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Kingsley, my good sir, welcome to HXP.
Kingsley, you seem to have such an interesting life. You’ve moved around to a couple different countries. You’ve taken some odd jobs just to see if you could pursue your writing career. I mean, how did you go through that? Walk us through that a little.
So I begin with being blessed. I see from a very early age, do you delusion that I wanted to write about things, and to learn about the world? So actually, at the first opportunity at the University, I decided to go wander the world. In order to do so, I had to pay my way. So I decided to take attention in different countries, and I took sociology. Why? Because I wanted to learn about the world I was moving around, so been fascinated by different cultures. So my most memorable time was the five years I spent to be stumbled and understanding around the alien world. And I realized that sociology, especially, I think the systems theory. And the system is the ideal resolution I found. So with some of the the Oriental teachings, the streams brain fact, I think Western science was trying to look at it from a different perspective. So eventually I decided to come back. And after about teaching to really get into study of social systems, our consciousness as human development, evolution streams, which more or less to our antedate that.
I love your writing style. It cuts like a knife. I just want to read the passage, the back passage of your book: “The struggle for your mind within society, there exists a silent war. The battlefield is our everyday lives: our education, our work and leisure are emotional and spiritual well-being, and our thinking and perceptions are very sense of reality, is deliberately engineered to work against conscious evolution and preserve social norms. In short, we are all part of a war of consciousness and the opportunities at hand for us to win”.
Wow! Sounds good on paper! Yeah, yeah, I mean what motivates you to write about this type of subject?
Well, Xavier, I think the best will, because element being done to you, that from a very early age, I really sensed that something wasn’t quite weight loss. And that is, the thing that we call reality was nonsense media. So, I think that underlies all of my searching, is trying to get, And what set the course of it is, really, what we try to understand. This human consciousness from the everything goes back to human consciousness. The way that we perceive the world around us, our beliefs sets really makes up world that we inhabit. So, you know, if anyone around us believes something, we tend to fall into that. And it’s when you look into it, effect so easy for conditioning, both social conditioning and mental conditioning to take place. In fact, it always takes, since it seems the earliest days of civilization. Once you have civilization, you have to have kind of consensus reality, and quite exercises become.
You then have the hierarchy of leaders, which then has to make sure that the masses kind of fit into that system. And so, you have distinguished social engineering to get more to what’s always been around us, as far as is. The thank you note Scott subject to consciousness. And so, really it’s a science pretty, so the basis for our reality set so right is more malleable, then has to taking credit for writing some of the men. Science is coming out now without understanding of the quantum science, is not the universe of emotion.To give us tools to understand how flexible and malleable reality singes both, you know, really controls how you think, controls you, puts into your mind and friends of consciousness, were verify have a great influence upon your reality. It’s as simple as that!
Yeah, I mean, you talk about the illusion of freedom, and how, if a part of the prisoner never sees the bars, how can he know that he’s in a prison? Yet, is that, I was, like, to use in captivity, because I think our productivity these days is so smooth, has been engineered to be that so we don’t notice it. We don’t. An empty seat, because it’s a smoother ride to stay in the consensus reality you have. And so, we don’t wish to everything around us. And we have, also, part of how society is being essay developed. If you wish to go back to Malta’s nuclear, put the idea that people now can quiet the very things that once they produced. And so we have the most material goods to keep us comfortable. And before the age-old global information, that was, more or less, enough window pockets of protest, but it was enough to keep us into the system. I think what’s happening now, as I outlined, instrument for your mind, because when such a moment to bifurcation point, of come in contention is because we are receiving so much more information, which is showing in the bonds about present and that is upsetting. You say the these stages are the core of our society, is because when you beginning to see beyond the smooth captivity and that is in one sense tool for empowering people individually.
But it’s also true for rocking the boat. And so I think in the used, and possibly a day in decades this kind of melting pot of information communication technologies, below information technology, is human empowerment connectivity. Communication consciousness is really going over and no one knows what’s going up and that’s why it’s it’s exciting and also unstable times now.
