Transcript for Episode 143 – Dr. Joe Vitale – Reality Creation, Law of Attraction, Relationships, Overcoming Fear

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you on a chip we are the intimate strangers thank you for listening ladies and gentlemen welcome we’ve planned an incredible episode for you guys this evening our guest dr. Joe Vitaly whose. work I’ve been studying for well over a decade he has been on my list of people to interview since the inception of hxp so this is gonna be a very powerful.

conversation sit back grab a drink maybe some popcorn and enjoy this this conversation the human experiences in session my name is Xavier katana my guest for today is dr. Joe Vitale dr. Joe Vitale. is an author speaker and spiritual teacher best known for his appearance in the movie the secret he is regarded as one of the top copywriters and most?

successful marketers on the planet Joe has an incredible story of at one point in his own life being homeless on the streets of Dallas where the books he. read taught him the metaphysics and positive thinking he needed to use the law of attraction in his own life to gain worldwide fame and success Joe is. also a musician who has been featured in Rolling Stone magazine he’s delivered talks in many countries around the world he’s been referred to as the Buddha of.

the internet he has appeared on such outlets as Larry King Newsweek CNBC and now the human experience Joe it is truly a pleasure thank you so much for making. the time to be here welcome to hxp thank you and looking forward to this very moment I’ve seen what you’ve done in the past heard some of your interviews and I.

thought I can’t wait for my turn and so this is this is the moment this is the one I’ve been waiting for you know you’re a success in life when you get to. be on the human experience podcast wow that’s that’s so that’s such a huge compliment coming from you especially thank you so much for for making a point.

to do that so I mean Joe some people might not know who you are some it may be very briefly if you could just kind of give us a little introduction about. what you do who you are please Wow okay we can do that I am primarily an author I have written 70 some books some of them have been the best-selling life?

changers so I’m told I wrote the attractor factor I love wrote a lot of self-help spiritual books metaphysical books but I also wrote a lot of nonfiction market being publicity. copywriting advertising kind of books early in the 1990s I was one of the first internet marketers when the internet showed up and wrote one of the first books on internet marketing way.

back in the mid 1990s but I also had a spiritual side so I was writing spiritual books along the way and one of those books the attractor factor got. noticed by a woman in Australia who called me up and said she wanted to make a movie about the law of attraction one of the concepts in the book and would I.

be in it but ended up being a life-changing decision because as you know that movie was the secret since then I’ve been asked to write spiritual. book speak on spiritual subjects and most of the marketing copywriting has been left aside because everybody wants to know what’s the metaphysics of success so what am i I’m an author I am.

a musician as you said I am a speaker traveling around the world talking about all of these different subjects and I pretty much just follow my passion of that I mean. you you seem like you’ve crafted you know you’ve created the dream life for yourself there you know going from where you went to where you are now and the.

the notoriety that you’ve gained and and worldwide success really and I mean the the law of attraction is something that in circles now I think is very. well-known about and very highly spoken of so you know let’s let’s start there there was I think there was an interview that you did in Huffington Post where. you talked about your collection of rare books you and you mentioned you learned about the law of attraction in some of those books so you know what is the law.

of attraction and which books of yours you know helped you understand it well that’s a great question and it opens up this wonderful treasure chest because I’m a book a holic I absolutely love. books and when I was homeless in Dallas is you had mentioned in the intro I expect most of my time in the Dallas Public Library which was a blessing and.

a curse you know I was blessing this Here I am and the Holy Grail the the vault of wisdom but it was also a curse because I was broke I was unknown I was. didn’t have money for anything and didn’t ever car food any of that but it was reading all of those books the magic of believing by Claude Bristol that 1953.

it came out of course thinking Grow Rich the Dale Carnegie material but what most people don’t know is the law of attraction has been around for a very. long time and there are books from the 1800s and the early 1900’s that talked about the law of attraction and I was able to read those books because of the. library most of those are in the public domain now and you can find them with a 5-second google search but the law of attraction in the most simplistic form.

is basically saying whatever your focus on is what you’re going to tend to attract into your life it’s not that simple but that is the basic kindergarten elementary definition of? law of attraction what you kosong with your thoughts and feelings is what you’re tending to get in your life pretty quickly mm-hmm yeah you know we’ve had we’ve had many.

scientists you know the credentialed scientists that are physicists and we talked about this and in quantum physics it’s represented that this is possible that this is a real phenomenon that that. occurs you know with entangled particles and you know just superposition so you know there is a mass seemingly behind what’s going on here with projecting your thoughts and reality creation.

intention manifestation so you know let’s let’s break it down a little bit more than that you know like let’s say let’s say that you I mean in that. position of being homeless on the streets let’s say that that you encounter a person that you know has no money there or they’re struggling with their finances what is the first tool.

what is the first thing that you give them what is the first tool that you give them to you know start to draw in success money that’s a great question? but it’s a difficult one to answer because if I take myself now and go back in time to visit the Joe on the homeless streets of Dallas in the late 1970s and.

began begin to share some of the things I know now that Joe would probably deck me he would punch me he would not want to listen to me because he is starving. he is broke he is skeptical he is miserable he wants to know how do I survive and I’d be showing up saying hey your thoughts create your reality if you.

