of symbology that he wanted in artificial

intelligence or the message that he wanted there yeah I think he was working he was working on AI for like a lot of years beforehand trying to like doctor it up somehow and then when he and he actually started working on it but then he died but if that would fall right in with my kind of overarching theory of where they want to take all this is this transhumanism movement and a lot of people don’t see it coming you know in fact even when you you know when I was

typing my first book up where I talked about this you know Microsoft Word doesn’t recognize the word transhumanism you know and five years from now my you know because right now it’s not like and everyone’s vocabulary but it’s this idea that the we’re gonna approach what is dubbed the singularity where artificial intelligence will surpass the human mind capabilities and that’s when it’s kind of like a done deal and you know you could argue where what that

means for us is the human race we could either be taking advantage of that and living these super awesome immortal lives or it’s the matrix where we’re gonna go to war with the robots and they’re gonna win and now we’re just energy sources yikes yeah that’s that’s hardcore man I mean the transhumanism thing I definitely find a little bit disturbing I mean this this idea but I mean if you’ve got all this wealth and power and money and control the first thing that

you’re worrying about is dying I mean that’s that you don’t want to age you want that forever so kind of fill yeah look at just look at our culture how much emphasis we put on looking young and that’s just getting worse and worse you see more and more plastic surgery and the the entertainers of today are you know teenagers it’s kind of weird you know I remember when I was a kid like I don’t know the music groups were in their 30s or whatever and now you

know these people that are famous for music or like in teenagers you know you can anti difficult almost yeah it’s this obsession of getting younger and another idea you could look at with this transhumanism agenda is that these people make these Faustian bargain with the devil and they sell their soul to the devil to get fame and fortune and you know the payback for that is when they die they go to heaven their soul goes to hell right well if they can

master transhumanism they can arguably live forever and never have to repay that debt now this is this is kind of unfortunate this is where I see everything going and it and it kind of freaks me out because like when I studied I studied electronics engineering and math at a math minor and we looked a lot at we would like we were plot plotting curves for different things like for example Moore’s law which says the number of transistors that fit on a chip

doubles every you know two years roughly and that’s a an exponential curve which means it increases very rapidly but humans our mind thinks when we predict things we can only predict linearly like we say you know if this then that and that’s pretty much the extent of what we naturally think of so we have this technology that’s increasing at this exponential rate meanwhile here we are just thinking linear linearly and this singularity is around the corner now

they’re saying that this moment where the artificial intelligence takes over is anywhere between 2030 and 2040 and you know it’s to the point where in modern program management and business practices they’re they’re trying to come up with these like like when they come up with like their acquisition lifecycle plan and all this they’re trying to come up with ways to accommodate future technologies in the strategies because you know nowadays like if it takes you

you know two years to field an entire platform of whatever it is you’re working with two years from now she’s gonna be like I said increasing exponentially and the things you’re working on might be useless you know just ten years ago there was no such thing as an iPhone you know most people were still using dial-up internet you know thing and it’s just gonna get worse and worse and no one’s really talking about this and most people the

masses don’t have no idea this thing is coming so it makes me wonder like why is this being kept so quiet and I think it’s because the Illuminati or these privileged bloodlines that like you said have all the money there I mean there’s that’s the only thing you can buy is eternal life there they’re already working on what they call mind files and basically the idea is that you know everyone’s got a Facebook page right so the idea is you can take a

person you can figure out a person’s personality and make make your Facebook profile like this digital avatar like like on the Wii I don’t know if you have a Nintendo Wii where you can make a little character right mm-hmm the idea is that once the computing power is there we could you know you could sit down at a computer open up the software answer you know two thousand questions about what you like what you dislike your memories how you feel who

you like and they can create this digital avatar version of you that’s so real that if someone was like you know skyping or instant messaging they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference plot twist we’re we’re already we’re in a computer right now and we’ve forgotten and then we’re gonna build a computer that we can house our other cause so it’s like a computer within a computer the Saturn cult the Saturn idea like the the symbols it it really looks like

Freemasonry is like the symbol for Saturn or something how does that all tie in that’s one of the that’s one of the more mysterious things I’m still trying to kind of decode a lot of that but basically if you read some of the occult literature from you know Satanists they’ll talk about the the the Brotherhood of Saturn for example it’s like another one of these magical orders and they worship Saturn because like back in the day Saturn was the outermost

planet and that was kind of the outcast of all the planets and you know Satanists and most left hand passers they they worship Satan and nonconformist things because they you know they simply don’t want to conform to what society tells them to believe in and you know this is why stores like you know Hot Topic are so popular and all these dark goth kids are all around us because they they’re tired of hearing the you know the Christian message or

whatever they think is being forced down their throats so so back in the day they used to work back when they used to worship stars and planets the the occultists used to worship Saturn now there’s different theories on why that is one of them which is kind of it’s kind of hard to understand but the claim this Saturn used to be our original Sun it was like a brown dwarf star and we used to be we used to live on the on our planet Earth in like