Wow! I mean, I worked through this book and loved reading it. And I just felt like you are on playing with everything you had to say. Where you think coming there some systems of control, and you talk about misinformation that is a distraction for me, a technology mean. How wide and varied are the ways that we might not be in full control of our own minds? And what effect is it having on our own caught conscious evolution will load? Is this the thing that affects our minds? It doesn’t. Dozen old reason phrase epic, says you know you’re doing good, is still agreed. Which means, that is, which we think are hoping this other things, which may seem altruistic, such as spiritual belief systems, maybe systems which are still part of the problem with the past. I think it was quite sources of this controller, much easier to spot take. An example, you societies it was much more a piece you kind of programming. For example, if these citizen did something concrete to the Marquis, to the government alternation that was busy, be punished, it could be tied to post in the square. They could be put into change. They can even be guillotined. All kinds of executed prolific and that gives everyone wanting to stay in that place. Don’t mess with the system. It’s a unique one we got today and I’m sure some probably like for people to oppose something that can you can’t get away with it. You know, so-called democratic societies opposite. So it’s so much to know, so much more smooth way of doing it. And we don’t notice, and it’s kind of like function creep fiction to allow up message, and everything from school, to everything our peers. And I think one of the problems with having today, I see around this, is that one I think quite dangerous is spirituality itself.
And I think this is a point, which is one point site, is that there has been incredible commercialization of spiritual things. Even if we mentioned the New Age movement, which was coming on the end of the great essay emergence of transcendental technologies, and pathways that came into the West up to second. I think have become in a sense, hijacked, as well commercialized. And, in fact, a lot of these spiritual technologies today, I will see you as a way of kind of brain entrainment, and they are using the sins of cognitive science to try to get us to believe in. So in some ways it is not as clear-cut about what affects is on. So, in terms of the question you asked about conscious evolution, I would say that goes back to something very fundamental, which is we have to trust our intuition. We have to trust it.
Timothy Leary said that we all have an inbuilt Bluetooth detected. Started hiking was his crime to the cheeky chap, your way of saying that we have these inbuilt of conscience intuition sharing, which I I think is coming to a lot more, especially in the younger generation today. I see coming out. because they’re the generation less easy to fall. They are questioning systems and authority in constructing, so I think we have to go back 12 sounds, really in a quite stock way and question everything that we believe. In coming in contact with, and I’m trying to strip away a lot of old. The package comes with living in a very dense, rich and overflowing, informationally one society.
It’s very intriguing. In the same book, “Struggle For The Clear Mind”, you talk about mechanisms in the brain that are emerging that allow near genetic evolution that will help us throw off these kinds of mental prison. I mean, what is near genetic evolution? How does a mechanism work? And I mean, how can we free ourselves?
Another loaded question. You like to request genetic evolution because, I think we are learning a lot more about human genetics. A recently and special without understanding the genetics that previously assigned told that genetic differentiation. All the segmentation of code of generations in the largest part of time by the devolution you recorded with the genetics. We are learning that genomes can actually be influence and change within the lifetime and intergenerational, which can also be passed on. And so the question is, what influences human genes? And I think when I looked into its effect, it was a lot of the old wisdom traditions in the biophysics. The reason biophysics hasn’t investigated how the bio photos are magic by our DNA. And without physical souls, and these phones a few AA ask, like, quantum field probably, which is a way of information. Some information being passed intense, you information field, and so this by different to make field is also in residents to the pharaohs influences and such. As they say, Sam’s certain sound waves which would relate to the science of mantras and stickers certain spiritual techniques also, as well. And so I mentioned, for example, about place which have a specific color orientations, such as use of stained-glass windows in churches, and also the colors in rooms. And so sacred buildings have a certain note, special structure, and sacred to genetics, which also can affect vibrations in the atmosphere. So these things which we thought thousands perhaps being fringe sciences can have a very definite affect impact upon field, and limited foods which are part of our DNA structure. So if one goes into meditation, you know, there’s been lots of research on EKG brain scans about Halloween coming to entrainment synchronization operations but it wasn’t yet the technologies.