can change your thoughts you got to get a different reality I can imagine that a homeless person would be not open to that maybe if I left a brochure that? said here are the top five things to do to begin to change your current situation it would include things like well call 2-1-1 in the United States. there’s lots of phone numbers not just 9-1-1 but other phone numbers you can call and you can get shelter you can get some food or I would say something like.

you know what if you haven’t eaten go sell your blood go get 10 bucks or your plasma we’ll get a hundred bucks and go get some food in your belly right now after. that once they’re able to hear me I might start entertaining the idea that you know what you are thinking is leading to what you’re doing and what.

you’re doing is leading to what you’re receiving and what you’re receiving isn’t necessarily what you want right now so you have to back up and start looking at your thoughts so I would find. some sort of entry point that would say your thoughts are creating your reality and I know depending on where somebody. is at they’re going to be incredibly resistant or if they looked at me as an authority figure and thought well he was homeless once maybe he knows what he’s?

talking about they might open their mind and listen so it’s an awkward place to start because it’s really difficult to know what what exactly is the right. thing to say to somebody who’s in a mess and you really want to say you know what you created that mm-hmm yeah yeah I resonate I can you know I understand. what you’re getting at and I think it’s important you know and I think I mean I had mixed feelings about the secret and?

how it was received so I’m curious you know to understand what you felt after it came out because it felt like to me that people you know thought that they? could just sit back in their bedrooms laying in bed and think you know something into the universe have this magical intention go out and sit back and it appears at your doorstep you know?

that’s just not how it works right yes and I would totally agree with that that was a stumbling point in the movie itself no I would defend the movie to. begin with whether I was in the movie or not I’d say go watch the movie the movies inspiring the movie is a introduction to a self-help principle we. all need to know but that’s the key it’s an introduction it is not a collegiate course it’s not a four-year program it.

is not the encyclopedia of all the techniques principles in psychology you need to know to change your reality it? is basically a introduction on a very introductory level yes visualizing what you want meditating over it are all part of how you create it and attract it but it’s incomplete? from that standpoint I’ve been one of the critics of the movie myself I was on Larry King twice and I think it was the first time when I said this is the flaw.

people are looking at the movie and seeing all they have to do is click their heels together imagine a car or bicycle or soulmate and the doorbell. rings and they go and answer it and there is that there’s their wish fulfilled I do believe in magic and miracles I do believe that that is a. possibility but I mentioned I’ve written 70 some books I’m a musician I have 15 albums out at this point I’m in 17 movies I have about 15 other books I.

want to write a couple that are already done none of this kind of productivity happens by sitting in a chair and visualizing it hmm it begins with. sitting in a chair and visualizing it but at some point you have to take action and that’s the missing secret the people like Jack Canfield who’s also in. the movie and is a great teacher has pointed out that the word action is in the word attraction there is a hint that the law of attraction involves action so.

that’s where I would agree with the critics and say look it’s you know I would defend the movie it’s an introduction but it’s also incomplete because it’s not as easy as sitting in a. chair and visualizing and I and I think I think that is a stumbling point for many people as as you said and you know so so Joe like when you know when we’re.

thinking about what we’re thinking about I you know how do we start to pick apart and sort of diagnose okay this is the aspect of my thinking I need to look at. and work on how do I piece that apart you had great question so let’s see if we can open our brains here and I mean literally try to look at the operating.

system of our own mind the way we create reality is mostly unconsciously we thinking about things obviously I was thinking about this interview you and I having it back and forth this is totally. unscripted I don’t know what you’re gonna ask you don’t know what I’m gonna answer people are listening or just going with the flow but they’re speculating they’re thinking they’re.

getting triggered in different ways on the conscious level but the creations in our life happen on the subconscious / unconscious level the conscious mind is very very tiny it is very very impotent. it’s trying to steer a ship and this ship is imagine that famous scene of the iceberg where ten percents above water in 90 percents below water ninety. percent is the subconscious mind that’s where our programming is our life experience our mental paradigm our belief system the data of our mind that.

is really pushing the ship is below conscious awareness so we have to do our work in the subconscious mind that’s where we have to go now you can use the conscious? mind to get there you can write it and aim it and actually visit the subconscious mind with lots of different tools and techniques but we need to. become aware of a few things for example we create with emotion we create with emotion in fact you cannot create without emotions but most of us are.

focused on hate or we’re focused on fear what I prefer is to have people focus on what they love focus on their passion focus on their pleasure to actually move. and create in a new direction a lot of the reasons people are suffering is that they are focused on what they’re afraid of and they’re worried all the time. which is the form of channeling your energy into a creation that you actually don’t want so I I think the God it’s so hard to answer your question but that’s?

that’s a brilliant question but the answer is along the line of acute self-awareness acute self-awareness is. where it begins mm-hmm yeah you know I I really love your answer it triggered a lot of different thinking patterns for me and you know just looking at the? different blocks that I have in my own you know thinking and subconscious mind where you know let’s let’s say for example that there you know I mean most people.