basically a sheath of the brown stars you know light basically and it was like a purple purple kind of haze right like Jimi Hendrix and and this idea was actually supported by a friend of Albert Einstein’s Velikovsky where he says Saturn used to kind of be in the place where it was a you know right adjacent to the earth and then it got got whacked by something and then got shifted out into the you know outer planets and then the moon showed up right there

and that’s how the moon got here mm-hmm are you you familiar with Jordan Maxwell’s work about the but the Saturn cult no that’s the year the second I’ve heard of Jordan Maxwell is the second person that actually said you need to check out his Saturn stuff so it’s crazy it’s crazy I’ll have to really good on that yeah there’s there’s this satyr stuff kind of weird to me because I it was it belonged to the used to be the planetary force

behind the the zodiac of the Aquarius and and if you look at the Age of Aquarius movement they they think that the Age of Aquarius is either upon us right now or it’s coming really soon but they believe that that’s going to be this new shift of mankind where we’re going to be it’s going to be an age of technology which is precisely what talking about with the singularity stuff and the Age of Aquarius is depicted with the water carrier and that’s arguably

why we’re seeing these ritual sacrifices of Whitney Houston and Bobby Kristina Philip Seymour Hoffman died in the bathroom and they died on like he died on embalm which is like a witch sacrifice night so yeah there’s like this tie-in with this age of aquarius and there’s there’s whole like book dedicated to this this movement of the Aquarians and how that’s the Illuminati’s thing like they started the hippy movement on all this stuff you

know the the Mayans used to have this idea that at the moment of death there was this massive energy transfer of conscious like when when consciousness moves out of the body and disconnects in the physical body dies the Mayans thought that you could harness that energy that’s why they were doing all these sacrifices so maybe maybe these these people who are kind of running things are using that same idea that that creating this ritual sacrifice

gives them more power that’s yeah that’s an interesting thought you know Aleister Crowley called it the ultimate orgasm death that is lipid heat Lippitt eat hurt the libertine more the little death they call it oh you’re on to the next level I want some French next-level yeah so like they think that all like you know same thing with like the sex orgies like they think the the orgasm brings about a certain energy field that they could manipulate to do

whatever it is they do channels demons you know I don’t know I don’t I’ve never been in a magical order but I’m just reading you know the stuff that they put out and that’s what it says we were talking a V remember talking about this the other day about you know what if the next big paradigm shift that comes out of say quantum physics is basically the next like the world’s not flat or the atomic bomb is that there are hyper dimensional beings and they have some

they want something do with the material realm they want somebody do with this physical embodiment and that there’s like people in league with these constructs that are out in another dimension and they have they’re at war right now in our route yeah that’s that’s some scary stuff there yeah that well I mean these are cult is believe it like I was saying it with the Thai phony you know do they they purposely try to channel these

entities into our dimensions that so they believe it you you look at different digital that they use and these sigils they’re they’re supposed to evoke this this lord of the abyss that they talk about on the dark side of the kabbalah tree of life and they these are called practitioners they they use these signals and symbols to kind of call upon this lord of the abyss for for different purposes that they you know they deem important and they think that they’re

gonna be able to do this by like will day what they say like fusing the X with the O is what’s gonna help evoke this beast and I point out all these images that you are finding of the X over top of the Oh like you know like x-men Xbox Russell Brant Russell Brand show Brand X Wow Ariana Grande’s latest video I saw it and in part of it like like I’ll be the first admit like you know I’m looking for these patterns but why the hell like

you’ve seen them there’s Browns Lena Sam I think was ex-officer right there’s several roblems there’s uh Sharon’s got an album that’s got a big X it’s supposed to be called multiply but all its on it is a big X Chris McGee said Chris Brown Kylie Minogue has an album called X you know the list goes on and on and so there’s this obvious thing going on with the X and basically you can you can claim that this is somewhat cult stuff that they’re trying to push

and the idea the the idea that makes the most sense to me is actually from a girl I was talking to who who’s a regular on the website she says she used to study witchcraft and she’s really concerned with what’s going on in the world right now and she’s not nutty by any means but she she said that you know the reason we’re seeing these symbols is because things are happening on the on the occult in the dark side while we’re being you know pretty much

distracted with you name it and all these things are happening and they’re accelerating and they’re surrounding us with these symbols because the more that they can throw out there of these symbols the more energy it gives to these these demon spirits or aliens or whatever you want to call it to come into our dimension it just seems it seems like spiritual warfare man like I mean if if our souls are you know the currency of of this war

it’s kind of questionable who’s winning right now just because I mean most people aren’t asking questions they’re not wondering what is going on and there is this resurgence of this this wake up movement and people are starting to I guess the wake up a little bit but is it enough I mean and and with these people who can control media I mean there’s it’s very hard to determine what the long game agenda is for these people that control everything yeah that’s you

know and that’s what’s kind of crazy is I I’m uh I’m actually a Eastern Orthodox Christian and I’m not a good one by any means and I’ve always stood by the firm stance that like I’ve been like you know this website where I talk about conspiracies I’m not gonna like bring Christianity into it like you know most of these people that are into this stuff it’s always like they’re over the top with their Christian message and the Bible verses they post and I’ve always