Look how DNA fields are being affected. But I do feel that these mechanics that say spiritua,l says those meditation using sounds using colors, which have been used in these wisdom traditions.I can have a marked effect upon our genetic state. So there’s a sense that we can coming to one of being called meta-programming inviting there was a sense and this was touched upon it in America 60s with scientist. Like totally what the isolation tanks again to look at this and then several of his mistake quit meta-programming psychedelics way that we can consciously try to work in programming the very structure develops something up and intelligence purchase human body that can work towards, that say about opening up our own latent faculties and then capacities, which it really is no already been out in the mainstream much more.
How would you — there’s a subchapter in your book where you talk about decoding the Armageddon. Why do you think this 2012 sort of, I mean, why is Armageddon and the obsession with zombies and vampires and the end of the world. Why is that being said into the mass unconscious mind 2012 moment?
That was quite a spectacle and you know the day after think that was a lot of people sitting around thinking well what didn’t happen nothing you are not week that was in that mean, you know, and I think about when it came from. Of course we know the origin of 2012 the mankind, and I think that has authentic base but like many things that are out in the public sphere the gets hijacked, and we do have this comment in times of mentality. we have, in times of weakness. You go back to the biblical talk of of the apocalypse, how was people. And so what it does is that it will select send us, and fear is a great weakness. It went. It weakens our electromagnetic field. That’s been verified, to make his own immune system she being verified, but also it allows, when you have a sense of fear, that we need security. So books of history, when we don’t feel we haven’t ourselves, we reach out to outside authority. So it also puts us effectively a kind of disadvantaged. And so the 2012 Armageddon, was really to disempower his other troops and means which would trying to struggle through. About 2012 we’ll be open ourselves, eccentrics. It was a whole wave of disinformation which would, I think, be the key being put into massive public consciousness so of course when he deflated, and thing was that it kind of put us sort through whole thing. Them just said, we know it was wrong is not going to be these vibrations to fifth. I mentioning up to be saved by people coming to get the planet. What you not going to use you, and so in a way of people felt deflated, quite depressed and when we know we want to go back and security status quo.
You know the story active in the book about the weekend Pomona? You know about how we are allowed to grant weekends, and alcohol is legal? A great time, you know we get completely your. We have the a while our heads because the Monday morning with to go back to the status quo system, because would happen you know that was the same technique, which was used, for example. And slave plantations. I did example from all the text from one of the free slave writers, said that over the slaves were given money be used on the plantation shops, that time off, such as Christmas, the money was spent by rules whiskey. And the slaves were allowed to have a blowout to get absolutely out of it for several days, central the end of it that will want to get back into work to get together and how.
Just one example was Frederick of the right to the verify that is a weekend Pomona that so that’s the substances on North American society because the ashes stimulate newsrooms stimulate our experiences and then was not we have a different reality perspective that isn’t good for going back into the system of the things that alcohol the job is some was wanting to this human biology and just had about over the years there is now because that it was a blog networks we want to go back system and more so. there are the things that is where
Very intriguing. I mean, they were covering a lot here. Very quickly, I just I want to get into kind of “Winning the War” and in it you talk about there is nothing to fear and that me to you think that we will eventually win this war?
I really don’t know about that ,that for me something which I’m still to this field is why I often prefer to speak about this window will and out of old strictly online is the radio one that goes into the dark side of about manipulations and technologies that controlled the work that she examines the do. I think the rise of human consciousness over that over the the the decades I mean notion of consciousness into the future so I definitely winning it because if you look again 20th-century looks like he’s been they this the century of the greatest will fact in terms of the landscape Innocenti with great exploration innovation and experimentation of this human in the landscape and not you know have the rise of that say transcendental technologies the rise of experimentation would was with the inner landscape in whatever form it may take.