are thinking about money so let’s let’s just put that let’s just keep using that as an example but I mean let’s say there’s some sort of pre-existing trauma? or pre-existing paradigm belief system that you have against money maybe when you grew up you thought money was an evil thing you know maybe you thought or. maybe you saw something in others and you know it I created something in you that that now is blocking you know this sort of neural pathway that connects you.

to you know the higher universe or whatever the universe is attempting to show you right mm-hmm well there is a lot of that data and we do get. pre-programmed in fact by the time we’re five or six years old as science and psychology has shown most of us are already wired and unless we do something. dramatic and conscious and with awareness and purpose and intention we will pretty much keep that wiring until the day we die and we do want to become.

aware of it for example my father was born in 1925 so by the time he was 5 years old he was living through the Great Depression in America so for his world. and all the people around him his parents his family that neighbors the government the newspapers the media they reinforced in the most unforgettable way that there is not enough there is not.

enough money there is not enough abundance there is not enough food there is not enough security you are going to live in lack and limitation and want and. unfulfilled desires till the day you die well my father died recently he was 93 years old and he never ever shook those beliefs that were anchored in him as a. child here’s the lesson though being his son I inherited those beliefs when I was growing up he would tell me things like the best way to double your money is to.

fold it over and put it back in your pocket and I thought well that’s funny that’s clever and that’s useful double you know fold my money put it back in my. pocket and he would say things like your best friend is the dollar bill in your pocket well I grew up here that and so I also downloaded his. information like money’s bad money’s evil money corrupts and there isn’t enough to go around to begin with anyway so no wonder I struggled with money I.

was in poverty for ten years I was homeless until until I began to do that internal soul-searching dissect your own brain acute ruthless awareness that I’m? referring to and they began to realize wait a minute that’s a belief system what he taught me was a belief system that for him was reality was still a. belief system but for him it was reality I inherited it when I began to wake up to the idea that beliefs create reality and if I can start locating those.

beliefs and changing them maybe I would get a different reality well I by most measures I’m a pretty successful guy in a lot of different areas but that has. only happened from D programming the software that I inherited now I’m saying this because you and every listener has downloaded limiting beliefs mindsets and paradigms from parents from the. community from the culture itself that may or may not be serving you today and what you have to do is look at that and say am i successful am i okay with money.

do I have the spirituality I want or the health I want or the relationship or family I want or am i struggling in certain areas in all of these cases you? want to start to speculate what might I be believing that would create that reality in me now and your beliefs aren’t necessarily and probably are not yours you’ve adopted them unconsciously.

but this is the kind of work we’re going to have to do oh yeah I mean that’s so powerful my condolences for the loss of your father and I it seems it seems like. yes you know it that’s such a huge process as of this deprogramming unlearning as you said I mean Joe I want to ask you you know have you have you ever been around.

someone lets you know where there’s just an energy or of a vibration that you feel and that feeling because of that resonance or that vibration it feels. like almost you know you could manifest anything anything is possible when you’re around this person you know it’s it’s almost like a I don’t know like a. magnetism that just you know it sort of flows out of them as if you know they’re capable of just doing anything what is that what is that when a person is.

harnessing that feeling what is that what a wonderful question it leads me down a couple of different roads that I’m excited to talk about well first of. all that is a person that has done the inner work that is somebody that has already removed the limiting beliefs to their own inner passion their own inner. desires and their own limitations they’ve removed it they’re starting to live a life of zero limits and many of these people like Jack Ma Alibaba they seem like they have no ceiling to the.

possibilities of what they can create because they’re coming from this connection to life force that doesn’t have anything interrupting it I think that the homeless version of me had all. kind of limitations and blocks that were not in my conscious mind they were in my unconscious subconscious mind that would prevent me from seeing any sort of. vision or going for anything more than I wanted to be an author so I was hoping I’d be able to write books and get published someday and I wanted to have a.

place to live and have a car and have a roof over my head those were the very basic visions today my visions shock and surprise and inspire me and one of the things that’s. going on is I’ve removed those inner limitations when we’re around people who have done that I think there is a fire that we catch you can block it I mean.

you can easily just say well those people are crazy or that’s unique or you know they were born under special circumstances or the astrological chart. was right for them you can dismiss it but what I prefer is to be a around those people this is why masterminds which Napoleon Hill talked about in the master or the thinking Grow? Rich in his first course before that the law of success in 1925 his revised version in 1928 he spent a lot of time talking about masterminds a mastermind.

is win six eight or so people get together to support each other and going for their dreams they exchange resources and business cards and such but they’re? also catching fire from each other’s energy and if you have that kind of combination where everybody is a Jack Ma or you know Steve Jobs or somebody. that’s more of a visionary that is going for wild things you start to drop your own limitations and ride their energy wave I get excited talking about it and.