in and I’ve always kind of been turned off by that cuz I’m kinda you know what man like leave your preach you know do your preaching somewhere else like I’ll I’ll go to my church you do go to yours you know and I’ve always kind of been you know like because I never regularly attended and you know in the last few years I’ve been more regular with it but the the more I’m learning about this the more it’s kind of solidifying my belief

in Christianity I’m like dude like all this stuff was predicted and talked about and we’re going through it and like you said it’s a battle it’s a spiritual battle for our souls and I feel like we’re you know most people are losing because they’re distracted with the Illuminati’s agenda of football and TMZ and Kim Kardashian’s ass you know so I had it begs the question though you know terence mckenna’s said that conspiracy theories are like a system illogical and

epistemological cartoon about reality so it almost seems like the truth seems to be more terrifying that no one is in control and that it’s all kind of one giant game of father leader and there’s no leader and really no one’s holding the puppet strings except maybe like dynamic systems in chaos I mean does that seem to be more likely a possibility or how does that gel with you that’s a great point yeah I I’m not it’s funny you say that I just started

getting into some of the Terence Mckenna and this discordianism topic because I don’t know a lot about it and the it’s the idea that you know chaos is the is the is like kind of the real religion and the real truth about what’s going on and you know we as humans can’t handle the idea that there’s not someone controlling everything and it’s really interesting stuff it seems it seems the way things are playing out is there really is there’s really no gray here

it’s almost like it’s binary there either is something in control here or things are playing out that our quote-unquote destiny as a species has this narrative unfolding that doesn’t really have any semblance of logic to it it’s almost like dreamlike and fanciful this human story that we’re seeing right now yeah you know what freaks me out is there’s all this talk of like these ancient civilizations that have this high technology that that just

disappeared off the face of the earth like atlantis and lemuria and you know arguably some of ancient egypt stuff and it kind of freaks me out because like we’re headed to a point where now they’re saying like oh these the computers are gonna be smarter than us and you know this might be a wrap for us as humans and then meanwhile the whole climate change things going on and it kind of makes me wonder like are we just on this repetitive cycle and like this

shit’s all going downhill in the next hundred years and then 4000 years from now our culture will be up to our point of of knowledge and they’ll be like hey look at this look at this little square iPhone looking thing you know well I guess some yes I’m getting it is like do you think that us as human like we almost need this construct of an Illuminati to kind of allay our fears about how truly random and directionless things are and like despite our best

efforts mother nature really doesn’t give a flying 747 about like seven Jewish bankers in a bunker and read the World Trade Center we were like meticulously crafting some tenuous version of reality and I guess it could go either way I mean it’s just it’s it I guess this is just highly entertaining and when you see I mean it doesn’t it doesn’t really matter and I think I think that that’s a big proponent of this whole thing is that we give it our energy and we’re and

and by giving it our energy we’re somehow giving these rituals that they’re performing power so it’s like when you’re when you see the the Super Bowl or when the Super Bowl comes on don’t watch it turn your TV off that I mean why why would you want to be part of this large game that these people are playing yeah that’s kind of how I feel about it and I I used to be a real cynical I mean I’m fairly cynical still but like that movie

idiocracy like I was like yes that’s it like that’s where we’re headed you know and but now I’m kind of like you know like people need to unwind like like we’ve all been set up in like the system is pretty well stacked against us like everyone’s gotta have a dual income household and people work their asses off at the stressful jobs and they come home and they just want to you know unwind like watch some to entertain them so like I get that

because I’m I’m right there with him you know I like I worked all day today and I’m like like I just want to watch Dual Survival you know like go like you know that’s that’s the Illuminati wins when we do that when we just give up and not talk about this stuff because you know I wholeheartedly absolutely when I’m as I believe something is going on because I’m seeing these symbols and everything yeah and these same people that are

pushing these symbols are the ones that are you know popular in supposed pop culture like ariana grande you know like nothing that gets her but like I don’t know like a lot of people can sing you know actually in America’s Got Talent and you know American Idol so like there’s tons of people I can sing what makes her special well yes actually a bad example she can’t give you that but you know like so you know certain artists like I’m you

know they push these symbols over and over again and I’m like why is this person so so famous and on top of the charts all the time I like their musics that good you know but yeah yeah and then and then when you when you start to fall off out of favor with this group of people I suddenly you end up dead or your your your career gets ruined or something happens to your name or I don’t know man it’s it’s really interesting but Isaac this this hour

flew by man like it was you’re a really cool cat it’s highly interesting work is there anything that you wanted to kind of get out any message anything you got to say to the people listening right now no mandate I mean go to go to Lunati watch calm and you can sign up for the I got a free email newsletter and you know you could basically just get on that list and could I stand out like monthly like here’s the most recent that I found you know but yeah like I

honest-to-god feel like if we can kind of spread this message I feel like the more people that are aware of this the more it might foil these attempts of this dark future that they’ve got laid out for us I agree man dr. G you got anything else for our guests I mean as as dark as the future is at least we’ll have our gonna grand and Chris Brown and loop on the background all the time so alright guys well thanks for listening this is the human experience get to

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