we most haven’t told talk about because before let’s say psychoanalysis and formed in Jan right we didn’t have much was to talk about in the world have subconscious we haven’t is your ego so now what happens language with had a sensuous of spiritualism we now have scientist lamentably experiences in verifying this we have esoteric subjects which will belong to Mr. schools before and now publicly available literature is available talking about it but we have this conversation now we can talk about consciousness in a way that few a few decades ago on subjects. we can talk about have not even talk about tonight, is landscape of this human body has really expanded tremendously I think this is a sign that there is a different shift in human evolution which we couldn’t consciousness. and so what is important now is that we concoct in our evolution as a species in our societies and have more control of instead of being of evolutionary forces.
so now I think we come into a different plane and see what was going to do that plane for now is no less by both sides those who say in control of photosynthesis to ourselves to be you and technologies community that is what, which is, his groups helping you try that working without he is experimenting and ginning to get that I feel that there is a greater so weights communal now to to self-exploration which will that before we can win this mean.
All of your books seem kind of from all around this mean. In breaking the spell, you talk about overcoming this social conditioning and this disconnection from University. What are the some of the ways that you would say would be useful in helping someone trees themselves to connect to life more ?
is the greatest to you, this to you start to be asking the right questions and asking questions be ready to you say we go to prison and Lucy the boss so the fasting to say that we realize that we are in a reality said that is socially engineered not be apprentice just that the ego at in its place you know we have to surviving these physical were I don’t support going into a cave in been we in this world is a certain amount of this condition around. but it’s being a way of the conditioning and when it’s operate them just take a step back.
But I think of those in the industry for your mind and in another work break and spell you mentioned a talk about some techniques, such as stepping away website.
We can learn to recognize what is distracting around us and to put down my back from that destruction know outage I gave is is a drowning person analogy is person is drowning in the ocean the first we actually have used to drop that it’s not that I’m trying to send and this drowning person is like society the detritus the distracting and if we go out and win not prepared drowning possible that once you and cost estimate reported to, because the stroking. And I think the social systems Australia you can see that because their trying to make so much noise to distract, because they know that you know. we see in them that we are the “Emperor has no clothes” making more noise. But if we go with the New Orleans, we got with drowning persons they like to put down postcards, say that you should trade because of going out that.
So I would say these events, these systems, your attention, because they’re addictive. And we did an amount of stepping back, putting about our minds, going back to our attention, away from the minds, of what information we receive. Information programs this information. That’s always negative. That brings us down. That poses in what information times a week using listeners out instant let’s use our lives how to detect and without those terms of information that we feel listening this know we have to be more discerning episode all that we were consumers concerns of information because information was one-way television. It is before that the radio. now we can be proactive. Information is not one way. It’s noted we can go out there. Would just some of the information we process consumes any information? And I think that we should take a much more active role about what we want to engage with, what we want to receive. You into us and led to step away and distance ourselves from the rest. And I think we have to be more aware of this, and aware of where our partridges line, because what we take can’t be the part about programming.
And we are not role and gender possibility to communicate. Your words cut. As much as you know these on your book in your book, as much as in this interview. And I love everything you’re saying! Do you feel as if, I mean, like, you said when you see a person drowning and tend to kind of be in the sphere state? And they bring you down with them? And you feel like leaving a sort of solitary lifestyle as a cure for that?
Everything should be taken in moderation. Anything extreme is not good for you. If you have a headache you have to submit, OK, get desperate hundred penicillins in other to wake up. So everything is going to be moderation. If you feel you need a moment of solitary peace, take it! I think being alone and having something must is healthy. You should not be afraid to be alone, admission not be afraid of science, because the world’s first checked. Guys, I don’t think that we should be sort to our lives, like we should last responsibility to make the choices when we need something, like being a know. And how much of it is a say in the next extreme anything? What is good about this is not used the work of what we know we need. So what someone else will work first solution we should understand speak to sometimes we may want to help someone but that moment becoming help because you know within the Internet in a state where they just don’t listen to is a letter resonate and if we stay with MDMA field of interest being drained. So we have to be back at some people, up our mission in the book that they can become.