I actually hope that this is what I am for other people that in some way shape or form I am what you’ve described inspiring other people to go for their. dreams because I believe that’s my mission I’m here to inspire people to go for and achieve their dreams so fascinating question just love that yeah yeah I do get that from you and and.

you know it seems like for me in my experience of others lately it seems like more people are you know hip or in tune to energy vibration and and those. types of words or language that maybe before you know they weren’t really talking about like this wasn’t you know like the quote you know woke you know. there wasn’t really a thing it wasn’t a mean so you know I want to talk about the universe and its signals you know because we this this seems to happen in.

an almost mystical way in my life where you know most let me just back up a little bit most people don’t really see how much work it takes to do what we’re doing run. this show amongst the other things that we’re doing in with this company and you know it so it gets frustrating you know it really does and not not that they.

don’t see it but that you know there are these struggles that I’m experiencing myself and I’ve you know there’s been a few times where I’ve been ready to walk away from this you. know and and it’s it’s been challenging but every single time that happens it’s like the universe mystically you know glaringly obviously you know without question put something in front of me.

that says no this is your path this is where you should continue I love that I have a flag theory okay I’ve written about it on my blog a couple times and. the flag theory is this when you start to go for a dream you stated intention whether it’s like you writing or starting your show or it might be with.

me starting a business or writing a book or wanting to create a new music album you look for the signs that tell you. what to do next and I call them the red yellow green flags if there’s a green flag there’s a sign that’s the door opens the window open something? synchronistic seems to happen that’s a green flag it says keep going keep going but if you get a yellow flag and that’s a bump in the road that’s where you got.

disappointed that’s where there was a snag that’s where you had a meeting and the person didn’t show up or you expected a investor and the investor changed their mind there’s a yellow flag. on the road now the yellow flag doesn’t mean stop the yellow flag means pause the yellow flag means pause its cautionary much like if you’re driving down the streets at least in America and.

you got the red yellow and green the yellow paint a bit cautionary slow down a little bit right here you might have to stop so the yellow flag is a time to. pause and reflect and oh should I continue in this direction or I am I being advised or signaled to go left right back up pause for a little bit or.

do something different if you don’t pay attention to the yellow flags they turn into red flags red flags can hurt red flags mean you didn’t pay attention to? the yellow ones so now you are hurt now there was you know some sort of painful occurrence it could be anything from an accident it could be anything from a. you have to pay some money it could be a missed opportunity there’s any number of things so what I tell people is you want to pay attention to the green and yellow.

flags when you say you want to do something which that’s stating your intention a great believer in intentions intentions are a way to align your body in your mind and your energy to go in a. particular direction it’s your target an intention is also a way to tell the universe I call the universe too great something and I titled one of my recent albums the great.

something is a nod to this mystery and the great something is trying to tell us here’s what you do next and if we don’t listen that’s what we get the yellow. flag we don’t listen to the yellow flag hey that’s gonna get a full stop and now we’ve really got to regroup and find out. where we want to go next so I want to pay attention to the green and yellow flags and that’s what I tell people and again this is as you pointed?

out mystical it’s almost like it’s a I don’t know it’s like a quantum unexplainable esoteric invisible hand moving us and the pieces around us to go in a certain direction in some ways it. feels like I’m just an actor here I’m just playing my part in some game of life scripted by the great something and I play my part because if I follow the.

green flags and the L effects he likes pretty juicy and some cool things happen but if I don’t pay attention to the flags I could hit a red one red ones. tend to hurt hmm yeah there’s there’s so much there to unpack and it does seem like you know reality has this way of reminding us kind of where we are on our.

journey as as we start to create these intentions for intentions for ourselves but you know my real question is is it becomes a little bit complex to me. because then you know we get into this idea of are are we choosing you know is is there this freewill aspect to things or you know is how does. this work is it the illusion of choice that I have and am i is it you know this predestined in this preset place that that I’m going.

how does that work yeah that’s the guys that’s the philosophical armwrestling Grand Challenge these days people talk about the F free will or not and I’ve given that quite a bit of thought first? my first answer is yes we have free will and that means if you are being inspired to do something that inspirations coming from what I’m calling the great.

something but you don’t have to follow it if free will you can say no you can say no to the universe and you can say no thanks not me give it to the next. person you are completely free to do that now my side insight is when you do say no to the universe you miss out on winning the lottery so to speak because.

that inspiration is going to bring some sort of magnificent miraculous magic to you and when I say lotto I don’t mean that the cash prize but some sort of. satisfaction that is very deep it is more than a bodily felt just that felt good to do it’s more of a complete life experience satisfaction and that could. be as simple as a woman gets inspired open a bakery because she likes cooking dog cookies or something and she does it and says yes there’s a fulfillment there.

that isn’t there otherwise but she has free will she can say now I don’t really want to open a bakery that’s a little too complicated so I I see that’s the. first level but here’s the most recent thought I’ve had about this and I haven’t shared this publicly anywhere but I thought to myself when people are in an argument about having free will or.

not and there’s somebody saying you know you don’t have free will you just simply don’t have free will and they’re adamant about it I could look at him and say. change your mind about that go ahead change your mind because if they have free will they should be able to change their mind hmm if they don’t have free. will they’re going to be stuck thinking and believing that statement so just it’s a little rough but at the same time I think there’s something they’re for the people who really say I?

don’t know I I totally believe that there’s climate change that’s gonna destroy us all in the next 20 years I might say okay if you’re free will don’t. believe that mm-hmm and they will find it very difficult I think it’s because in some ways free will is an illusion I think that we are being led by the nose.

by the great something to what end I don’t have any idea I’m here as an actor on the play to write it’s so profound I mean I you know there’s so many. different directions that we could go we could spend all night on this subject alone and try to figure this out but I think we would just end up in this sort.

of circle talking about the same thing so let’s let’s move forward you know let’s talk about fear let’s talk about you know something that people face often but you know let’s let’s make it a. little bit interesting let’s talk about your fear Joe I mean what is what is something that you are truly afraid of. what an interesting question you mean right now just something that you you know that’s that’s in your thoughts something that that you think about that?

is you would you know classify as a fear maybe you know maybe if you were external to yourself and maybe you if you were counseling someone that is you? know under your teaching maybe you would have a different answer than your own behavior for what a fascinating question and I am being transparent and I am. taking that in and I’m going to answer that in a truly authentic way so at this point in time as you’re interviewing me I’m going through a divorce now that is.

the most emotional cathartic expense of traumatic uncomfortable is it a strong enough word to describe how dark and unpleasant this experience has there’s everything from grief to guilt. to regret there have good nights that I considered taking my own life and I wasn’t close enough to do that and no enough tools to pull away from that but. to be candid those thoughts were there I loved quarter to lost my father during this as well I have had one relative who.

did try to commit suicide also recently and so I am in a place where I am entirely recreating my life going in a new direction ending a long-term? relationship actually beginning a new relationship doing it at age 65 which also is mind boggling to at least me because I thought well at age 65 I’ve. done it all I’ve created my Empire I have worked decades to create this Kingdom that I have and I’ve been in an apartment for the last eight months so.

there is that that is going on that is very real and very raw now as I tell you this and I’ve never talked about it with this depth through. this extent I also want to say that there were a couple times on social media Instagram or Twitter where I posted a couple short videos and I was. doing it to tell people look social media is an illusion you see happy faces you see people partying and dancing you see funny little clips of animals and babies and.

you see me and you see me from time to time smiling as big as can be but you don’t know that five seconds before that I may have been in tears and five. seconds after that was photo was taken I may have been in tears what you see is an illusion because we only share and pose the very best of what’s going on in.

our lives in a sense it’s an ego trip and we’re wanting likes and applause to say hey look how great you’re doing so we cherry pick our life moments but I. posted a couple where I was saying life is not that fantastic for me all the time so I’ve been learning a lot from Stoics and stoicism and marcus. aurelius and Ryan holiday and all those guys and they are actually helping me survive yeah they’re helping me survive and I’ve shared that on social media as.

well pointing out everybody I wrote a song that’s it’s a big deal it’s there’s a lotta there’s a music video about it and. was in Rolling Stone magazine and all of that it was called everybody’s going through something and I wrote that everything I think in 2012 but boy oh? boy I did not know just how much people are going through and I didn’t know just how much I would go through everybody is going through something.

including me wow wow wow Joe what a what a powerful moment in this interview you know it felt like I. could hear a pin drop just in that moment that we just had and created and I you know I sincerely deeply appreciate your authenticity and your willingness? to be open and vulnerable in this moment here with us and everyone that is listening and everyone that will hear this episode I’m sure they will appreciate that openness from you.

because you know sometimes it’s easy to look up to our heroes and regard them as impervious you know they’re invincible they you know we it’s it’s a. misconception you know we’re all human we all have our our faults are our things you know that that make us human and remind us that we are human so you. know I I sincerely sincerely appreciate your your ability to really be open with us you know here now I am you know I want to talk to you about you know like.

when let’s talk about relationships let’s talk about when two people feel like they’re falling in love it’s it’s a good segue with with what you’re talking about you know so meningococcal? yeah that’s another big question yeah welcome I thought you’re one of the most thoughtful and intriguing getting in-depth interviews I’ve ever done over the last few decades so this is a joy.

and at the same time you have me dancing on my toes to keep up with you so relationships I’ve been in to long-term relationships both of them lasted 20. years which I think I should get a medal for that and now you know third one I don’t know that that’ll last 20 years because I’m 65 but who knows you know I.

don’t want to put a limiting belief on myself my lifespan or relationships but I’ve often wondered especially over the last eight nine months is up going through this separation that people do. drift apart and the very people that might be coming together because of a magnetism that they may not even understand themselves yes there’s some mutual interests and yes there may be.

physical attraction and yes there may be something esoteric surface that’s simmering that’s bringing them together at some point that may just simply dissolve mmm I don’t know that that’s a. bad thing my parents stayed together 60 some years and I don’t know they were happy most of that time I think the old-school people did you know our. parents and grandparents probably stayed together until the death because they took that oath and because they were afraid to do anything else and despite it all they just kept biting their teeth.

and maybe not talking to each other and not being intimate with each other but still live together because they just force themselves to get through it I’m. toying with writing a book called win truths collide when truths collide and the idea behind it is if two people who. are together and a happen together for a very long time start to drift apart because of an organic very natural interest in something else not necessarily somebody else but?

something else then they will probably not be able to easily be together I think that there’s something that’s more natural and organic and loving to allow that unfoldment I don’t know that that’s. really easy because if both people in the relationship start to drift apart and they’re not really honest with themselves one or the other may be very bitter that may be very resentful they.