Like psychic vampires left in the way, they may not mean it but they may be something just because they’re in a proactive state yet, or state of relaxation, so it wouldn’t agreed. and then said, “OK, that’s enough! I need to step back and maintain my own state and develop don’t have to make some efforts to to come around to information and so so you know we have to be aware of our own state and take care of ourselves the same time you mean. If you look at the world, and you look at the political landscape mantra for following what’s happening here in the states it’s kind of absurd. If you just look at what’s going on around us, it really does seem like we’re on the precipice of something else, something you are not sure of.
It’s the end of an era or the beginning of new one?
It seems more like the beginning of one, but, I mean, what you think about, that how do you think, weird you think we are in this phase of human history, and we are beginning all over. And Euphrates and in these phase transitions, to use a term from Québec sciences and is a distance of information, because these two systems, only you are clashing again. To give a visual example, if Stonehenge is upon, you get nipples, go out of. So tombstones in the two sets of ripples was those. When they need each other they have to interfere with the cash ripples break up. I think this is happening now. The immune system is coming in both the human consciousness, and into the social domain discussion with the old. And so heaven’s disruption brain facts. And, in fact, if you look at these the dynamics, OK also disruption produce energy, which is, in fact, necessary for bringing new system. This type of Existence, as she plays out in social systems, in cellular biological systems, as well, and is a basis of life. And his energy is required, except I feel that our descendents look back at this time, and look at the work we been going through at the time to go through, and they won’t actually. This is because, important as the time that 20 moved from the front to the around us respect you, because centers happening now and it’s times that we going through the civilization disruption. Not just capacity. We want all of Empire equal blanc empires.
I feel that the heart is open despite what may look like in world affairs systems. I know financial systems rely on global trade. We have so many social systems, tray systems, documentation systems, that if you know if one goes down over 60. And so you know may seem in the critical systems is that the systems on this so-called democracy. I know I’m not functioning and you know that they had their role in functioning. So what we see on the television is that magicians like to have you create a destruction — one area you don’t like acting so well.
That’s so unfair! You know the entrance and kittens of the world. You know the pretty little noise in the trying to hide a broken system. And what we know, what we need to do, is really that is. I’ve been watching the debate solely on the arguments that he was called, that we should be looking at the the people who are talking about what systems out there, and I see smoke to the conversations from the younger generation. Very constructive about what’s up. VERY beautiful systems! You may have to wait a new generation for them to come up, but I wouldn’t take too much notice.
You say. you know, don’t look at work person, sex center actions, and that is the normal headlights. Let’s talk a little bit about your book “Dawn of the Kaushik Age”. What motivated you to write that?
I wrote in preparation with my calligraphy last and effect what came about was that had previously a book about 2012 about how did the change coming around 2012 not only only mean more of mankind was just playing to say. The system will be changing because, you know, the brains. Of the upcoming post music back to write a book about how systems will be in 2020, and to suggest that using a year-to-date, you know, 2012 is. Forget 2020. Rather than government-based think, that’s a good it reached what changes can we now see happening in the world around you. Ke$ha’s attempt to use before. I refer to the fixed fee wishes of old defeated time. You just talk about, at birth, want to fight for elements and the fifth element was a cash. They said Ke$ha is what we call the quantum. Click to see the underlying field. And so we want to look at how this understanding through science that we are part of a an eighth quantum. The entire universe. That the world is intended.
And so many ways in, like, field fool that what happens is going to occur around the world that understanding is base happened. See educational systems, systems financial, systems needing change in an adolescent country, civilization going through the birth pangs. It was happening. I sense that we are, as a species towards what may become up for debate, attempt a country civilization. But how we get good be different met you? I don’t consider the old are from stock. This kind collective, you truly blind society, writing that we going through for society, based on diversity, but based on it on a shared understanding of consciousness about how we get there. It is going to be decades ahead for us, and out generations to come to figure out. And that’s probably the great evolutionary challenge for our species.