may still want to hold on to the known but then I got to take a helicopter and not even a helicopter we have to go in outer space and look down mmm at this. whole concept and start to realize that look life has an eponym Evan flow to it but doesn’t necessarily fit the legal parameters of marriage there is an.

epinephrine a higher perspective and from a universal life span that is saying it is quite natural to drift apart it may be natural to stay together till the end as well I’m not dismissing. that we’re just having this freeform dialogue and I’m sharing some thoughts right including the idea that hey at some point truths may collide and you may drift apart right and that’s okay.

right and you know in it it really seems like you know back to you know this greater awareness of this larger picture this very mystical unknown about you. know what our lives are and the direction of them and you know maybe what we even reflect into ourselves as. what success may or may not be you know I mean there are people who have tons of money but they are bored unhappy and you know on the verge of suicide so you know?

money isn’t everything and I think I think also importantly to know you know in in the regard of relationships and those types of experiences when you know. when we experience that sort of disconnect there’s there’s a healing there’s a profound healing that’s that’s required where we look into ourselves and we’re learning to love ourselves? again right so you know what would you offer in those terms in the in the terms of healing trauma and looking at ourselves with love and compassion yeah big big questions again.

from my own personal experience and over the decades of working with different people as you know as a coach to them or mentor to them or hearing from them and. they read my books and listen to the audios I would say that the number one thing that we all need to relearn including myself is a self appreciation. a self approval a self acceptance I want to say self love but too many people rushing in with that’s all ego and I’m not talking about an ego I’m talking.

about a healthy respect for yourself a healthy grading of your life and everything you’ve done all the decisions you’ve made with an acceptance with a non-judgmental loving appreciation and. the bigger word that I’ve been holding back to bring in here for the right moment is forgiveness and it’s not forgiving anybody else I mean that’s part of the. picture and we always talk about forgiving somebody who caused the trauma or drama or the people we blame for certain things there is a forgiveness we need to do there but the bigger.

forgiveness is a forgiveness to ourselves to each of us a forgiveness to myself part of what I’ve wrestled with. when I said you know guilt and resentment grief is a self punishment that was coming from a lack of forgiveness to me we will be more empowered we will be happier we will be? healthier when we forgive ourselves for what we have deemed wrong that is the the big lesson it’s the self-acceptance of appreciation and forgiving ourselves to get there.

yeah yeah it’s resounding Joe I mean I this this conversation is such taking such a deep turn I knew it would be a powerful conversation but I had no idea. that we would go here and you know have such a moment so many moments of so much wisdom that you know you’re offering there there are some questions that we.

should probably get started on now okay so here we go so Alec asks if you were to wake up naked in the middle of a city with a hundred dollars and no knowledge? in anything other than the basics of what you preach how would you go from that point of being wealthy and of that point to being wealthy enough to buy.

that city to buy that city yes that would so yes well what a wonderfully constructed question I wake up nude with a hundred dollars but at the end of a certain. period of time I own the city so wow this is cool you can get some amazing listeners here well I would go back Robert Alan did the challenge 20-some.

years ago it might have been longer I don’t know he’s the real estate guy and the books called the challenge I would tell people to go read it cuz it’s still. around it’s always inspired me and he was the guy who would say give me five people from any unemployment line as long as they have a driver’s license I.

will have them owning land in 30 or 90 days and then we’ll have $5,000 in the bank they will know how to create their reality that will be empowered and? they’ll be able to be in business and the LA Times followed him wrote about him he’s also the guy that did another challenge where he said take away my.

wallet leave me with $100 and my driver’s license drop me in any fairly mid-sized city and I will own property in 30 days and I will be making money. from it and again he did that so I know that these things are possible in this particular case it’s bothering me that I wake up nude can’t even have underwear.

have to wake up noon this is $100 just get it I’m gonna run to the local store and buy pants I’m probably thinking like I render the goodwill mission and run to. the hello I’m Brenda another homeless person and say hey do you have an extra pair of pants I understand homeless people are pretty nice to other homeless people so I’d.

probably be there but but I mean Joe I think if I if I can speak for Alec maybe he was talking about the later stages of you know that that aspect of wealth. creation when you know you’re managing multi-level aspects of you know like a business and corporation well let’s back up a little bit because I want to make.

sure I answer his question okay I’ve often said that an answer to homelessness is empowering people and one of the ways to empower them first is with inspiration letter than letting. them know I and others were homeless and we got out of it so you can – the second. is is by leveraging the internet and I’ve said look even if you’re broke the public library has computers the public library will let you use them for free?

you can go online so you can start to begin a business but what business what you do the third thing is I would tell people to look at their life experience. and their education their interest in their hobbies trying to find what they do that might be unique that they can turn into a digital product that could. be an e-book that could be an audio book that can be a video book if it’s just done at the library on the computer it.

can very easily be an e-book you just type it up and I have met many people? who thought I have nothing to offer and I talked to one person and he said well I in the past time my past time I raised Tomatoes oh okay that’s a product there? are people who do not know how to raise tomatoes those people are your audience so you even if you’re a beginner at raising Tomatoes would be writing your?

little ebook on how to raise Tomatoes with the idea that you’re going to be offering it to the beginners that are below you I’ve met a woman one time and. I was exploring the same thing saying okay she wanted to make money she had no money she heard you can do it on the internet and as I talked to her she.