Bang on! I love it! And love everything enough to say it may really seem like you are kind of one of those hidden authors that people have to kind look for and find. And we know that if we kind of found your material acts like soaking up. iI love it! I want to talk about your book “Meeting Monroe” because it seems like this book for you is the most powerful. That’s what I got from that. Do you want me to kind of give a little passage that you write about? it you once get into it is because it is very hot between. It’s like, I was there. I was going into. Here is a small passage: “It is difficult to clearly express what happened to me over the period of several weeks. It was both an intense and surreal experience. Even thinking about it now has me at a loss to give any credible explanation. It’s probably best that I don’t try to define or categorize what, in effect, was a series of startling and profound encounters. I have the feeling deep within that my meeting with the person I came to know as Monroe was not an accident. …”
And wow! That’s it sounds mysterious. I really want to know more.
Years why it’s, you know, which, for me, the hardest talk about, because, in fact, is a book which I feel I didn’t write, noticeable to be able talk about ideas that I’m trying to articulate with. Monroe is most personable because it happened to me, and my conversations with this person the right, but was known to Ms. Monroe. And the ideas expressed work better powerful. And the ideas are about, more or less, on the theme of ourselves as a species in our evolutionary journey and responsibility. Upon back and Québec that will many times, because 70 presages. I don’t remember because I disseminated ,might talk them down. I wrote them up. Might put them out. But I feel like they discussed through me. But so many times in my writings, in my talks, I realized that, in fact, this is still talking. Monroe was coming through, embedded in the pumps, iPod touch starting date.
But I think there are times in our lives we have to often catch, and they don’t Egypt. And if we absolutely think the right time process that, but that come up, they become a part of my own journey. I’m trying to understand how can we use old, consciously as a species, activity, individually and what that entails and how to articulate that, and where issue includes. The more I think we we tackle these issues and articulate, then discuss them shadows, and they impact our sector and impact how we perceive our environment, our perspectives on the world. And it won’t stop to shift accordingly. You know so much change can can occur from the inside out with means that we trigger. If we take responsibility to think in a different way, to speak a different way, to engage in a different way, that the lollapalooza perceiving the world around us does to shift and adjust accordingly.
I think that’s part of, maybe you want to pretend universe will all of you, matrix universe, however it was recorded. We are in a participate relationship with the world around us, so out deceptive says I will behavior. I’m thinking that will his apartment things are slated, so deceived, won’t stop to change mental apparatus, and that has a knock on effect with how we drop the world round. We have to start somewhere.
Beautiful! I love it! Kingsley, we’re approaching the end here. Manifest is there, you know. Is there one single thing through your writings or your experiences through your research that maybe someone who is listening to this show right now, that you could kind deliver a message to them? Is there something that you would kind of like to say that, if it was possible for me to have these journey, it is possible for any?
You know I came from normal family’s mortality, New England, and I just had a sense that I need to investigate things, and everybody could lead to capacity — anybody, Everybody can change. Anybody can start to evil that thinking passions is not that elitism. It is not locked away. With due democracy, real democracy is not in politics. Real democracies is in the evolution. And spiritual realization that the self is open to everybody. Anybody has tools. And I would say, don’t believe what I say, because belief is part of these were tokenize understanding go away. Do your homework. Think about things for yourself. Figure the map yourself, because everything works differently for each person. But if I can reach these thoughts — and anybody can.
Best of luck. Hello man, where can people find your work?
Google my name Kingsley Dennis, because best with the usual language comes pre-search engine Google You Dennis. I have a website www.KingsleyDennis.com. I have a lot of information that I have a link to, say, skipping the menu bar. I have maybe over 40 essays, all downloadable free reads that your browsing there. You have PDF downloads, income iBooks. If you enjoyed the material that I’m happy to make available.
Kingsley, thank you so much for being here. Your mentor, I really appreciated the book called “Struggled the Struggle”.
For your mind, this is the human experience and we are getting it out here.
Thank you. It’s a pleasure.