said that she had taught herself how to play the guitar and I said okay how did you do that she says well I just figured out that and rather than making full. chords I just make chords out of my two fingers so I made scaled-down chords and I said that’s brilliant turned that into a little digital product on how to learn.

to play the guitar and you know a weekend with only two fingers hmm and she did making money so this is the direction I would go in and then to. answer your question once it got bigger I’m a big fan of delegating I do not know at all I don’t know how to build websites I don’t know the techie side of.

most of the Internet I’m more of a copy guy and more of a content creation kind of a person and so I do what is my strength and I delegate out what I need. done giving it to people who find it their joy to do mm-hmm I’d be doing things like yeah I think that’s that actionable advice I like that answer.

um and like I said I mean we we have some amazing listeners that are highly into intellectual so this question you know it kind of goes in that same vein. this is from berbils he he asks at this time do you have a clear understanding of what works and how to get there like as as a professional athlete might or is.

it still fuzzy sort of cheerleader hype and that’s what he that’s who he wants to know I love the question I have a very clear answer and a very clear. practical way let me give you a quick summation of this I’m a fan of brain science I’m a fan of fan of neuroplasticity I’m a fan of learning. how the brain operates to get what we want in general our reticular activating system the RAS in the back of our brain?

is already programmed to bring us into survival it’s on alert to tell us if there’s any dangers in the room and that’s where our fear shows up? that’s where our weary worry shows up because it’s alerting us to that what most people don’t know is that you can program the reticular activating system to go for what you do want so the very.

first step very real scientifically proven repeatedly done by millions of people by now certainly by me and written about in my various books state your intention what do you want to have. do or beat and you have to do it with clarity you have to pretend that this intention is going right to the hands of gods so to speak or if you were gonna?

order a coat and you went to the department store you wouldn’t say give me a coat you would say give me this color give me the style give me the size. and give it to me by Wednesday so the intention is the very first thing the second thing is you want to make it image some sort of graphical. representation because your brain responds to images it’s not enough just to write it out in the intention you need a photo a graphic and art piece this is why vision boards are so talked.

about by everybody from Oprah to the people that were in the secret a vision board is a board where you put the examples of what you want to attract. into your life it could be a car could be a house it could be money it could be a relationship so you want some sort of visual because the brain responds to the.

visual this is a fact the next is you want to look at your visual with an emotion because the emotion fires the brain and turns on the neurons that it. will activate the reticular activating system to alert you to ways to to achieve it so you need to be able to look at it with emotion but the emotion? most people have is fear or worry or hate as I mentioned in the beginning of our wonderful interview here I said you want to focus on what you love the thing.

that you’re wanting to attract should be something you’re passionate about it should be something you’re excited about so when you look at the image or you look at your intention you’re actually. feeling a rousing juicy exciting emotion if you look at it you don’t care or you’re flat then you haven’t found what you actually want these things all activate the brain and.

then the third thing is repetition the brain responds to repetition if you want to learn anything you just keep repeating it and they’re all memorize the song or the poem by the foreign. language or whatever it happens to be this is why so many people are told put up your vision board or write down your intentions and look at a morning noon.

and night my reputation these steps are concrete scientific proven to work take them to the bank mm-hmm yeah I love it I love it Joe and I love those practical. tips that you know I could soak those up all day you know I wanna switch gears again and I know we’ve gone and you know with some some in different angles with.

this interview and so you know with with all due respect Joe I mean no disrespect whatsoever I value your work very highly so but I want I have to be real with. this I have to be real about the way that I feel with this and in my own authenticity you know I want to ask about you know this this sort of.

industry of you know let me pay me money to teach you how to make money right so I mean there’s of course you know that some people can afford that and God. bless them you know but I you know see but do you think there could be this is the industry that you’re in I’m sure with I mean there was there’s I could.

drop names I don’t want to but I’m sure there are some seedy practices in that vein of operation right so you know how. do you feel about that and if you could address that please yeah it’s a wonderful question and I appreciate you being so honest about it I am not in favor of that kind of? manipulation of people’s situations or their feelings or their despair I am all about inspiring people to get their results I have given away and still give away so much because I was homeless I.

was in poverty I know that sting I know what it’s like the starve and be insecure and be worried even in terror and to be suicidal because of those worries I wrote a book? called attract money now I give it away it said attract money now calm why do I give it away it is a complete book with seven steps in it seven steps that I.

have used to help people attract money no matter where they’re at the very first step is involving their mindset because I don’t think they can get anywhere until the mindset is cleared up. you can feed people all kind of principles and practices but if at the heart of their soul they don’t think they deserve it or they think money is.

bad or they don’t think they are going to ever achieve anything because that they are lacking in some way they will sabotage their own efforts to success so. I give away attract money now.com my secret hope is once they read it and apply it don’t have money and then they’ll come back and they’ll buy. coaching with me or other books by me or you know come to an event or something at that point but I don’t want anybody ever to be so broke that they’re putting.

their last dime in on somebody who has promised that that dime is gonna turn into Millions I’m not that guy I don’t endorse anybody. who was doing that and I have a long list of things I give away free attract money now is just one of them to help those people who are actually in a place? where they can’t help themselves otherwise that’s what I’m in favor of doing you know reach down and help people and then hopefully they’ll pass it forward and they’ll help other people?

when they get off their off the ground – mm-hmm I love that I love that you know you you pay it forward because that’s you know that’s the sort of the law of? things you know that’s the sort of that’s the best way that you can connect with the the higher purpose or the higher power and kind of wake up and.

look at yourself in the mirror and accept that unless I mean unless unless you you know widely speaking it seems like there is this I don’t know you know. this this spiritual war that’s that’s happening on this planet against you know light and dark and it almost seems like the dark is winning so now more. than ever it’s important for us to be as real as possible to give to those that are less fortunate than we are and you know really be.

present as much as we can we do need to shine our light there is a war going on the dark is not winning the light is winning but all of us need to turn on. our brightest inner spotlight in fact there’s a meditation that I can just describe it and people can do it whenever they like it’s the idea of pretending that there is like a pilot.

light inside their chest a dot of life like at the end of the tunnel or if they know the old furnaces and ovens where there’s a little bit of a light there. that the kindling has started but there’s not a big blaze and so they look at that little bit of light in their chest but doesn’t start to imagine that.

it expands because you turn up the gas or you add more logs to it or just with your intention you imagine it gets brighter and brighter and then treating. it as a kind of a meditation that bright light begins to expand in your entire body where the light goes down into your legs it goes into your feet it goes up.

into your chest it goes into your arms it goes into your neck it goes into your head until you become this being of light and then as this being of light. start to imagine that it is way to eating out from you like radiating from your aura and going out and touching other auras and we can keep expanding. this even right now with all the people listening if they can just pretend and play with this little image and see this fire of love this light emulating from.

me and from you and then from everybody else on here that it’s expanding too it’s reaching everybody that’s on the call and then all the people who aren’t. on the call and all the people and their neighbors and the family until the whole planet is ablaze with light and as we know we don’t have to do anything to get.

rid of the dark all we have to do is turn on the light mm-hmm-hmm there’s there’s actually a really great analogy that I heard you know if if you just if. you just take you know a dark room and you walk into it you know and you light in the center of that room one single candle it will you know it will to fill.

that that room but if you if you try to do the opposite you know if you try to take darkness if you try to take a dark room. and apply it you know to light it it just doesn’t work it doesn’t work in the same way so I mean Joe we’re we’re wrapping this up I mean it we’re a.

little bit over its flew by you know I’d love for you to sort of take all of this together and you know tie it into a bow. you’re a fantastic speaker so you know maybe the larger message or larger purpose for the the you know the the long-term view of a person’s life and. their meaning and all those things well I want to remind people that the miracle is now it’s not in the past as nice as it might have been it’s not in the.

future it’s nice as we want it to be the past and if you do not exist except as mental constructs all we have is this moment I mean literally this moment is. the miracle and then realize that you are in this moment you are part of the miracle all of life is this wonderful puzzle and I have a piece to play when I.

play my piece my puzzle fits into the game of life and when you play your piece your part fits into the game of life and then life begins to work so I. encourage people to tune in to their soul look for those green flags follow their passion trust the great something and realize this is the miracle I’m so. powerful I mean this it really does seem that you you know you are teaching people to be aware of the science of miracles and you know you’re you’re.

giving it a science and it’s it’s needed more than ever now it really is so Joe I mean here’s here’s your chance you know you want to plug I mean I know I do is. there a tour coming up or you’re going to be speaking anywhere I know you’ve got a bunch of different books in the work I know there’s a there’s a master class.

that people can attend with you where is the website how do people get there is there is there a certain book zero point. which which one would you like to recommend yeah Wow I do so many things or in so many books so much music it’s it’s tough to just say one thing I have? a website called vitaly life mastery calm by tallies my last name vit a le vie tally life mastery calm there.

are courses there there are free courses their introduction to miracles attracting money there’s all kind of things that are absolutely free or only cost five or seven dollars my books are? on Amazon books like zero limits have been incredibly popular the awaken millionaire is popular the attractor factor that I mentioned a couple times. are popular my musics on iTunes Amazon Spotify everywhere the album I was referring to is called the great something and the book I was saying anybody can have for free is attract?

money now just go to attract money now dot-com or it’s also at bite alley life mastery calm and I just want to thank everybody for listening and thank you. for inviting me Godspeed to all of you I am incredibly grateful to be part of this journey ah thank you so much Jose hang tight for me we just do the outro.

here thank you so much guys what an amazing credible credible interview I mean Jose work is truly resounding I can’t recommend it enough I mean there’s there’s so much of this that he puts. into a science and a formula that sometimes we need we need that formula we need and we’re missing that gap in our minds so I do recommend picking up a.

copy of any number of his books that that are available awaken millionaire is a really really good one but that’s that’s gonna do and you will make those. links available in the in the description of this video and in on the website so that’s gonna do it for us here if you made it to the end. thank you so very much if you are not subscribed to us on YouTube you’re listening to this on youtube click subscribe click the bell so you’re notified when we go live if you’re.

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